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04-25-2019, 06:45 AM
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Thanks guys.
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05-01-2019, 12:02 PM
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Nice job on the gauge install. They came out great.
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05-01-2019, 03:19 PM
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Thanks Wayne.
I had the windshield and back glass installed today. I finished making the driver's seat bracket. Been installing grounds, plumbing the fuel system, installing ignition box and coil, installing the parking brake setup, etc.
I've received some parts I'd been waiting on, so that should move things along. Ordered a TMI 1 piece headliner today from MCB. TMI is running 10-12 weeks out...looks like the first few drives will be without.
Daniel
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05-09-2019, 07:36 AM
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Installed the wiper motor. I went with a New Port wiper motor to gain some space...and I think they look better than the original.
Made a coil bracket and got that installed.
Also got the fuel lines run, fuel rail installed, Lokar parking brake cables installed/adjusted, AC lines crimped/installed, pedal covers installed, throttle bracket and cable installed. Oh, and had the windshield and back glass installed as well.
And not it's time for some wiring fun...
Wiring is not a strength of mine. Hopefully, I can stumble through it without too many hiccups.
Daniel
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05-09-2019, 02:14 PM
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Wiring isn't in my area of expertise either. You're doing great...then again I obviously have no idea what I'm talking about.
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06-08-2019, 09:41 AM
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Ignition wiring help needed
I've been working on the wiring and I'm stumped on getting the engine started. Tried to start for the first time a couple of weeks ago. The engine turns over nice- have oil pressure, fuel pressure, strong starter turnover- engine won't fire. Probed a few wires and called MSD. MSD had me check for 12v at the MSD green and violet wires that plug into my distributor- nothing. They said send it back to them. Sent it back, they tested the ignition box and coil- both tested good.
Reinstalled everything this morning, still no luck.
Here's what I'm working with:
MSD StreetFire ignition box (very similar to 6AL)
MSD Blaster SS coil
New Rebel Wiring harness
New ignition switch
New Ford solenoid mounted in trunk next to new AGM battery
The ignition switch pictured is currently setup like this:
BAT terminal- wired to red 12V IGN SW PWR wire
ACC terminal- wired to brown IGN SW ACC wire
SOL terminal- wired to purple IGN SW START & pink COIL wire (pink COIL wire runs to red MSD 12v switched source wire)
IGN terminal- wired to orange IGN SW IGN wire
KEY-, KEY+, and GRD terminals not used
**I have also tried the pink COIL wire piggybacked to the IGN terminal with the orange IGN SW IGN wire- no luck**
The "heavy" red MSD ignition box power lead is wired to the "I" post of the Ford solenoid and I verified 12v when cranking engine.
Sorry for the long post, but so far I have failed to get voltage to the Blaster coil while cranking.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Daniel
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06-08-2019, 11:38 AM
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It sounds like the MSD trigger wire (small red I believe) is not hooked to the ignition switch wire (12 volts when cranking). I would also think the BAT terminal on the switch should go to battery voltage off the fuse box (BAT fuse) or other 12 volts at all times source.
I would connect the red 12V IGN SW PWR wire to the trigger wire from the MSD box, and run a new 12 volt power from the bat fuse or battery to the ignition switch.
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06-08-2019, 07:26 PM
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I've been out all day and just now getting back to work on the car.
The red IGN SW PWR wire is currently connected to the BAT terminal on the ignition switch and I've verified it's constant 12v.
The pink COIL wire that's attached to the IGN terminal does get 12v when cranking. That pink COIL wire is what's connected to the MSD red trigger wire.
I just verified the pink COIL wire is sending 12v to the MSD box...**ACTUALLY- I've been using a test light to verify voltage, but I just put my meter on the pink COIL wire and I have 12v when I switch to ACC, but when cranking it drops to 11v. Could that be the issue??
I've occasionally been putting the battery on a Battery Tender after these cranking sessions. The current battery voltage is 12.54v.
Thought- do I need a ground wire connected to the GRD terminal on the ignition switch? The switch has not been installed in the metal dash, it's just loose on the floorboard and in my hand when cranking. I haven't connected the GRD terminal up to this point because the diagrams I've seen didn't have it connected.
Wiring sucks....
Daniel
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06-10-2019, 08:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DWC
I just verified the pink COIL wire is sending 12v to the MSD box...**ACTUALLY- I've been using a test light to verify voltage, but I just put my meter on the pink COIL wire and I have 12v when I switch to ACC, but when cranking it drops to 11v. Could that be the issue??
I've occasionally been putting the battery on a Battery Tender after these cranking sessions. The current battery voltage is 12.54v.
Daniel
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I’d be willing to bet it’s the voltage drop during cranking. I’d try a more substantial charging system than a trickle charger if you have access to one. My .02, I demon go a couple days before I figured out it was dude to lack of voltage under cranking.
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06-12-2019, 07:28 AM
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Fired up!
Finally, got the engine to fire yesterday. Not sure which of the two adjustments made a difference to the MSD box that got it working. I had the battery (in the trunk) grounded with 1/0 cable to the trunk pan with a through bolt. I added another run of 1/0 cable from the underside of the through bolt to the frame rail. I already had grounds from each head to the frame rails, frame rail to firewall, frame to core support, all with 1/0 cable. The second adjustment was leaving the battery on the battery tender overnight to get a full charge.
After these, I had spark...great. I tried starting the engine, it cranked strong a few times, but no start. Tried again, it "puffed" out of the carb. Tried again, it backfired out of the carb...it's 180 out. So, rotated the balancer to 0, pulled the distributor cap and, yep, 180 out. Fixed that, then she fired!
I can only run it for a few seconds because the AC compressor pulley isn't spinning for some reason. I don't have the Vintage Air controls hooked up yet, maybe that's the cause. I'll troubleshoot that next, then set the timing once I can let the engine run.
Thanks for everyone's help with the ignition troubleshooting.
Daniel
PS- I have a short startup video, but can't seem to get the wmv file to attach.
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