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[camcojb]

It's not a tailpipe issue Jonny. It's California's fixation with not allowing any visual mods either without an exemption order number on the part or a trip to a referee. I think if it passes at the pipe the hood doesn't even get opened, after all we are only concerned with the pollutants, right?

For example, you cannot move the location of the cats, or their number. My truck comes with 4 cats and to keep them in their factory location will be virtually impossible with a single turbo. If I re-locate them at all, even though I keep all of them it is illegal. That plus a turbo sitting where a blower came from the factory will cause "issues" with the visual portion. There may be a way around it hopefully. I have NO problem keeping all the smog equipment intact and functioning. Just give me a bit of leeway to package the parts.

Jody

[jonny51]

Yeah that is what I thought.That has to be one of the biggest BS law's out there(well maybe not).Even if you improve emmisions its still illegal if it does not pass visual.

[slow4dr]

Originally Posted by camcojb

There's been a few over 800 rwhp. I think the block will take more than that, the limit being getting the truck to hook. I know a few of these guys run nitrous as well and are making 900 to nearly 1000 rwtq with the 331 cid engine.

They all seem to use the factory crank which is supposed to be good for 1200+ HP. I also have Crower billet max-lite rods, custom CP blower pistons with Swain Tech coating, etc. Mine is made for big power but I'm at about 600 rwhp currently on 91 octane. That is with 100% stock exhaust due to noise and that this is a daily driver not a race car. I am installing a full exhaust today just to dyno and figure out how much I'm giving up power and torque wise. Then if it's significant like I think it is I'll try to quiet the exhaust.

I'm at 20 psi (street) with the KB blower.

Jody

Maybe we should take bets on how much you will gain by changing the exhaust. It is good to hear the block is that strong. I think a hybrid GT42R would be suffice for 1000RWHP and full spool by 3000 rpm.

Originally Posted by camcojb

It's not a tailpipe issue Jonny. It's California's fixation with not allowing any visual mods either without an exemption order number on the part or a trip to a referee. I think if it passes at the pipe the hood doesn't even get opened, after all we are only concerned with the pollutants, right?

For example, you cannot move the location of the cats, or their number. My truck comes with 4 cats and to keep them in their factory location will be virtually impossible with a single turbo. If I re-locate them at all, even though I keep all of them it is illegal. That plus a turbo sitting where a blower came from the factory will cause "issues" with the visual portion. There may be a way around it hopefully. I have NO problem keeping all the smog equipment intact and functioning. Just give me a bit of leeway to package the parts.
Jody

Hopefully Arnie will be able to influence some changes.

[camcojb]

Originally Posted by jonny51

Yeah that is what I thought.That has to be one of the biggest BS law out there.Even if you improve emmisions its still illegal if it does not pass visual.

Yep,

I remember in the early 80's Weber carbs came out with legal replacement carbs for the small cars and mini trucks. They wanted a California EO# so during testing it was found that they improved the emissions too much. They would not pass them! Seems you have to be a certain % either way (as compared to the factory carbs), and they were too clean at the tailpipe. There should be NO LIMIT on improving emissions period. Whatever pinhead came up with that restriction was a moron.

So Weber had to "dirty" up the carbs to pass. Absolutely mind-boggling how the bureaucrats can screw this smog deal up so bad.

Jody

[jonny51]

Yeah, it just goes to show you it's not all about a clean enviroment.I love how they blame chainsaw's,lawnmowers,weedwackers,dirt bikes,etc,etc for the smog problem.I think(know) its a bit deeper than that.Oh well I guess were stuck building the best detroit had to offer

[XcYZ]

I wish I could find it, but somewhere I had read about the pollution that the Space Shuttle dumps in the atmosphere on launch, and it was absolute insane amount.

[jonny51]

Yep its true,the shuttle does tons of damage to the enviroment.Not to mention what a forrest fire does.Sorry kinda getting off topic.

[BC69]

Smog? Whats smog? Just bring it to CT...we dont even have inspections. Well I think we do techincally, but after a 3 year break it will be another 5 before the get it right and actually do inspections!

Tim

[jonny51]

Yeah,but then you have to live in CT

[slow4dr]

Originally Posted by jonny51

Yeah,but then you have to live in CT

ROTFLMAO