View Full Version : New Foose 69 Camaro?
Teetoe_Jones
07-10-2005, 07:45 PM
I've already heard about the 69 Foose unvieled @ GoodGuys this last week, but did anyone get pics and or specs? I want to see this bad bitch.
Tyler
Kris Horton
07-10-2005, 10:58 PM
That's what I'm wondering. Looked pretty mild from the pics I saw on Unique's website, but that's only the exterior. I'm sure it'll be amazine, as most of Foose's work is.
Kris
c.schulz
07-11-2005, 05:15 AM
Anybody???
Steve Chryssos
07-11-2005, 05:26 AM
Sorry. Just a mental picture:
-Very subtle rocker extensions with Foose logo
-Custom lower front spoiler
-Custom RS grille treatment
-Trick door handles that move the pushbutton up to the handle itself
-No rear spoiler
-295 rear tires and (what else) Foose Design wheels
-The project is a collaboration with Year One, so it has the Y1 hood, although Joey at Unique says that they will probably redesign the hood. Foose was still scribling sketches on napkins even after the cars debut.
-Seats and door panels have GT40 style influences with rows of shiny rings in the inserts.
-The debut car has a 572 crate engine and six speed
-Comes with that wacky, head scratcher cantilever rear suspension (Upper and lower links are both located below the rear axle.)
-Prices will probably be north of 100K
The Unique guys are out there, right now, buying up every last 69 Camaro in existence. They claim to roll out 6-10 Eleanor clones per month.
tndude
07-11-2005, 08:15 AM
http://www.uniqueperformance.com/Camaro.aspx
907rs
07-11-2005, 08:31 AM
You're such a tease :D ........ A small pic of the front clip, the back of foose and Kevin Kings head?
Anyone have any more?
I dont know, from that one pictures...not a fan of the front grill or the hood and paint right there. Just my opinion and I may love it once I see the entire thing.
For those that saw it, did you like it?? Steve, you dont seem too excited about it from the explaination of it.
Tim
Musclerodz
07-11-2005, 09:51 AM
I am already not liking it. And from the sounds of it, I don't see it being a very balanced package. The 572 is rediculous, we already know the rear end sucks and waaay overpriced. The more I think about it, it kind of has the feel of a "Motion" Camaro. Ugly exteriors, BIG motors, garunteed performance, sticker shock, and probably collectible in 40 years.
Mike
jonny51
07-11-2005, 10:42 AM
I gotta agree with you guys that thing is fugly.Like most of the Foose stuff its crafted top knotch but a bit over the top for me.
I guess its more of a Rod thing.
Rick Dorion
07-11-2005, 10:50 AM
Would like to see some good pics but I must say I'm saddened that Unique is buying up all those cars.
Kris Horton
07-11-2005, 10:51 AM
Foose builds amazing hot rods, but there haven't been very many muscle cars that he's done that I've liked. It usually comes down to the wheel/tire choices and the stance. I think the Gambler 514 was ruined when they set it on those ugly over-sized wheels and didn't lower it more. Likewise with the Chevelle they did when the show first started. All of his work is absolutely top-notch, but when it comes to style, it doesn't always hit the mark. But that's with any designer or builder. I mean, the man has swept the past, what, 5 Ridler's?
Kris
TravisB
07-11-2005, 11:54 AM
I have noticed this also, his street rods are always right on in design, stlye, perfection.....etc! But his muscle cars are usually a little off in my opinion, maybe he is ahead of the game who knows.......He is still chip foose though and is on top of the car building world right now pretty much..IMO
I kinda liked the grill, at least from what I could see of it!
Steve1968LS2
07-11-2005, 01:46 PM
It is nice.. especially since it is not running a cowl hood or rear spoiler. They need to use the DSE wiper motor on the car rather than the stocker (on a car that expensive)..
I liked the rocker extensions.. I liked the lower front vallance. I was so-so on the graphics and I loved the color.
Foose said he will still be tweaking it and changing the dash and hood. I have pics and will try to post them later.
Steve
96z28ss
07-11-2005, 03:09 PM
They aren't just buying up every Mustang Fastback and 69 Camaro they are buying up Pontiac GTO's, Plymouth Cuda, they are also now started buying 70-72 camaro. They are going to ruin it for the small guy.
jonny51
07-11-2005, 05:14 PM
They aren't just buying up every Mustang Fastback and 69 Camaro they are buying up Pontiac GTO's, Plymouth Cuda, they are also now started buying 70-72 camaro. They are going to ruin it for the small guy.
There are plenty of cars still out there! :)
lil427z
07-11-2005, 10:05 PM
i have seen the camaro in person . looks good for a 69 camaro . :thumbsup:
rick k
MarkM66
07-12-2005, 07:11 AM
There are plenty of cars still out there! :)
I agree. I doubt they sell enough per year to make an impact. But I guess anything is possible.
JohnnyGMachine
07-12-2005, 09:28 AM
I don't know guys, it's definitely not fugly. It is maybe a little over the top but that's Chip Foose. I didn't see it in person but a couple guys I work with have and they said they went nuts over it. Plus I like to see people try something different. There's a lot of Pro-Touring and even wanna-be Pro-Touring custom Camaros out there, getting tougher to create something unique, so you gotta try crazy ideas and Chip is good at that. here's a side view that shows the car better from the unique performance site.
John
T Bell
07-12-2005, 10:22 AM
looks ok so far.
69MyWay
07-12-2005, 10:26 AM
Some how I missed this car at the GG Columbus show.
looks ok so far.
Your right it looks OK...but does it look 100K OK? Nahhh.
Keep it in the garage under an opaque tarp for 25 years and sell it for 500k as a rare collectors camaro...at that point no one cares about looks, only the rare car.
Tim
will69camaro
07-12-2005, 12:28 PM
There are many other 69 camaros i'd rather have...Mule, ExtremeG, Alumin8tor, etc..etc...The car is nice, and i like that it's different, i just think it's not worth the money. I'll be going to Unique to try and see something in person and get some pics. I only live 11 miles away :)
William
I'll be going to Unique to try and see something in person and get some pics. I only live 11 miles away
You're not back yet?!? :lolhit:
will69camaro
07-12-2005, 01:48 PM
I didn't realize it was that close till i looked up directions from my apt in lewisville. And i'm still at work..Might try and go today but maybe not till tomorrow. Hope i see something cool...
William
Oh yea i'll be taking my camaro :)
i'll be taking my camaro
Of course!
Steve1968LS2
07-12-2005, 04:20 PM
Some how I missed this car at the GG Columbus show.
It was hidden in a building, unveiled saturday at 7pm then at the Unique booth all day Sunday..
I missed lots of cars there.. forrest through the trees type of deal..
Steve1968LS2
07-12-2005, 04:22 PM
There are many other 69 camaros i'd rather have...Mule, ExtremeG, Alumin8tor, etc..etc...The car is nice, and i like that it's different, i just think it's not worth the money. I'll be going to Unique to try and see something in person and get some pics. I only live 11 miles away :)
William
Well you won't be buying the Mule or the Alumin8tor for $110k..
Remember that this is NOT the final product.. they say it is 95% done and they will be changing some stuff..
Lead time to get one is 6 to 8 months.. that is a bit shorter than having a car custom built.
I also heard there will be three levels, two small blocks and one 572 powered one. Can also be had with manual or auto trans. They will offer three color choices and if you want a custom color there will be an upcharge.
69MyWay
07-12-2005, 05:34 PM
I didn't stick around til Sat night to see that and we were on the road on Sunday.
These two super hot black camaros were the only ones I had seen outside if Unique along with a way wicked red one that was on popular hot rodding tv a while back for the feature on the Year One Bash.
will69camaro
07-13-2005, 05:43 AM
I dont doubt you can't get a hold of the mule or aluminator for 100K but for the price i think there are better camaros to be found and built...
William
Steve1968LS2
07-13-2005, 09:02 AM
I dont doubt you can't get a hold of the mule or aluminator for 100K but for the price i think there are better camaros to be found and built...
William
At this point I agree.. I will wait to see the final product and price to give my final answer..
Steve Chryssos
07-13-2005, 09:51 AM
I dont know, from that one pictures...not a fan of the front grill or the hood and paint right there. Just my opinion and I may love it once I see the entire thing.
For those that saw it, did you like it?? Steve, you dont seem too excited about it from the explaination of it.
Tim
No I like it. First of all it is a real PT car. It's not street rod-ish at all. The rocker extensions lower front valence are very subtle and tasteful. Stance/ride height is good--and realistic. Not too low. Single wide stripe is alternative--which I like. The custom grillework? I dunno. You either love it, hate it, or barely notice that it's different.
My only gripe is the rear suspension. I can't figure out HOW it works let alone decide if it's worth a damn.
As for the overall vehicle, remember that Unique tailored Foose's design for "semi-assembly line" production. So the 335's in the drawing became 295's, the ride height increased, etc. And the money? The cars will have aftermarket front and rear clips, full custom interiors, all new drivetrain, good brakes, etc. Will they be sold at premium plus? Sure, but the hardware still adds up.
I'm sure Unique's target customer (not us) will think they are getting a deal.
In the end, ya had to see it in person.
will69camaro
07-22-2005, 05:57 AM
Well the girlfriend and I went down to Unique yesterday and will return for pics of the camaro next tuesday (shop was shut down for the day and no pics without the peoples consent). Monday there are 3 magazine photoshoots of the car. In their shop there was atleast 10 GT500E's and 3-4 GT350SR's. They also had a 911 that was just parked (presidents car that he hasn't driven in years), a DB9 which the presidents wife got trading a car behind his back LOL, a 69 Shelby (original) 56 big window chevy pickup, a 69 "test mule" where they test all their new stuff, a shelby cobra (not sure if it's a kit or real, i think it's a kit, barret jackson jr's own 69 convertible camaro, and a 68 camaro with a chassis engineering front clip with a supercharged LS2, baer brakes, their "exotic" rear suspension, the works. It was alot of fun to go check out the stuff and talk with the owner. Definitly worth checking out. They also had a Foose designed 05 stang that is going to see a 3000 car production run and be sold in dealerships (looked bad ass). The camaro run is going to be kept limited production (I believe i heard 250 cars). Also pricing on the camaro starts at 139k, that's with a ZZ4 basic buildup. From there you can option it with a LS2 with an optional supercharger on that. For the even more extreme there is the car built like the one that was unveiled, 189k is what i heard and it's a 572 fuel injected 650hp motor. Colors wont all be orange and grey they're looking into other colors. I'm going to try and get them to consider marquez tail lights as it looks funny to see a car with all this custom work (that looks alot better in person but not my favorite first gen i've seen by far) then walk back and see these old style tail lights. I think the modern style lights would set that car off.
Anyway if there is anything else you guys want to know there is more i'm sure i'm forgetting. Also like i said no pics for now but hopefully next week if i can get off work and get there in time.
William
96z28ss
07-22-2005, 09:40 AM
Well the girlfriend and I went down to Unique yesterday and will return for pics of the camaro next tuesday (shop was shut down for the day and no pics without the peoples consent). Monday there are 3 magazine photoshoots of the car. In their shop there was atleast 10 GT500E's and 3-4 GT350SR's. They also had a 911 that was just parked (presidents car that he hasn't driven in years), a DB9 which the presidents wife got trading a car behind his back LOL, a 69 Shelby (original) 56 big window chevy pickup, a 69 "test mule" where they test all their new stuff, a shelby cobra (not sure if it's a kit or real, i think it's a kit, barret jackson jr's own 69 convertible camaro, and a 68 camaro with a chassis engineering front clip with a supercharged LS2, baer brakes, their "exotic" rear suspension, the works. It was alot of fun to go check out the stuff and talk with the owner. Definitly worth checking out. They also had a Foose designed 05 stang that is going to see a 3000 car production run and be sold in dealerships (looked bad ass). The camaro run is going to be kept limited production (I believe i heard 250 cars). Also pricing on the camaro starts at 139k, that's with a ZZ4 basic buildup. From there you can option it with a LS2 with an optional supercharger on that. For the even more extreme there is the car built like the one that was unveiled, 189k is what i heard and it's a 572 fuel injected 650hp motor. Colors wont all be orange and grey they're looking into other colors. I'm going to try and get them to consider marquez tail lights as it looks funny to see a car with all this custom work (that looks alot better in person but not my favorite first gen i've seen by far) then walk back and see these old style tail lights. I think the modern style lights would set that car off.
Anyway if there is anything else you guys want to know there is more i'm sure i'm forgetting. Also like i said no pics for now but hopefully next week if i can get off work and get there in time.
William
$189k thats crazy!!
Todds69
07-22-2005, 11:03 AM
OUCH.....Crack smokers they are mmmm...
Kris Horton
07-22-2005, 11:29 AM
I have some decent pics of it that I will try to post this evening. I have a tremendous amount of respect for Foose and Unique, but their Camaro is a big yawn. I was expecting a lot more from them and was pretty disappointed in what I saw. I didn't see it in person, but the person who sent me the pics went over it very slowly and looked at everything. He said it was nicely done, but the car was far from impressive.
Kris
will69camaro
07-22-2005, 11:30 AM
My feelings exactly...Parts add up and they need to get their cut but 190k is a bit too much lol. Now i know this was discussed earlier but what would the mule bring? Is that more in the ballpark than 100k?
William
Stuart Adams
07-22-2005, 12:50 PM
A close source said the car was rough, and they were shocked that Foose was involved with what they felt as way below his normal standards.
Kris Horton
07-22-2005, 01:25 PM
Better still, when my friend went up to Chip and asked him to see under the hood, they walked to the front of the car and they couldn't find the hood release. Turns out that unveiling was the first time he had even seen the completed car...
Again, what a bummer.
Kris
Steve1968LS2
07-22-2005, 05:07 PM
A close source said the car was rough, and they were shocked that Foose was involved with what they felt as way below his normal standards.
I don't know that I would call it rough.. Chip told me the car is about 95% of what he wants and they will still be changing a few things.. like the hood shape and guage cluster.
The lower front facia and lover rocker extensions were SWEET.. I don't know if I can ever get used to the car with no rear spoiler but it looked ok..
What it needs..
The complete Marquez billet set-up.. somebody from that company needs to contact Unique..
A DSE wiper motor to replace the crappy looking stock one.. hell, with the big block you can't even pull a valve cover without pulling the wiper motor..
Nicer firewall and inner fenders.. fill in the divits in the inner fenders and smooth the firewall better..
The parts on the car are very nice.. just needs more TLC on the install.. maybe they should hire me :)
I didn't even realize that Ricks Hot Rods made a stainless tank for the car.. I didn't crawl under it.
I look at that car and I look at my old 69.. my engine bay was nicer.. my paint was pretty close and my interior was about as nice if not a little better.. Fooses car had a nicer undercarriage and a more expensive motor..
My car $60k and his $120k... hmmmm
Then again my car does not have the Name FOOSE attached to it.. and mine took almost 2 years. I used to think the Elenore cars were overpriced at $190k but since they sold out I guess I was wrong.
Also, I heard the price will be close to $100k and not $200k...
The Foose overhauling green Mustang failed to get a $75k bid on Ebay..
again.. hmmmmmmmmm
race-rodz
07-22-2005, 06:33 PM
im sorry... i dont care who's name is on it....its still a 69 camaro.... and NO 69 camaro is worth 200K..... unless the trunk is filled with gold...diamonds, or cash.
i think the mule is one of the nicest around.... and no way its worth that much......except maybe in barret jackson land
jonny51
07-22-2005, 07:37 PM
im sorry... i dont care who's name is on it....its still a 69 camaro.... and NO 69 camaro is worth 200K..... unless the trunk is filled with gold...diamonds, or cash.
i think the mule is one of the nicest around.... and no way its worth that much......except maybe in barret jackson land
ZL1 :D
race-rodz
07-22-2005, 07:40 PM
doh...... i forgot about that....... ok.... so maybe a few are worth the same as a fixer-upper in the ghetto
Steve1968LS2
07-22-2005, 09:11 PM
im sorry... i dont care who's name is on it....its still a 69 camaro.... and NO 69 camaro is worth 200K..... unless the trunk is filled with gold...diamonds, or cash.
i think the mule is one of the nicest around.... and no way its worth that much......except maybe in barret jackson land
Yea, keep in mind that Stuart Adams yellow '69 sold for lots of money and the mule is somewhat more famose.. I would not be surprised if it brought well over that amount..
But that is besides the point.. And again, I did not hear that it was going to cost that much.. then again I discussed a ton of stuff with the Unique guys at Good Guys so maybe I am just getting old.
I will call them on Monday and get a better idea on price.. I thought base models under $100k with the nicer 572 model being $120k or so.. its sorta fuzzy..
race-rodz
07-22-2005, 11:55 PM
im actually somewhat speechless...... i didnt realize the "famous" cars were bringin that kinda coin. but then again... a new truck fully loaded is pushing 60K+....so i guess im not all that shocked.
jonny51
07-23-2005, 12:36 AM
Another picture I found---
http://www.good-guys.com/news/ggNewsDetail.aspx?ID=431
vanzuuk1
07-23-2005, 03:40 AM
One thing I cant stand is the wording in the article. The way they describe the project makes it sound like the next enzo. So far the car is nice but its not going to turn the automotive hobby upside down. Chip seems like a good guy, but the car could have been a little more radical looking.Maybe I will like it more as I see additional photos.
As always, I can nit pick the car but if I got it as a xmas present I would be pretty happy.
Kris Horton
07-23-2005, 02:46 PM
Here are the pics I have...
Kris
Derek69SS
07-23-2005, 03:53 PM
Other than the grille [and the price-tag] it's not too bad. Personally, I think most of Foose's designs are a little "over the top" for my tastes, but there are very few cars out there I wouldn't change something on... including my own :D
clill
07-23-2005, 06:03 PM
Is there just one breather on that engine ?
Stuart Adams
07-23-2005, 06:33 PM
Only appears to have one breather, huh. I hope no one was offended when I said I heard the car was a little rough for Foose standards. On the projects that he has total control he is awesome. He is probably being pulled in so many directions and being offered big money for his name that he can't possibly be in total control of all projects going. Personally, I think Foose doing a 69 camaro is cool. It brings publicity to these cars.
Musclerodz
07-23-2005, 08:15 PM
The grill isn't bad, it is just the way it is painted. Besides the billet center with the two overlay bars, it looks stock. If you paint it back like it is suppose to be, it would probably look ok.
If the price of these things are low 100's, they will sell. What makes the Elanor clones is they carry a Shelby vin number. Camaros won't have that luxury.
Mike
DCreations
07-23-2005, 08:47 PM
I really like everything about the car. :thumbsup: I was expecting it to be like the next riddler, but it's still cool.
tndude
07-24-2005, 08:25 PM
While the Camaro is very nice I think we are missing something. If Chip Foose is suppose to be the “Man” and he certainly is very talented and makes unbelievable cars……we have some members here that can give him a run for his money.
We should be proud. :thumbsup:
Derek69SS
07-24-2005, 09:42 PM
Personally, I think Foose doing a 69 camaro is cool. It brings publicity to these cars. Yeah, because '69 Camaros have gone un-noticed for years :lolhit: :D :D
evilzee28
07-25-2005, 04:32 AM
If you look at Kris' pic of the engine, the radiator still has a bar code sticker on it. Not only that but the Griffin radiator sticker isn't even on straight, details, details, details, oh & the tyre tread was dirty on the side shot. lol :)
To be honest it's probably a nice bit of kit, but because it has the Foose name attached people think it's the be all & end all, I'm sure that if the "name" wasn't attached to the car, the likes of Mark Steilows or Jodys' car would put it to shame, as would some of you other guys on this web site. :hail:
will69camaro
07-25-2005, 07:03 AM
Call Unique if you want but i spoke with the president of the company so my prices i'm sure are accurate. The car might have seemed rough but they also told me of the difficulty they had getting the car ready and to the goodguys show. Is the car worth as much as they're asking? No. Could you build a car for less that is better? Easily. Will they sell every one they make without a problem? Definitly. These cars are trendy, rich people will be jump at the opportunity to own the car carrying the foose name and badging.
William
JohnnyGMachine
07-25-2005, 09:24 AM
It's really hard for me to say anything positive or negative about it without seeing it first hand. From the pics I've seen on the Unique webpage and the ones Kris posted (thanks Kris) is that it's pretty cool but I agree, not 100k+ cool. Someone will pay whatever for because of Chip working on it. I think for 100K I'd rather have one of those nasty Super Snake Mustang fastbacks that Unique builds. In my opinion, not that I'm biased (...ok maybe a little) but I think once Tyler's 50/50 is completed, I think styling-wise it will raise the bar above that '69. It's ultra radical, it's gonna be killer fast, and I think for those building over-the-top Camaros this one will set the standard. I also think the regular guy may not want to drive something like that and the guys that like the classic "stock" looks of a Camaro won't get it but it'll be innovative for sure.
My initial reactions to first seeing the Foose 1969 Camaro - Pretty wicked! I'm a big fan of Foose. I like the paint scheme, and the Carbon. The extensions look like they are lower than the front of the car - if that's the case then I don't like that then. They look a little too add-on but not bad. I like the wheels. I think seeing it without a rear wing looks kinda cool-different. I'd like to see the interior. Hopefully it'll be out at the NSRA nats in Kentucky then I can take a looky. I still have yet to meet Chip and would like to very much. I'd like to flash a couple of my sketches past him to see what he thinks.
Anyways, this post got longer than I meant it to. I think all in all it's a pretty cool Camaro.
John
I think there are two different angles that we have to look at the car. You guys are all extremely knowledgable about true "g-machines", and judge the car on those qualities.
But who is buying these cars??? Why did people buy Eleanor? For its capabilites, or its looks? I may be making a generalization, but dont you think most people will buy the car purerly for looks? That is where I think the car lacks, from responses you have given I get the impression it is a true pro-touring car...but from a buyers standpoint...the Eleanor has the flash and look that makes money. I dont think this 69 does.
But we all have our opinions
Tim
Smack_talker
07-28-2005, 01:18 PM
Yeah, because '69 Camaros have gone un-noticed for years :lolhit: :D :D
I was thinking the same thing..all this will do is drive up the prices on 69 Camaros. It's the BJS (Barrett-Jackson Syndrom) every body with a beater 69 Camaro will think its worth $20,000. :yes: Its not bad i guess if you already own a 69 Maro.
Steve1968LS2
07-28-2005, 01:53 PM
While the Camaro is very nice I think we are missing something. If Chip Foose is suppose to be the “Man” and he certainly is very talented and makes unbelievable cars……we have some members here that can give him a run for his money.
We should be proud. :thumbsup:
Keep in mind this is NOT a Chip Foose BUILT car.. just a Foose designed car for a production line enviroment..
Not many on here will be winning Riddlers any time soon :)
As for this Camaro I would say several on here are nicer but this one can be ordered over the phone and delivered in 8 months.. The demographics for this car are rich people that don't know much about cars but want a cool musclecar that they can impress thier friends with.. the Foose name on it just adds to the "exclusivity"..
When you look at the car for what it is then it is a pretty nice car. My 69 could have beat this car at a show but my name is worth about a nickle and Fooses is worth about $50k ;)
JohnnyGMachine
07-28-2005, 02:07 PM
I think we should be happy that Pro-Touring build style cars are being made more common by companies like Unique Performance for building their turnkeys. Yeah there's PT Camaros that are nicer, but I think it's a great thing for the Pro-Touring movement that guys like Foose and Unique Performance are building these cars. It'll only get more press for this build style. C'mon let's not slam it, let's appreciate it for what it is and applaud these guys for helping to make Pro-Touring more mainstream to the masses who have never heard of it.
John
hotwheels
07-28-2005, 04:52 PM
just thumbing through that site, they have some sick car's.......wow
Musclerodz
08-14-2005, 11:11 PM
Pic I just found on PT.com. $100K+ and you can't go over a speed bump let alone drive it on most roads with that kind of ground clearance.
Mike
http://www.uniqueperformance.com/images/camaro5.jpg
jonny51
08-14-2005, 11:34 PM
Looks pretty nice form the rear(like some girls I know :unibrow: )But for 100k+ you sure can do lots of things.There is a market for it,im sure they did there research didn't they?
zbugger
08-15-2005, 12:11 AM
Pic I just found on PT.com. $100K+ and you can't go over a speed bump let alone drive it on most roads with that kind of ground clearance.]
I can't really say that. From the rear, it may look like it can't. From the side, I think it's just the headers that are low. Even with that, you can kinda go sideways with it.
kmracer
08-21-2005, 01:11 AM
great, just what we need, now camaros are going to be even MORE overpriced and unattainable to the average guy. its going to be just like the elonore mustangs, every time i see one i have to shake my head. its nice to see something FRESH, and thats what the firs one is, but, it ends after that. might as well leave it stock in my eyes.
Reckley
08-23-2005, 12:08 PM
The car looks great from the rear. I really like the exhaust cut into into the rear panel. I think anything north of $100k is crazy. Has anyone thought of building cars similar to this in a simpler version for say $50K to $75K? I'm thinking of a clean car with some production type or standard components.
Steve1968LS2
08-23-2005, 04:05 PM
Remember that the Foose name attached to it add quite bit to the value.. It is just the way it is..
The body/paint work on the car looked very good and with the custom touches you would be hard pressed to have one built for yourself for less than $100k by any known shop. I imagine the ZZ572 and custom Hogan intake is almost $20k alone.
Would I pay it? Maybe if I was Bill Gates rich but then again we are car guys that know what we are doing.. this car is more marketed tword wealthy people with lots of disposable income and want to be the new "bitchen guy on the block" when he rolls up in his instant gratification Foose car...
It's not a bad thing.. the rich deserve to drive musclecars as well :)
Johnny will be shooting the Foose car and the GT350 car soon (together).. Between the two I would rather have the GT350.. that thing is COOL..
Musclerodz
08-23-2005, 08:14 PM
Would I pay it? Maybe if I was Bill Gates rich but then again we are car guys that know what we are doing.. .
If I was Bill Gates rich, I would not be buying a Unique Car. I would OWN Unique and build them right and would not care if I lost a few grand or ten per car. Everybody needs a write off.
Mike
Smack_talker
08-24-2005, 11:24 AM
If I was Bill Gates rich, I would not be buying a Unique Car. I would OWN Unique and build them right and would not care if I lost a few grand or ten per car. Everybody needs a write off.
Mike
If I was Bill Gates rich, I would have a "one off" car done by Troy or Kyle or maybe even Boyd. There are a few guys here that can do work just as nice as Foose. :thumbsup:
clill
08-26-2005, 10:01 PM
Notice the cylinder that replaced the hood spring.
evilzee28
08-27-2005, 02:08 AM
I didn't stick around til Sat night to see that and we were on the road on Sunday.
These two super hot black camaros were the only ones I had seen outside if Unique along with a way wicked red one that was on popular hot rodding tv a while back for the feature on the Year One Bash.
Do you have any more pics of the black Camaros ?? appreciate it if you could post them :thumbsup:
clill
08-27-2005, 05:43 AM
forgot to post the cylinder pic
camcojb
08-27-2005, 07:24 AM
What I like about that cylinder Charley is it gets the stress off the hinge area of the hood. The factory springs and the other guys who've put those struts on put them in the stock spring location; after time it bends the hood where the two bolts go into the hood from the hinge. This looks like it wouldn't do that.
Jody
Hmmm, that is simple and slick....
camcojb
08-27-2005, 08:23 AM
I like the taillights too! :D
Jody
Our First Gen Camaro club here in Dallas has a tour set up with Unique in October. We then run our fall cruise from there.
I'll let you know how this thing looks up close! :thumbsup:
www.northtxcamaros.com
Kel
The tail lights go without saying. :D The front marker lights are next...
will69camaro
08-27-2005, 02:29 PM
Glad to see they finally were able to get those tail lights. They told me they were trying to get in contact with them. Looks pretty good in person i think. Overpriced but still nice.
William
Musclerodz
08-27-2005, 03:07 PM
Looks like a 4th gen hood strut. If I was paying $100K+ for one, the paint under the hood better be polished too. The second hood dtrut pic the orange looks like base only like some new factory cars do. Did they remove the original trim tag plate when they installed the Unique plate?
Mike
camcojb
08-27-2005, 03:50 PM
Glad to see they finally were able to get those tail lights. They told me they were trying to get in contact with them. Looks pretty good in person i think. Overpriced but still nice.
William
They are virtually impossible to get ahold of. We play phone tag every time.
Jody
Steve1968LS2
08-27-2005, 05:32 PM
The tail lights go without saying. :D The front marker lights are next...
Im glad they got the tail lights on and the DSE stuff done before we shot it next month for the magazine :)
I will make sure the writer mentions where the tail lights came from.. lol..
Sort of an insult to Covans huh?
camcojb
08-27-2005, 05:59 PM
Im glad they got the tail lights on and the DSE stuff done before we shot it next month for the magazine :)
I will make sure the writer mentions where the tail lights came from.. lol..
Sort of an insult to Covans huh?
Thanks Steve. You're a good guy to have on our side!:yes:
Jody
clill
08-27-2005, 07:02 PM
I'm thinkin Steve is going to need to do a long term test of the 68 tail lights. :yes:
camcojb
08-27-2005, 07:13 PM
I'm thinkin Steve is going to need to do a long term test of the 68 tail lights. :yes:
Steve and Frank at Prodigy are both getting a set as soon as they are done. HINT HINT!
Jody
clill
08-27-2005, 07:24 PM
I'l kick him some more......I think he worked most of today on it.
camcojb
08-27-2005, 07:45 PM
I'l kick him some more......I think he worked most of today on it.
Thanks Charley! :thumbsup:
Jody
rwhite692
08-27-2005, 08:01 PM
I also took a few snaps:
https://home.comcast.net/~chevyrob/00.jpg
rwhite692
08-27-2005, 08:04 PM
Here are a few more:
https://home.comcast.net/~chevyrob/24.jpg
rwhite692
08-27-2005, 08:07 PM
And a few more....https://home.comcast.net/~chevyrob/20.jpg
rwhite692
08-27-2005, 08:14 PM
And here are the last of them....That manifold sure is a thing of beauty.
https://home.comcast.net/~chevyrob/04.jpg
Musclerodz
08-27-2005, 09:23 PM
The rear down tube on the roll bar is all wrong. Also, I am kind of suprised it doesn't have power brakes to stop that monster either. I think I will steal the hood strut design though. What on this car sets it apart from any of the others being built besides the names of Unique and Foose. Looks like a bunch of bolt-ons to me, nuthin "unique" about it.
Mike
rwhite692
08-27-2005, 10:57 PM
Yes, that brake setup (no power assist) is pretty minimal considering the HP in the car...
The gas cylinders on the hood hinges are a nice touch, I don't think they would be enough to lift anything other than a fiberglass hood, tho (?)
The front grille (though I don't like it) has some real work in it.
I noted the same thing about the rear downbar...not good, what's it doing so far down there?... They also for some strange reason painted the tubes with crinkle/texture paint of some sort which didn't look too good (IMO). I did like the outside door handles, and the seat upholstery (Ford GT-40-ish w/grommets) looks pretty neat, though I don't know if I like it on the door panels...
I did notice that they switched to a DSE wiper motor, and as Jody noted they have Pasqual's RS tail light trim/lenses on there.:thumbsup:
When you look at the car, you do get the impression that it was built in a hurry, there is that "sameness" of Foose characteristics to it. $125K? Not worth it even to those who could afford it, IMO.
evilzee28
08-28-2005, 03:41 AM
I also took a few snaps:
Sorry, but I don't like it !! :thmbsdwn: If you look closely at the pictures you can see a shed load of things going on. The down tubes on the roll bar, as mentioned, has no forethought in it at all, one nasty looking bend in it & it doesn't follow the roof line, plus it's too far down the main hoop, it should be like the Autkoraft one whiich looks like it was meant to be there.The textured finish looks like it's covering an old scaffolding tube instead of roll cage tubing. Under the door handle it looks as if the gasket is coming out & what is going on in the shot of the cowl vent????has the screw & washer been put in the wrong place, it looks as if it's missed the locating hole completely? Surely something neater coulda been used instead of a self tapping screw & a washer. On the pic of the engine, is that a load of jubilee clips holding some pipes together down by the heater box or is it something else? As to the dash, that looks plain ugly with the knob/switch just sticking out there, no attention to details. I know it's easy to criticise, but for the asking price it should be beyond reproach. It just makes me wonder about the quality/standard of the rest of the car.
When looking at the pics on the web site of the members cars, they all look far better than this with a lot of care & attention to detail put into them. I guess it's because they're your pride & joy whereas this is just a profit making excercise. :eek:
Well, it does say prototype on the Unique trim tag. Maybe they put this car out there for us to tell them what to change/not change before they go into production.
One thing that really jumps out at me (besides what's been said already), is the use of the stock valve covers. Sure, it's an awesome motor, but I can't imagine paying $125k for a car that has stock valve covers. I'd expect to see some kick ass Foose designed sheetmetal valve covers that would flow with the Hogan's intake. Chip, are you out there? :D
Overall, it's a nice car, and one that I can see would be easy to mass produce.
Steve Chryssos
08-28-2005, 06:58 AM
Maybe I missed it, but where/when were these pics taken?
/Steevo
camcojb
08-28-2005, 08:56 AM
Maybe I missed it, but where/when were these pics taken?
/Steevo
Pleasanton, this weekend.
Jody
rwhite692
08-28-2005, 09:15 AM
Ya I took them yesterday, I was surprised to see them at Pleasanton...the show itself was pre-55 only so most of the "manufacturer's midway" stuff was all street rod oriented...
Scott I was thinking the same thing about the valve covers...I think they were kept on for the "572" wow factor...a lot of people were drawn to the engine mumbling "572...572..." like a scene from dawn of the dead.
The car certainly did get a lot of attention.
evilzee28
08-28-2005, 09:38 AM
Well, it does say prototype on the Unique trim tag. Maybe they put this car out there for us to tell them what to change/not change before they go into production.
One thing that really jumps out at me (besides what's been said already), is the use of the stock valve covers. Sure, it's an awesome motor, but I can't imagine paying $125k for a car that has stock valve covers. I'd expect to see some kick ass Foose designed sheetmetal valve covers that would flow with the Hogan's intake. Chip, are you out there? :D
Overall, it's a nice car, and one that I can see would be easy to mass produce.
Hi Scott, you could be right, but surely, prototype or not, they really should make sure the details are right before showing it officially to the public. You don't see Foose, Coddington etc putting out a prototype before entering a car for the Riddler award etc.It's the real deal straight outta the box! Plus the car really is just a relatively stock body with bolt on items, not something like the Alumatub that had everything hand fabricated.This isn't rocket science, it's bolt tab A to tab B. Maybe I'm being harsh here, but these guys want to charge a LOT of money for this product, they've done their homework as to the clientelle that'll buy one & it certainly isn't any guys from the G-Machine movement,it's for the rich pretenders. There's no excuses in my book for putting something in the public domain to judge reaction if it isn't right.You only get one chance to make a good impression!!
As to the rocker covers, IMO, there's no reason why they should keep the factory ones just 'cos they say "572". I'm sure Foose could design & manufacture some good looking covers with "572" on them, is it penny pinching?
If it didn't have the name Foose attached to it, no-one would touch it at that money.
Ok I'm getting off my soap box & getting my coat lol.
rwhite692
08-29-2005, 10:51 AM
I think part of the reasoning behind the valve covers may be to keep the engine LOOKING like what it is (a GMPP crate engine). Might be part of some sort of agreement between GMPP/Yr 1/Foose.
Rybar
08-29-2005, 11:09 AM
I still think this car needs a rear spoiler and the grille needs to be painted body color.
I don't think it's worth the $$$, but that's why were all building our own cars, so we can make them the way we like them. I do really like the Unique "Eleanor" mustangs, but those have a status symbol of being famous from the movie, this car has Foose's name attached to it. Interesting to see what happens....
Steve1968LS2
08-29-2005, 01:08 PM
The rear down tube on the roll bar is all wrong. Also, I am kind of suprised it doesn't have power brakes to stop that monster either. I think I will steal the hood strut design though. What on this car sets it apart from any of the others being built besides the names of Unique and Foose. Looks like a bunch of bolt-ons to me, nuthin "unique" about it.
Mike
Well, the front valance and side skirts are "unique" ;) same with the rear valance..
I didn't (and won't) have power brakes.. car stops fine..
Other than that, I agree..
Steve1968LS2
08-29-2005, 01:14 PM
I'm thinkin Steve is going to need to do a long term test of the 68 tail lights. :yes:
:thumbsup:
But I would be happy to pay for these parts.. they are just so freakin sweet.. :hail:
The car looks 100% better than it did at Columbus good guys (where I pointed out the lameness of the windshield wiper motor to the lead guy)..
I am glad the Covans dash is gone on such and expensive car and I am really glad they have the Marques lights (did they add the side marker ones also?)
I want to see the car with the magnacharged LS2..
Steve1968LS2
08-29-2005, 01:16 PM
Steve and Frank at Prodigy are both getting a set as soon as they are done. HINT HINT!
Jody
:woot:
rwhite692
08-29-2005, 01:54 PM
I didn't (and won't) have power brakes.. car stops fine
I hear you...I used to think my other car (wilwoods up front and big drums in back) without power assist... stopped just fine....and it did, relative to most other 60's cars...the problem was more with regard to the RELATIVE stopping capability that every other present-day modern car with ABS brakes out on the freeway has, in comparison.
I used to have to be extremely conservative with my following distance on the freeway (not easy, since when you back way off of the car in front of you, in pops another car to fill the void!)
On my present car, the C5 stuff does a great job, but the addition of the hydroboost unit was just unreal. It's like "nitrous for your brakes!"...I found it to be a worthwhile addition mostly for the "real world driving" concern noted above. Many others who rarely drive on freeways (esp ones like our CA freeways!) may not need the extra peace of mind. Just my $.02 -Rob
Musclerodz
08-29-2005, 02:47 PM
Yeah the rockers are a Foose thing. i have seen him do that to several cars. I don't see anything different about the rear except for the addition of the lights and the exhaust cutouts. The front looks the same to me except for the wide bars he put in the grill, which still needs to be painted body color to look right. Am I missing something I haven't seen?
Mike
rwhite692
08-29-2005, 03:05 PM
Mike I was looking at the front lower valence panel, the parking light holes have been re-done (the lip around them looks somewhat "fatter" and the holes themselves smaller) and also the chin spoiler looks to be a fabricated piece that is mounted a bit more forward of the usual location and it is therefore contoured to the shape of the lower valence...tough to explain...in short, it looks like some work was done there but you really don't notice it too much, I'm not sure that it looks any better than the GM chin spoiler..(IMHO)...
Steve1968LS2
08-29-2005, 03:51 PM
Yeah the rockers are a Foose thing. i have seen him do that to several cars. I don't see anything different about the rear except for the addition of the lights and the exhaust cutouts. The front looks the same to me except for the wide bars he put in the grill, which still needs to be painted body color to look right. Am I missing something I haven't seen?
Mike
I thought the whole lower front valance was a foose deal.. with the driving lights and all ..
Like I said.. car looks better now than at Columbus and hopefully it will keep evolving till the final product..
DRJDVM's '69
08-29-2005, 05:11 PM
Hate the paint scheme...... when I first saw the pix, my first impression was that they hadnt finnished painting it yet !!!! It has random panels that are different colors and it makes it look like they are trial fitting parts. Not to mention that the blue pinstrip reminds me of 3M paint masking tape.....
I also hate the "rings" in the upholstery.....
The custom panel work on the valance and rockers is nice and the door handles rock........
Decent car but I can name at least 8-10 on here alone that surpasss this car.
rwhite692
08-29-2005, 10:48 PM
Hey Ned
I think those door handles may actually be circa 1940 plymouth? Not sure. I will have to ask some of my geezer street rod buddies...
I hated the paint scheme also. I did think the GT-40 style upholstery w/grommets was kinda neat and different, tho not something I'd do.
I suppose that the grommets might help to ventilate emissions that may be discharged shortly after a quick stop at the taco stand...
68protouring454
08-30-2005, 04:11 AM
i think there website says the door handles came off a jaguar.
also does anyone have any good shots of the rocker extensions?? how much lower where they than stock rocker panel?? and how wwere they attached??
jake
Musclerodz
08-30-2005, 12:58 PM
i think there website says the door handles came off a jaguar.
also does anyone have any good shots of the rocker extensions?? how much lower where they than stock rocker panel?? and how wwere they attached??
jake
From the way i have seen Foose make them for other cars, the extend down and cover up the rocker pinch weld which is about 3/4". Maybe a 90* fold and spot weld to the back side out of site.
Mike
68protouring454
08-30-2005, 03:45 PM
where does he attach?? weld onto existing rocker just below door?? also how does he go up under fender with rocker ext?? would love to see some close ups of the unique cars
jake
Musclerodz
08-30-2005, 08:13 PM
I am sure it is a whole new outer rocker. Not difficult to make and most need work or replaced anyway.
Mike
socaldodger
09-01-2005, 05:10 PM
Does anyone know what model this in-dash unit is?
https://home.comcast.net/~chevyrob/00.jpg
Shovelhead
02-05-2006, 11:13 AM
The dash is a custom Carbon Fiber made for this car. It may be available to the public by now thru Year One, I'm not for sure.
Tim Baillie
02-05-2006, 01:13 PM
[QUOTE=socaldodger]Does anyone know what model this in-dash unit is?
If you mean the radio, it's either a 7017 or a 8017 by Kenwood. Build in screen and DVD.
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