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jocko124
05-09-2011, 10:59 PM
I'm finally going to pull the trigger on a T-56 Magnum for my 66 Cutlass (455 Olds Engine). Where is the best place to purchase one?

Tom.A
05-09-2011, 11:20 PM
I would use Hurst Driveline unless you can find a discount code for Summit Racing

canrc
05-09-2011, 11:23 PM
x2 on Hurst Drivelines

Great service got mine exactly when promised.

jocko124
05-09-2011, 11:32 PM
I would use Hurst Driveline unless you can find a discount code for Summit Racing

That's a great idea. Now I just gotta figure out where 2 get a Summit discount code.

wmhjr
05-10-2011, 07:14 AM
Often the discount codes will not work for items such as the T56 Magnum. I'd check around to see what the delta will be in total cost once it's all done so you make sure you don't end up paying the least amount for the tranny but end up getting nickle and dimed to death along with any support issues. Personally I'd stick with Hurst Driveline but that's just me.

fesler
05-10-2011, 08:07 AM
Call us up we have pretty good deals on them. Ask for Rob 480-748-2000

jocko124
05-10-2011, 09:21 AM
Often the discount codes will not work for items such as the T56 Magnum. I'd check around to see what the delta will be in total cost once it's all done so you make sure you don't end up paying the least amount for the tranny but end up getting nickle and dimed to death along with any support issues. Personally I'd stick with Hurst Driveline but that's just me.

I agree Bill. I just wanted to make sure there isn't a less expensive option I'm overlooking before pulling the trigger.

jocko124
05-10-2011, 09:21 AM
Call us up we have pretty good deals on them. Ask for Rob 480-748-2000

Thanks Chris. I'll give Rob a call.

The WidowMaker
05-10-2011, 09:25 AM
got mine from summit with the 10% code. i had the tko kit so i didnt need all the small parts and i didnt want a kit clutch anyways.

jocko124
05-10-2011, 09:53 AM
I know Hurst extends the warranty on the T-56 Mag by a year. In a street application, is that worth anything? I really have not heard of any issues with this trans---at least not that I've seen anywhere on here or pro-touring.com.

captainofiron
05-31-2011, 09:05 AM
I have contacted tons of places regarding a T-56 for my 68 Firebird project

and Hurst got back to me with an estimate really fast

American powertrain took about a couple weeks

and Keisler got back to me in only :rolleyes: a matter of months, with a quote for a 5 speed, and after I tried to contact them to get an updated quote they never answered me, so I resubmitted on their website and now almost a year later, still nothing


Hurst +1

Richio1
05-31-2011, 09:18 AM
I was just looking at kits this weekend. American Powertrain seemed to have everything in the kit even the new tunnel piece. I also like the crossmember piece they offer.

I experienced the same thing with Keisler... No response to multiple web inquiries.

I've heard great things about Hurst too but living in CA, where they are based, I am trying to avoid the almost 10% sales tax but with American Powertrain the shipping to CA was over $1000. I need to call Hurst and weigh my options.

The Summit code seems like a great option but you/we will need to build the kit ourselves. But to save the tax, cheap shipping and 10% off seems like the best deal... But no tech support like with the others... hmmmm

BBC71Nova
05-31-2011, 10:38 AM
I've talked to a few vendors myself and by far the most helpful was Jim@Hurst Drivelines. He is super knowledgeable of the products and conversions. Their price was as cheap as I had seen and they were offering free shipping. Once I make a decision and the budget recovers that's likely where mine will be coming from.

out2kayak
05-31-2011, 03:36 PM
I picked up my T-56 Magnum from RPM transmission (http://www.rpmtransmissions.com/index.html).

They did a good job at a good price. Nice guys to deal with to boot.

:cheers:

214Chevy
05-31-2011, 07:13 PM
I bought all of my own stuff. I bought my T56 Magnum from Jegs and my clutch from Ram. Any authorized seller has to sell the T56 Magnum for the same price. The other stuff is where you have to be careful and get your savings.

69pro-touring
06-01-2011, 12:24 PM
American Powertrain gave me a great deal on my T56 mag and all the goodies to go along with it and all responses were quick for me.

6D9 Matt
06-01-2011, 02:09 PM
Im looking to get a T56 magnum pretty soon I think... Im gonna need a full conversion kit (currently have a 700R4 auto).

RBR
06-01-2011, 02:11 PM
I have used Hurst Driveline Conversions and American Powertrain. Do yourself a favor and go with Hurst Driveline Conversions. They know their stuff. They are very professional and will give you a packet with all the instructions for the conversion. You will also get a receipt listing all the parts and cost of each part.
When I bought from American Powertrain I got the wrong parts for my conversion that they recommended. Also had to pay for return shipping and restocking fees.:mad:
Not trying to be a hater, but I lost alot of time and money. Never was able to get a receipt listing the parts I bought. So I can't say how much I payed for each item. Not a big deal but when things started getting fishy I wanted to know what they were charging me for.

This is just my experience :cheers:

BBC71Nova
06-01-2011, 03:02 PM
Lots of interest in the T56 Magnum it seems. Sounds like a group buy to me :)

jocko124
06-01-2011, 03:11 PM
Thanks for all of your input Gents. Pulled the trigger on a close ratio T-56 Magnum from Hurst Drivelines today.

Matt@BOS
06-01-2011, 07:00 PM
Thanks for all of your input Gents. Pulled the trigger on a close ratio T-56 Magnum from Hurst Drivelines today.

Good call. I just swapped mine and got some miles on it for the first time today. Thanks to the .63 overdrive I now have a usable 6th gear with 3.73s.

If you ever need tech support make sure to get a hold Jim at Hurst Drivelines. He is a wealth of knowledge and knows every little facet of how to install and operate a t-56.

Matt

6D9 Matt
06-01-2011, 08:28 PM
Do you happen to have Jim's email at Hurst Drivelines? I have some questions about my swap. I am going to be converting a 700R4 to a T56 Magnum. Just wondering what kind of quotes Im going to get for that, etc. Thanks!

jocko124
06-01-2011, 08:59 PM
Do you happen to have Jim's email at Hurst Drivelines? I have some questions about my swap. I am going to be converting a 700R4 to a T56 Magnum. Just wondering what kind of quotes Im going to get for that, etc. Thanks!

Tony Edler's email is:

[email protected]

Jim Goodlad's email is:

[email protected]

NvrDun71
06-02-2011, 06:57 PM
Lots of interest in the T56 Magnum it seems. Sounds like a group buy to me :)

haha, sign me up on that group buy:thumbsup:

captainofiron
06-03-2011, 05:13 AM
haha, sign me up on that group buy:thumbsup:

hell yea man +2

Addicted
06-04-2011, 02:47 PM
Count me in!

6D9 Matt
06-06-2011, 09:25 AM
Id be in... lets get this going! :unibrow:

Swiftshifter68
06-06-2011, 02:42 PM
The "Trans' with shifter" price I've found was $2795 with Free Shipping in the lower 48 States. Is there a better deal to be found for the same package? I've already got a Ram Street Dual, scored it off of Ebay for $500, N.I.B. (I know! :wow: ) My Richmond is in nice shape, I just don't wanna' find out the hard way that it isn't up to snuff, I'll park the car for 6 months, pissed, I can just tell.

6D9 Matt
06-07-2011, 08:22 AM
Im gonna need the "Elite" kit (as Hurst Drivelines calls it) bc Im going from an auto (700R4) to a manual (wanting the T-56 Magnum). I got a quote from Keisler last week for something around $4,800. Got a few more emails out to other people, but sounds like Hurst gives you a very accurate kit for this conversion for a great price, so hoping to talk with Jim on the phone in the next month or so.

Devil Dog
06-07-2011, 09:30 PM
I went with Hurst Drivelines for my TKO-600 and also purchased the optional Black Jack Shifter for a perfect fit in the stock location.
Plus, I've always been faithful to the Hurst name products.:thumbsup:
Marco

NvrDun71
06-09-2011, 08:07 AM
So which site supporting vendor wants to step up with a T56 Magnum GP? :lateral:

BBC71Nova
06-09-2011, 09:19 AM
And preferably fairly soon :).

Jim@Hurst-driveline has the best deal going so far that I've found at 2795 w/free shipping. Good prices on bells as well. I just gotta round up some money:mad:

jocko124
06-10-2011, 01:47 PM
Just spoke to Tony Edler @ Hurst. I think he's working on something for us!

BBC71Nova
06-10-2011, 02:44 PM
That's good news about Hurst. Great bunch of guys over there it seems. I was likely buying from them anyway based on the great service. Hopefully they'll join up here so we can get some of their knowledge in some of these conversion threads.

6D9 Matt
06-12-2011, 08:09 PM
Just spoke to Tony Edler @ Hurst. I think he's working on something for us!

AWESOME!

DFRESH
06-12-2011, 08:55 PM
Got my Magnum from Hurst Driveline Conversions a week ago--got the entire kit (driveshaft, clutch, bellhousing, etc). Wonderful folks to deal with thus far!!

Doug

6D9 Matt
06-15-2011, 08:46 AM
If I have a center console (as seen below) with the 4-gauge pod, will this console still be able to be used after I swap in the T56 Magnum? Or will the new trans and tunnel modifications move the shifter back too far?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/mwaull/IMG_0960.jpg

jocko124
06-15-2011, 01:51 PM
Got a note from Tony @ Hurst Drivelines saying that they are working out the numbers for the group buy...so just a little longer!

Ron in SoCal
06-15-2011, 02:08 PM
^ put me on the list...:thumbsup:

BBC71Nova
06-15-2011, 03:28 PM
Sitting on ready :)

Roadbuster
06-15-2011, 08:48 PM
Got a note from Tony @ Hurst Drivelines saying that they are working out the numbers for the group buy...so just a little longer!

sounds interesting!

Sieg
06-15-2011, 10:37 PM
If I have a center console (as seen below) with the 4-gauge pod, will this console still be able to be used after I swap in the T56 Magnum? Or will the new trans and tunnel modifications move the shifter back too far?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/mwaull/IMG_0960.jpg

Yes, but it won't be plug and play. The center strut of the console will probably may need to be removed/relocated and the belt buckle cup will need to be shortened. If you try for a 1/2" of clearance from the shifter plate to console you'll need to fab a cover plate approximately 5" x 10" x 3/4". These cars dimensions can vary quite a bit for numerous reasons.

The number one rule is driveline/pinion angles need to be correct. Stance and subframe bushings all play a role. Stock ride height has the best chance of no tunnel cut mods, 2" lower just about guarantees a tunnel cut.

My car is looking like it will need an extra 1" - 1.25" of tunnel height

Sieg
06-16-2011, 10:57 PM
Scott's price is fair and they deliver as promised. Jim has been readily available for tech support. I confirmed details last week on Monday and had the kit that Thursday (West Coast). The price is very fair considering the service and support IMO.
Since I have a lowered car it means modding the tunnel height, if they'd just sent a tunnel monkey with the kit I'd probably be up and running. :D

NvrDun71
06-21-2011, 11:14 AM
To those that are looking at just the trans, has anyone got any feedback from Hurst on pricing/discounts?

Ron in SoCal
06-21-2011, 11:59 AM
To those that are looking at just the trans, has anyone got any feedback from Hurst on pricing/discounts?

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, Hurst like so many other Tremec resellers are not giving discounts on Maggies nor TKO 600s from what I can tell. I have been told multiple times by various resellers that they are contractually bound to sell them at the stated prices (i.e. 2795 and 2150 respectively) and there is not much margin in them. My take is that it's prob true but really chaps me that Tremec is engaged in price fixing and removes any element of competition in the markletplace. At the same time, it's their product and in high demand so I must take it for what it is...

BBC71Nova
06-21-2011, 01:33 PM
I spoke with Scott yesterday and got the same story. You have to buy the kits specified. No flexibility there.

I will add though that regardless Hurst still has the best prices on Trans, QT bellhousing and even their crossmember is about the least expensive one you will find. So I was sorta bummed but I'll probably still go with them. My only thing now is shipping time from the west coast and I'm also probably gonna go with the Speedtech/ATS crossmember since it has the removable center section.

6D9 Matt
06-22-2011, 09:08 AM
Im torn on what to do... I want the stronger T56, but all these tunnel mods, etc are kinda worrying me. Is it that big of a deal? I have a good friend who has a reputable shop here, and he is going to be doing the install. Assuming I get the Elite kit (converting from a 700R4) and all supporting parts from Hurst Drivelines, should it be fairly straight forward? Or would it be easier to just go with the TKO?

Sieg
06-22-2011, 10:50 AM
In the big picture the tunnel mods aren't a huge issue vs. the performance and enjoyment of the T56 vs. your other transmission options.

I'm right in the middle of my install, no regretes. Lot's of head scratching, calculating and up and down on the tranny jack but that's part of the fun with the project.

Here's where I'm at in the "challenge."
http://sieg.smugmug.com/Cars/69-Camaro/i-FHJCDjn/0/L/IMGP6522-L.jpg

Engine/trans are sitting at 2.5* with new subframe bushings in this pic.

jocko124
06-22-2011, 10:56 AM
In the big picture the tunnel mods aren't a huge issue vs. the performance and enjoyment of the T56 vs. your other transmission options.

I'm right in the middle of my install, no regretes. Lot's of head scratching, calculating and up and down on the tranny jack but that's part of the fun with the project.

Here's where I'm at in the "challenge."
http://sieg.smugmug.com/Cars/69-Camaro/i-FHJCDjn/0/L/IMGP6522-L.jpg

Engine/trans are sitting at 2.5* with new subframe bushings in this pic.

Damn Scott, you don't waste any time. I'm expecting mine tomorrow. :cheers: