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cpd004
09-07-2015, 05:09 PM
Here's a few pics of my 71 bird that's been a love hate battle since we met. It's currently Ls3 4L60e powered with Ridetech suspension, Wilwood brakes, etc. Trying to make a comfortable, daily drivable, amateur corner carver out of this thing. Not sure it's going to happen without a battle.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/83D876BA-EF68-4606-A94C-C3AC9E710EBE.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/83D876BA-EF68-4606-A94C-C3AC9E710EBE.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/34BBC56C-BA5B-4F81-AC5A-BFA5A9BFA63B.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/34BBC56C-BA5B-4F81-AC5A-BFA5A9BFA63B.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/IMG_1682.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/IMG_1682.jpg.html)
Ummgawa
09-07-2015, 05:46 PM
You gotta share more man. Interior, backstory, etc.
I dig Pontiacs and I'm not alone.
pro66tour
09-07-2015, 05:58 PM
Here's a few pics of my 71 bird that's been a love hate battle since we met. It's currently Ls3 4L60e powered with Ridetech suspension, Wilwood brakes, etc. Trying to make a comfortable, daily drivable, amateur corner carver out of this thing. Not sure it's going to happen without a battle.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/83D876BA-EF68-4606-A94C-C3AC9E710EBE.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/83D876BA-EF68-4606-A94C-C3AC9E710EBE.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/34BBC56C-BA5B-4F81-AC5A-BFA5A9BFA63B.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/34BBC56C-BA5B-4F81-AC5A-BFA5A9BFA63B.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/IMG_1682.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/IMG_1682.jpg.html)
A battle? Is that what it's called. More like true love brother! All our cars give us a battle - why we love them. Love the early 2nd gen birds. If money was all around me, and it isn't be one in my short list of cars. I agree with Jim - defenately more pics and back story required. All the best with your build bud, I'll be watching...
cpd004
09-07-2015, 07:04 PM
Well, I've been a car guy since I could walk and have had a few cars here and there, but when the pro-touring/g-machine thing happened, I knew that's what I wanted. I was never able to really get started putting anything together. I had a few very close calls in a row at work a couple of years ago and r4eally came to understand the 'life's too short' saying.
I started looking around, not too seriously, but had some ideas on what I wanted. I was looking for a 73 mainly because I love Albert Melchoir's car. I stumbled upon this 71 that had a very early Holly TBI injected 400 with a 200R4. We made a deal and it became mine. While it ran good, I soon wanted more.
I again started not too seriously looking for an Ls drivetrain. Came across a wrecked 13,000 mile Corvette and was able to get the motor. I turned to PSi for advice on a trans and harness. Since I didn't want (nor was capable) of cutting the tunnel, a 4L60e was chosen.
I had accumulated a few gift cards from Summit over years of Father's day's, birthdays and Christmases to be able to pick up Holley headers, motor mounts, etc. I was able to get the car running (lot's of 'hey this was supposed to just fit/work' but didn't).
Been battling tuning it as it doesn't run right. Took it to a local well known shop who blamed the harness for a misfire, which actually was the fault of the base tune that was in the car.
The car has Ridetech suspension, Wilwood brakes, DSE body mounts, DSE steering box, Circle wheels, Spectra EFI tank, Griffin radiator (because the BeCool somehow sprung a leak), etc. The interior now has Speedhut gauges and I had Randy Combs redo the bezel (outstanding work and highly recommended). Sue Serafinski did a Formula wheel for me (also awesome work). Otherwise, it's basically not together yet.
I'd like to someday get that all straightened out and be able to afford Vintage Air and a host of other mods, but for now, I'd love to just get it tuned so it'll run as it should. I never thought it would take since February to get it tuned and issues with the suspension sorted out. I know it'll all come together as it should. Just an amateur dad playing around in the garage hoping to enjoy it sooner than later.
here are a few more pics:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/IMG_2043.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/IMG_2043.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/IMG_1067.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/IMG_1067.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/IMG_1065.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/IMG_1065.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/IMG_1509_1.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/IMG_1509_1.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/IMG_1546_1.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/IMG_1546_1.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/IMG_1690_1.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/IMG_1690_1.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/D5CE3A96-B3C0-4C73-AD38-5B9F21FEBB20.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/D5CE3A96-B3C0-4C73-AD38-5B9F21FEBB20.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/67842867-0886-4F62-A60D-701C3A800D3E.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/67842867-0886-4F62-A60D-701C3A800D3E.jpg.html)
pro66tour
09-07-2015, 07:13 PM
Sounds very familiar! Well you are definitely off to a great start.
The whole car is in front of you (assembled) and its a matter of taking it to the next level of G-machinessssss….:relax:
YAMATHUMP
09-07-2015, 07:21 PM
Very nice, you will have a very good looking car when you get the tune sorted. Like Ummgawa I have an affinity for 2nd gen Firebirds and will be keeping an eye on this one. Hope you get it sorted out and enjoying it soon!
Ummgawa
09-07-2015, 07:26 PM
No such thing as too few (oops, MANY!!) pictures.
carbuff
09-07-2015, 07:50 PM
Nice to see another 'bird! :thumbsup:
carbuff
09-07-2015, 07:51 PM
No such thing as too few pictures.
Too few? We need MOAR!
cpd004
09-07-2015, 08:18 PM
Thanks all. Definitely a lot of inspiration on these forums!
Ummgawa
09-07-2015, 10:05 PM
Too few? We need MOAR!
Oops, my bad. Post pix man!
MOAR, MOAR, MOAR!!!
WSSix
09-08-2015, 08:28 AM
Gorgeous car! Sounds like you have a good plan for the car, too.
Can you provide contact information for Randy Combs? I'm trying to find someone who can do a custom gauge panel for my car.
cpd004
09-08-2015, 09:06 AM
Thanks for the compliments! I'll try and dig up a few more pics.
I can't say enough good things about Randy. His focus is on restoration, but I have heard of him doing some custom stuff as well. He is a one man operation though, so if you need it by a certain date, hopefully he can accommodate you.
http://www.transamdashbezels.com/
Gscherer78ta
09-08-2015, 12:09 PM
I love these cars and yours looks awesome! You've got a great start on yours, don't give up- I wish I had half the stuff you have for my '78 TA!
Keep it up and keep posting pictures!
Campbellshotrods
09-08-2015, 02:21 PM
Wow, gorgeous car. And I never tire of the lines on these cars, they just scream sexy, and have beautiful curves! Excuse me, I'm getting a little emotional, haha.
cpd004
09-08-2015, 02:38 PM
Here are a couple of the in-progress interior pics.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/5D234142-607E-44AE-9EF1-98FCB4F67A46.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/5D234142-607E-44AE-9EF1-98FCB4F67A46.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/EF2D1981-44BA-480C-BBBF-EA954561BED1_1.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/EF2D1981-44BA-480C-BBBF-EA954561BED1_1.jpg.html)
Panteracer
09-08-2015, 02:57 PM
Great to see another early 2nd gen bird on
the forum.. good looking car..
Bob
Empty1
09-08-2015, 04:03 PM
Very nice. I have a similar project with a '71 Firebird, so I'm curious on a couple of things. For one, it looks like you have vintage air temperature controls, did you upgrade your heater/air system? Secondly, I'm not sure what size tires you have, but did you mini-tub your rear wheel wells?
cpd004
09-08-2015, 05:08 PM
thanks....yes it has an older Vintage Air system that was working fine with the original 400. I just never bothered to upgrade the compressor to get it working with the Ls3. They have just come out with a new system for 2nd gen's that finally adds a decent looking control panel. It is on the to do list some day.
The car is mini-tubbed. I originally planned on 335/30/18's back there and just couldn't see how it would fit even though others with my same exact set up have used this size successfully. I wish I would've never tubbed it, since the tires I went with will fit the factory wheel wells easily.
The car is actually too low or I need a panhard bar maybe. When I back into my garage which is barely pitched, the inside tire on the passenger side comes in contact with the upper wheel well in the back and stops the car immediately.
I'd rather not go with a lower profile tire as I really do like the look of a bit more rubber. Been waiting on advice from Ridetech.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/9EEEFA8C-3B1C-4FDE-87E9-E7C6F55B6460.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/9EEEFA8C-3B1C-4FDE-87E9-E7C6F55B6460.jpg.html)
The rears are 275/40/18's.
chichirone
09-08-2015, 08:31 PM
Awesome car man! I too love Alberts builds. HA!
Great stance. Cool build. Keep the pics coming man.
bsharpe
09-09-2015, 08:56 AM
Im surprised the car sits that low with the 4 link. I was worried my car was going to sit too high.
cpd004
09-09-2015, 09:07 AM
Definitely too low for me. Needs to go up a bit. Still haven't heard from Ridetech about what they suggest.
WSSix
09-09-2015, 12:23 PM
Can you adjust the coilovers up some more? If not, you may need a stronger spring in the rear.
cpd004
09-09-2015, 12:25 PM
There is supposedly some bind going on somewhere. The drivers side rear (which is higher than the passenger side rear) isn't compressed much. The passenger rear is compressed almost fully and is still lower than the drivers side by 1/2" The front is similar but exactly opposite of the rear.
WSSix
09-09-2015, 02:51 PM
Have you tried placing jack stands under the rear frame rails and using a jack to put the suspension through it's range of motion? You should be able to see the bind doing this.
cpd004
09-09-2015, 03:38 PM
I haven't. They asked for some measurements and now just waiting on a response.
WSSix
09-10-2015, 09:50 AM
ok. Hopefully, they come back with some easy fixes.
chichirone
09-10-2015, 09:26 PM
thanks....yes it has an older Vintage Air system that was working fine with the original 400. I just never bothered to upgrade the compressor to get it working with the Ls3. They have just come out with a new system for 2nd gen's that finally adds a decent looking control panel. It is on the to do list some day.
The car is mini-tubbed. I originally planned on 335/30/18's back there and just couldn't see how it would fit even though others with my same exact set up have used this size successfully. I wish I would've never tubbed it, since the tires I went with will fit the factory wheel wells easily.
The car is actually too low or I need a panhard bar maybe. When I back into my garage which is barely pitched, the inside tire on the passenger side comes in contact with the upper wheel well in the back and stops the car immediately.
I'd rather not go with a lower profile tire as I really do like the look of a bit more rubber. Been waiting on advice from Ridetech.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/9EEEFA8C-3B1C-4FDE-87E9-E7C6F55B6460.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/9EEEFA8C-3B1C-4FDE-87E9-E7C6F55B6460.jpg.html)
The rears are 275/40/18's.
You have any pics of the rear suspension from underneath the car? What spring rate are you running out back? Which Ridetech shock are you using? It took me a few adjustments on my coil overs and spring rates with help from Ridetech to get the ride height acceptable without rubbing, scraping, and comfortable ride quality.
cpd004
09-11-2015, 07:18 AM
They are single adjustable shocks. The rear springs are 185. There's nothing in the trunk and some of the interior isn't in the car. It can only get lower as it is now when adding weight.
I'll see if I can find some pics.
cpd004
09-11-2015, 07:22 AM
Here are a couple.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/E4290FD3-8C53-4045-828B-04386647B12C.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/E4290FD3-8C53-4045-828B-04386647B12C.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/4A406148-3C63-41A7-AB19-F1E674FFD9A2.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/4A406148-3C63-41A7-AB19-F1E674FFD9A2.jpg.html)
I talked to Ron Sutton (great guy!!) about it and he asked for some info including weight. Oddly its very hard finding anyone with scales near me. Hopefully this weekend I should be able to get that info finally.
dhutton
09-11-2015, 07:55 AM
Aren't those lower coilover mounts adjustable? Just raise them one notch.
Don
cpd004
09-11-2015, 09:37 AM
The coil over mounts are not adjustable. Only the lower control arms are.
dhutton
09-11-2015, 01:04 PM
The coil over mounts are not adjustable. Only the lower control arms are.
I think they are and I see a hole above where yours are installed. I think you can move the mount up one hole. I know the first gen four bars are able to do this. When I look at the installation instructions your mounts appear to be lower. I don't see the unused hole in the instruction photos.
Don
cpd004
09-11-2015, 07:46 PM
That block actually can't go up or down. I'll try and get a better pic tomorrow. The lower control arm can move up or down, but it will change the angle of the rear end. Here's another pic I had, but it doesn't really show much else other than the old tires.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/IMG_2075.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/IMG_2075.jpg.html)
dhutton
09-11-2015, 08:22 PM
That block actually can't go up or down. I'll try and get a better pic tomorrow. The lower control arm can move up or down, but it will change the angle of the rear.
If it could move up like the first gens you would be in good shape.
Don
cpd004
09-13-2015, 05:59 PM
If it could move up like the first gens you would be in good shape.
Don
It can...I'd guess that it would throw the rear end pinion angle off. That bracket and the control arm can move up. It still wouldn't raise the front at this point. It's definitely something to consider though.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/D8E9D58D-EE03-48CC-979A-78A8E1EAAB53.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/D8E9D58D-EE03-48CC-979A-78A8E1EAAB53.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/a1fd8df2-a77c-4dc2-915f-5ebae4aca036.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/a1fd8df2-a77c-4dc2-915f-5ebae4aca036.jpg.html)
Man...I've got to stop driving this thing around in the rain!
WSSix
09-14-2015, 07:54 AM
Your coil overs in the rear are set very differently. Was that done in an attempt to correct the height issues or some other reason? How are the fronts adjusted compared to one another?
cpd004
09-14-2015, 08:05 AM
Your coil overs in the rear are set very differently. Was that done in an attempt to correct the height issues or some other reason? How are the fronts adjusted compared to one another?
Yes...to correct the height issue. The fronts are exact opposite of the rear as far as preload goes on the coils. The front passenger has barely any preload compared to the drivers side on the front. I believe there is bind somewhere and have gone over everything a few times with nothing jumping out as obvious. The ride, as you can imagine, is not confidence inspiring by any means.
cpd004
09-25-2015, 09:31 PM
Well, turns out there may be some issues with my shocks and spring rates. One odd thing I have going on is that there are only 9 clicks available for adjustment instead of 24. Just waiting on Ridetech to see what they want me to do. One disappointing thing so far is that I've talked to a few different support guys and it seems to take forever for them to get back to me after I send them measurements or results based on what they'd like me to try.
WSSix
09-26-2015, 08:31 AM
Sorry to hear it's not going as smoothly and quickly as you'd like. Hopefully, they can get on it and have it figured out for you soon.
cpd004
09-26-2015, 08:35 AM
Sorry to hear it's not going as smoothly and quickly as you'd like. Hopefully, they can get on it and have it figured out for you soon.
I hope so too. The weather will be turning soon, and I'd like to get at least that part resolved and maybe put a few miles on the car this year.
MtotheIKEo
09-26-2015, 11:54 AM
It can...I'd guess that it would throw the rear end pinion angle off. That bracket and the control arm can move up. It still wouldn't raise the front at this point. It's definitely something to consider though.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/D8E9D58D-EE03-48CC-979A-78A8E1EAAB53.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/D8E9D58D-EE03-48CC-979A-78A8E1EAAB53.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/a1fd8df2-a77c-4dc2-915f-5ebae4aca036.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/a1fd8df2-a77c-4dc2-915f-5ebae4aca036.jpg.html)
Man...I've got to stop driving this thing around in the rain!
Just a note here, changing your coiler mounts will not change your pinion angle. The second picture you posted is where the bottom link connects, that doesn't need to change. The suggestion was to move the silver coilover mount up one hole if possible. I can't tell from your picture if there is a hole available. Maybe you can flip that silver bracket upside down from where it is, that should raise the rear end up an inch or two.
cpd004
09-26-2015, 12:35 PM
I did misunderstand. There are no more holes available. Before doing that, I'll wait to see what they want me to do. It's reasonably close to level (and higher) now, but the rear coils are almost completely compressed.
MtotheIKEo
09-26-2015, 04:02 PM
I did misunderstand. There are no more holes available. Before doing that, I'll wait to see what they want me to do. It's reasonably close to level (and higher) now, but the rear coils are almost completely compressed.
Quick search found this picture of a 2nd gen Ridetech install. Looks like the coiler mount was installed higher. Should be a quick fix to get an easy inch higher if you decide to try it out.
http://www.designengineering.com/sites/default/files/article_2ndchance_2707.jpg
cpd004
09-26-2015, 07:19 PM
Thanks for the pic! That's actually different than how mine is. I'll see if I have a pic somewhere.
cpd004
10-01-2015, 05:14 PM
Quick search found this picture of a 2nd gen Ridetech install. Looks like the coiler mount was installed higher. Should be a quick fix to get an easy inch higher if you decide to try it out.
http://www.designengineering.com/sites/default/files/article_2ndchance_2707.jpg
Mine is the same as the one pictured. After a lot of back and forth with Rodney over at Ridetech, it turns out that some of my issues are with the front shocks. For whatever reason, I have only 9 total clicks available of what should be 24 with no way to determine where the 9 are within the compression range. They need to go back to Ridetech for them to determine what happened.
On a side note, I was able to weigh the car:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/8E52F1C6-3E82-48EC-BDB7-1AA54639960F.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/8E52F1C6-3E82-48EC-BDB7-1AA54639960F.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/unitsn4/A255D321-83CE-4D55-AF9F-DA37B3E29C33.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/unitsn4/media/A255D321-83CE-4D55-AF9F-DA37B3E29C33.jpg.html)
Other than moving the battery back to the trunk, I see no other weigh to bring the weight down in the front. That long nose is very heavy!
Campbellshotrods
10-01-2015, 05:41 PM
Yikes! Kind of what I expected, which is why I'll be running an Anvil formula hood, and aluminum heads on the 455... but it's still a 455, and you're running an LS!!! I knew it would never be the ultimate track car though, I'll be making my 71 Camaro aim for that title since I can make that one balanced.
cpd004
10-01-2015, 06:24 PM
Yikes! Kind of what I expected, which is why I'll be running an Anvil formula hood, and aluminum heads on the 455... but it's still a 455, and you're running an LS!!! I knew it would never be the ultimate track car though, I'll be making my 71 Camaro aim for that title since I can make that one balanced.
I forgot about Anvil. There hood and nose would surely help. Both of those at minimum would be $2000 :eek:
These numbers make me wonder how Mary Pozzi's Camaro compares and what, if anything was done to that car for balance?
chichirone
10-01-2015, 08:36 PM
Here is a pic of the Ridetech 4 link on our car prior to changing to a 3 link. Same mount position as yours. The shock valving you are experiencing is a bit strange as I have had single and triple adjustable and not experienced the issue as you describe. 9 vs 24 clicks.
http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag340/Jdeluca/A040EAED-3792-49BB-A9F8-96CA53E05641_zpsl62zferj.jpg (http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/Jdeluca/media/A040EAED-3792-49BB-A9F8-96CA53E05641_zpsl62zferj.jpg.html)
Regarding the spring rate, I run 450's in the rear on our car. Use to have 225's and the rear was way too "soft" so your 185's need changed. What are you running up front? We have 650's and up front. Our car weighed in at 3300 with driver weight included. The guys at RT will get you sorted. I have had them send me a couple different springs when we were dialing in the car so I am sure you will get great service from them and on the road soon. Check out their comparative weights on their website for spring rates as well. Ron Sutton is the man so if anything I am suggesting is counter to his recommendations, IGNORE ME COMPLETELY! HA!
DBasher
10-01-2015, 09:57 PM
Are the weights taken with you in the car? And help me understand that front left weight....is there really "extras" up in the corner or is it because the suspension isn't dialed in and it's seeing a jacking effect?
Love the car, even at the height its at, it looks great.
Good luck getting it sorted.
:thumbsup:
cpd004
10-02-2015, 08:12 AM
Here is a pic of the Ridetech 4 link on our car prior to changing to a 3 link. Same mount position as yours. The shock valving you are experiencing is a bit strange as I have had single and triple adjustable and not experienced the issue as you describe. 9 vs 24 clicks.
http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag340/Jdeluca/A040EAED-3792-49BB-A9F8-96CA53E05641_zpsl62zferj.jpg (http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/Jdeluca/media/A040EAED-3792-49BB-A9F8-96CA53E05641_zpsl62zferj.jpg.html)
Regarding the spring rate, I run 450's in the rear on our car. Use to have 225's and the rear was way too "soft" so your 185's need changed. What are you running up front? We have 650's and up front. Our car weighed in at 3300 with driver weight included. The guys at RT will get you sorted. I have had them send me a couple different springs when we were dialing in the car so I am sure you will get great service from them and on the road soon. Check out their comparative weights on their website for spring rates as well. Ron Sutton is the man so if anything I am suggesting is counter to his recommendations, IGNORE ME COMPLETELY! HA!
My fronts are 600. I know how I want it to ride, and am thinking with the way the rates are now, it'll be too soft. They want the shocks back and did say those rates are good with the measurements I sent in.
I did talk to Ron once (what a great guy!) about the issues...he requested a bunch of info including vehicle weight before making any suggestions. It took me almost 2 months to get the car weighed, so now I have everything he has asked for. I'll forward that all to him hopefully later today.
Not sure what the shock issue is. When I first got them and put the front on, the adjustment knob was impossible to turn by hand. I emailed tech support and Britt responded saying to just go ahead and crank the hell out of them as they are very robust. A pair of pliers did the trick, but apparently there was more wrong than just them being initially stuck.
Are the weights taken with you in the car? And help me understand that front left weight....is there really "extras" up in the corner or is it because the suspension isn't dialed in and it's seeing a jacking effect?
Love the car, even at the height its at, it looks great.
Good luck getting it sorted.
Thanks for the compliment!
That was without me in it. The battery is in that corner and I'm running the Corvette accessory drive with no AC yet. That put's the alternator and steering pump there as well. That, along with the gear box, makes for that being the heaviest corner by far.
The car is not sitting perfectly level, so I'm sure the numbers are off.
Campbellshotrods
10-02-2015, 11:35 AM
I forgot about Anvil. There hood and nose would surely help. Both of those at minimum would be $2000 :eek:
Definitely not a cheap part, the single most expensive part I've bought for my car at this point. Didn't go with the nose, since I will drive the car and wanted an actual bumper. I might do a track nose later.
The car is not sitting perfectly level, so I'm sure the numbers are off.
I was wondering about the LF corner myself. It does seem really skewed, but then again I've never had any cars on scales yet so I have no reference. A battery is probably 30 lbs, a/c compressor maybe 20 lbs, steering box maybe 35 lbs... so I think 85 lbs max to the LF. RF would have some a/c box weight too, but that might be balanced by the column and master cylinder on the LH side. It would be interesting to see what the scale weights are on another 2nd gen F-body.
cpd004
11-06-2015, 06:46 PM
So Ridetech had me move the rear blocks up like you have pictured MtotheIKEo. Mine was like what Jay posted in his pic and that's also how the instructions show to install them. This definitely will gain move the body up by about an inch.
They have also bumped the front up to 650 lb springs. I've got a few other things going on so I won't be able to tell what kind of difference anything has made for a little while.
I also noticed a 2 of the bolts for the 4 link have loosened. The same two on each side as a matter of fact. They go through the thin sheet metal frame rail. It is not welded, but I may have to look into that if I can't figure another way to keep them tight.
cpd004
12-02-2015, 08:43 AM
Despite the crappy weather....I was able to put the car back down and take a very short ride...the car is sitting much better now. The revised rate of the front springs and moving the blocks up have raised the car a bit to where I think will be good for the driving I do. I can't tell what has changed in the ride quality just yet, but will hopefully get to after getting the stance finalized and an alignment.
WSSix
12-05-2015, 10:35 AM
Glad to hear the good news!
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