'69 Camaro Temper

[CamaroAJ]

So my old build thread for this car I hosted all my pictures with Facebook and since they have changed some settings and all the picture links are dead. In the mean time I moved to Texas from Ohio and haven't made any real progress in the last year and a half as the car is still back home in Ohio. So I've been doing some parts collecting and changes in how I want to build the car since I can't work on it right now. The plan is to get the car down here in the next month or so and get to work on it. I'm not going to post all the old pictures from the build, but I'll hit on the highlights.

The updated build plan:
LS7. Not sure on anything on it yet as I've just started collecting parts for it.
6-speed trains with cooler pump. Likely T56 magnum with the TR6060 pump
Lateral dynamics 3-link
Speedtech gen 1 subframe with ATS spindles
C5Z abs and stabilatrac
Forgeline wheels
The GMR C6 hybrid rear hubs
Vintage air
Power windows
Modern door latches with locks
LED tail lamps with Marquez designs lenses
Anvil carbon fiber front clip
Infinity box wiring
Speedhut gauges
Dapper lighting headlamps

With all that onto the pictures. Renderings from Kris Horton
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image.jpeg
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Engine set back 7"
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The GMR C6 hybrid hub adapter
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4th Camaro dash. Not 100% I'm going to keep it right now
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_25.jpeg

I'm thinking iPad control for the infinity box
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_35.jpeg

Battery relocated to the trunk
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_27.jpeg

Rear diff and trans cooler housings
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Wiper motor relocated and upgraded
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_23.jpeg

Tri-y stainless headers I built
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Speedhut CAN buss gauges
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[CamaroAJ]

Infinity box goodness
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_12.jpeg
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Decided to build my own engine harness
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Some weight reduction stuff

Autorad radiator and core support
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Anvil parts that have come in so far
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Titanium hood pin
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_19.jpeg

Dimple die work on some front end parts
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[CamaroAJ]

My tail lamps
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_18.jpeg

Laying out the LED's
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Buck for the mold to make carbon fiber tail lamp housings for the LED's
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_16.jpeg

Washer reservoir I made to fill between the exhaust cut outs
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_30.jpeg

The interior with 3 link and package try delete
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_32.jpeg

5th gen Camaro z/28 emblems for a modern update
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_21.jpeg

NACA ducts to the rear coolers
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[69x22]

It's gonna be awesome! Welcome to Texas..

[98ssnova]

Awesome fab work.do you have the center console for the interior? if not i have one.

[WSSix]

Really neat build. Love the rendering. Good luck with the move and getting the car down there, too.

[waynieZ]

I love the rendering! This is great to see AJ ! Man those are some nice parts you've got there. I'll be in San Antonio for a few days in mid April. I would love to see the car.

[CamaroAJ]

Thanks guys.

Mike, I have a console, but thank you.

Wayne, the car is still in Ohio. Hopefully I'll have it here before April so message me when you come down.

[DOOM]

NICE!!!!!!!!!!! Really like the rendering!!

[waynieZ]

Thanks I will. It looks so amazing.

[Project_Gotham]

I thought I would be the only one in SA with the new Z/28 theme on my car... You car is very nice, can't wait to see it!

[patriot68]

Welcome to San Antonio

[CamaroAJ]

Thanks guys.

The new emblems are a nice touch to bring the car up to date to match all the modern stuff that's inside the car as well.

[Ron in SoCal]

Awesome AJ! So glad you're pushing forward on this car. In the early days your creativity inspired me on my build as well. :thumbsup:

Love the look of the naca ducts too.

[CamaroAJ]

Awesome AJ! So glad you're pushing forward on this car. In the early days your creativity inspired me on my build as well. :thumbsup:

Love the look of the naca ducts too.

I'm glad I was able to inspire creative changes on someone else's build. I have some more ideas that I want to change on my car already. I've had a lot of time to sit and think about things on it and how I want to redo a few things.

They move a crazy amount of air when I put a fan at the front of the car blowing down the side. You could feel it coming out of the outlets more than you could feel the air movement down the side of the car.

[waynieZ]

I love it when a plan works!

[syborg tt]

Very impressive car.


Marty-mj
www.garagescene.net www.syborgtwinturbo.com www.2ndcamaro.com

[Jr]

Damn. Engine set back 7"...

[Josh@Ridetech]

Nice fab work! That's going to be a killer looking car!

[CamaroAJ]

Thanks guys, getting a list of parts to get ordered this week for it.

Damn. Engine set back 7"...

Yup, if you look at the sub frame you can see the black plugs where the stock motor mounts would have gone.

[Nine Ball]

Nice fab work, and creativity. Welcome to Texas!

Tony

[CamaroAJ]

Nice fab work, and creativity. Welcome to Texas!

Tony

Thank you.

[srh3trinity]

I like the duct flowing into the rear gills. I have always thought there was some potential to do some inventive things. Just when you think you have seen everything that you can do to a 69, somebody steps up. You have some cool ideas and it looks like the talent to back it up.

[frankv11]

Agree with others . Great fab skills, especially those cooler housings " may steal the idea "

[CamaroAJ]

Thanks guys. I hate when I see non functional stuff on cars so I'm pretty happy with my vents.

There is a lot of other good ideas I have for the car, but money and/or skill keep me from going doing more.

[northwests]

Awesome build. You are doing some nice work there. I too did the wiper motor conversion under the fender. I have been having trouble with e transition arm. Any thoughts or advice on that? Any pics of what you pulled off?

[CamaroAJ]

Awesome build. You are doing some nice work there. I too did the wiper motor conversion under the fender. I have been having trouble with e transition arm. Any thoughts or advice on that? Any pics of what you pulled off?

I used the DeVille wiper transmission arms and ball studs to get rid of the stock steel clamp so that the system operated quiet and smooth. I did it almost 4 years ago so I don't remember all what I had to do other than shorten them and twist one of them. I do remember that I built the whole system using the stock long arm cut in half and installed it onto the car and welded a rod between the cut parts to get the correct arm length. You can kinda see it on the top arm on the left side of the first picture.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/WIPER.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/WIPER.jpg.html)

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/WIPER1.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/WIPER1.jpg.html)

[waynieZ]

Nice, my wipers on my 69 sound like a bucket of bolts rolling around.

[CamaroAJ]

Nice, my wipers on my 69 sound like a bucket of bolts rolling around.

That would drive me nuts.

[northwests]

Thanks. That's awesome.

[RPitts]

Great fab work on the vents! Did you fab up the LED tail lights?

[CamaroAJ]

Great fab work on the vents! Did you fab up the LED tail lights?

I did, then set them in potting epoxy to protect everything

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/image_1.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/image_1.jpeg.html)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/image.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/image.jpeg.html)

[waynieZ]

I used the DeVille wiper transmission arms and ball studs to get rid of the stock steel clamp so that the system operated quiet and smooth. I did it almost 4 years ago so I don't remember all what I had to do other than shorten them and twist one of them. I do remember that I built the whole system using the stock long arm cut in half and installed it onto the car and welded a rod between the cut parts to get the correct arm length. You can kinda see it on the top arm on the left side of the first picture.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/WIPER.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/WIPER.jpg.html)

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/WIPER1.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/WIPER1.jpg.html)

AJ, are the part the wiper arm connects to ( not sure of what they call it) still the Camao part or are they Deville too?

[CamaroAJ]

AJ, are the part the wiper arm connects to ( not sure of what they call it) still the Camao part or are they Deville too?

The ball studs? They are Deville. The arm mounts are Camaro. If I remember right they just knocked out from the back side like they are pressed in then I welded the Deville ones back in. If you do this swap like I did when you get everything you'll see how much bigger the newer parts are vs. the old stuff.

[jamminj007]

I like that color of blue. What is that?
Thanks
Jonathan

[CamaroAJ]

I like that color of blue. What is that?
Thanks
Jonathan

Electron blue metallic. Its a C5 vette color.

[CamaroAJ]

My car showed up last week and it was good to play with it a little after not seeing it in about 20 months. Started by bolting the trunk lid on to check figment. Not too bad but will need some metal work to fit like it should.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_40.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_40.jpeg.html)

As I sold the engine and transmission as soon as the car got here I got to work rough cutting the area for the LS7 oil tank

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_41.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_41.jpeg.html)

And since I'm going with a different transmission the trans mount had to go as well.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_37.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_37.jpeg.html)

Since all my fab tools aren't at work yet I started to make patterns for the fuel fill that I stole from ironworks and the diff cooler I stole from hellfire

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_39.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_39.jpeg.html)
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To wrap things up on this update I bought a new toy to help build some higher quality parts with. The rest of the dies showed up after I took the picture so now I have a full rack

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_42.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_42.jpeg.html)

[frankv11]

Aj this is some impressive work your doing , it's going to be over the top cool ..

[waynieZ]

Nice update AJ. Nice new toy too.

[CamaroAJ]

Thanks guys. Hopefully someday I'll be able to drive this thing.

[CamaroAJ]

So I've been playing with this car a little bit after work. Nothing too exciting but I did get the fuel filler mount cut out and I think a decent setup for it. I'll weld it up tomorrow and see if I like it or not.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_4_1.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_4_1.jpeg.html)

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_5_1.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_5_1.jpeg.html)

[meenaggie]

Very impressive. Looking forward to more updates.

[tmadden]

Looking good. Keep the pics coming

[CamaroAJ]

Thanks guys.

I had a busy weekend and didn't get to work on the car as much as I wanted to. I did get the harness hole filled in my firewall since I changed to Infinitybox setup instead.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_45.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_45.jpeg.html)

And I got the filler mount welded and ready for paint
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_43.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_43.jpeg.html)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_44.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_44.jpeg.html)

Today I built a stand for my new grinder
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_46.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_46.jpeg.html)

Hopefully I'll be able to start making more progress on the regular now.

[CamaroAJ]

So I didn't like how my fuel filler came out. It's not bad, but it could be better. So I scrapped it and started over. The thing that bothered me to most was not being able to get a perfect circle recess. I thought about it last night and had an idea on how to make a perfect circle. After work tonight I cut some scrap 1/4" plate and made a pivot point. I'll refine it later for infinite adjustment for up to 14" circles with a slot and a carriage bolt.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/image_4.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/image_4.jpeg.html)

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/image_5.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/image_5.jpeg.html)

I'll update this again this weekend hopefully with the redesigned filler mount.

[frankv11]

That's using your noodle.
Maybe we need a " show me your home made tools " thread
This would be a perfect opening act

[CamaroAJ]

Thanks Frank, it worked better than I hoped for.

Part of fuel filler version 2.0 with a perfect circle that I'm really happy with. More work on it tomorrow to hopefully finish it up.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_47.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_47.jpeg.html)

[Jimbo1367]

While I really liked. V
erion1, v. 2 looks even better

[CamaroAJ]

While I really liked. V
erion1, v. 2 looks even better

Thanks! I'm really happy with the fitment of the filler cap on this one vs. the old one.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/FUELCAP.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/FUELCAP.jpg.html)

[19,69camaro]

Nice! do you even have room for paint now?

[CamaroAJ]

Nice! do you even have room for paint now?

Thin coats! lol

[CamaroAJ]

Started to do a little body mods to the rear tail panel this weekend, but I forgot to get pictures of it. I'll get some tomorrow if I have time to work on it. I did get the fuel filler mount done though so here is a few pictures of it.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_49.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_49.jpeg.html)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_48.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_48.jpeg.html)

Version 1.0 vs. 2.0
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[CamaroAJ]

Decided that some minor body mods were in need to make the car more my liking. Started by smoothing the body recess that's mostly hidden by the bumper. Waiting on a new bumper to show up to recess the bumper ends and make it fit a bit tighter to the body. Then the seems will be filled.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_54.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_54.jpeg.html)
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http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_52.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_52.jpeg.html)

While I'm waiting on the bumper to show up I'm starting on flush mounting the windshield. Needs 1/4" filled around the top and 3/8" filled on each side to get it at 1/4" gap all the way around for a more modern weather strip figment.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_51.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_51.jpeg.html)

Hopefully more on this tomorrow evening.

[CamaroAJ]

I didn't get as much done with the windshield as I wanted to, but the hardest part is fitted.

Sides tacked in. Bottom left long until I get my fenders so I can finish fitment.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_55.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_55.jpeg.html)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_56.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_56.jpeg.html)

I forgot to get a picture of the driver side upper corner, but here is the passenger side tacked in. It doesn't look kill it because I moved the glass over after I tacked it. It's 1/4" all the way around.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_57.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_57.jpeg.html)

[syborg tt]

Looks great.

Make sure you buy a 2nd windshield as verify the fitment with the 2nd windshield. Just in case you damage the 1st glass.

They all never seem to be the same.


Marty-MJ

[CamaroAJ]

So I've been working on the front glass still as I only get an hour or so a day to work on it. Things were going pretty good until my mig gun gave up the ghost yesterday and the new one won't be here till Monday.

So here is where I'm at.
The whole outer frame is welded in and took forever as to not warp the metal. Here it is partially welded.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_64.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_64.jpeg.html)

All ground down
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The new lip is started and welded on the driver side
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_61.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_61.jpeg.html)

The side ground down and the top in progress. This is when the mig gun gave up on me. This is three pieces in order to make the bend in the corner.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_60.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_60.jpeg.html)

Since I could weld I fitted the remainder of the lip so it's ready to weld in.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_59.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_59.jpeg.html)

To wrap things up my Ring Brothers door handles and trunk hinges showed up Monday. My carbon fiber parts from Anvil will hopefully be here this week too. It was shipped Friday after 11 months of waiting.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_65.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_65.jpeg.html)

[CamaroAJ]

I forgot, since I'm sans welder I started on the recesses to mount my Infinity boxes
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[preston]

So for the glass you filled in the side and top gap - did you add anything to the bed where the windshield sits ? How much depth is on those edges ? In other words if you lay the windshield down on the opening, how recessed is the glass from the edges in the "vertical" direction - ie how much padding will go under the glass where you glue it and if you do need any spacing there how will that be accomplished ?

although I don't know why I ask, I'm way past the point where I would ever be motivated to put in flush glass, I'm just curious !

[CamaroAJ]

So for the glass you filled in the side and top gap - did you add anything to the bed where the windshield sits ? How much depth is on those edges ? In other words if you lay the windshield down on the opening, how recessed is the glass from the edges in the "vertical" direction - ie how much padding will go under the glass where you glue it and if you do need any spacing there how will that be accomplished ?

although I don't know why I ask, I'm way past the point where I would ever be motivated to put in flush glass, I'm just curious !

It's about 5/8" deep roof line to mounting lip. I measured new cars when they had the glass out and they are in the area of 5/8"-3/4". The glass is almost 1/4" thick so that leaves me with around 3/8" thickness of urethane to glue the glass in.

[CamaroAJ]

I got lots done yesterday now that my new mig gun showed up.

I finished welding and grinding the window frame
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/image_70.jpeg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/image_70.jpeg.html)

Then I got the driver A pillar weatherstrip filler tacked then fully welded and ground smooth (smoothed out not pictured)
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I plan on recessing my Infinity Box modules, so I started building boxes for the modules
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My Anvil fenders will be here tomorrow, so I went ahead and assembled the car lol
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[GregWeld]

Hurry up already!! It's looking great!

[syborg tt]

Now that is a cool picture.


My Anvil fenders will be here tomorrow, so I went ahead and assembled the car lol
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[CamaroAJ]

Thanks guys. I've got more parts on order and making good progress on it. I'm really looking forward to getting this car done and driving it.

[MtotheIKEo]

Do you mind sharing what tools/abrasives you are using for cleaning up all of those welds? You're stuff looks fantastic. Especially all of those inside corners like the window frame.

Car is looking great. This is a fun project to watch.

[CamaroAJ]

Do you mind sharing what tools/abrasives you are using for cleaning up all of those welds? You're stuff looks fantastic. Especially all of those inside corners like the window frame.

Car is looking great. This is a fun project to watch.

Thank you.

On the large flat areas I'm using 60 grit flap disk on a 4" air grinder to get it close as it takes off a lot of metal fast. The tight corners I'm using a carbide burr bit in a straight die grinder then a sandpaper roll on a angle die grinder. The straight inside angle parts I'm just using a 3" cut off wheel to rough grind everything. To smooth the rough grinds down I'm using 36 grit down to 60 grit 3" roloc disks on a 2" arbor to get the disk to flex enough to get the corners smooth. Once everything is good to go I finish it all off with 80 grit on a DA.

[waynieZ]

Thanks for the info AJ it will help. The car is looking nice.

[dhutton]

I love this build. Do you have the inner fender extensions? I have the same fenders and inner fenders but I have no idea how to go about installing the extensions.

Don

[CamaroAJ]

Thanks for the info AJ it will help. The car is looking nice.

No problem and thank you.

I love this build. Do you have the inner fender extensions? I have the same fenders and inner fenders but I have no idea how to go about installing the extensions.

Don

My fenders and extensions haven't shown up yet today so I'll have to get back to you on that one.

[CamaroAJ]

I love this build. Do you have the inner fender extensions? I have the same fenders and inner fenders but I have no idea how to go about installing the extensions.

Don

So I got good news and bad news.

The good news is I called Anvil and they told be the secret to bolting the extensions in.

The bad news is you have to cut the inner fenders then bolt, rivet, bond, or fiberglass the extensions to the inner fender.

I did get the carbon fenders bolted up real quick. They are going to need some work it get fit right, but they look fairly close for a starting point.
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[raustinss]

How long did it take from the order date to get your fenders

[dhutton]

So I got good news and bad news.

The good news is I called Anvil and they told be the secret to bolting the extensions in.

The bad news is you have to cut the inner fenders then bolt, rivet, bond, or fiberglass the extensions to the inner fender.



That's the same thing they told me. A little daunting to start cutting up those inner fenders. I am planning to use 3M 8115 panel adhesive to bond mine together.

Thanks,
Don

[CamaroAJ]

How long did it take from the order date to get your fenders

Almost a year. I'm still missing the lower valance too.

[CamaroAJ]

We've been slow at work so I've been playing with the Camaro. So far I've finished both roof/A pillar transitions, built another recess box for my InfinityBox module, and started on my rear bumper mounting and modding. Now to the pics

Driver side is the same
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[CamaroAJ]

I've been working on this rear bumper trying to get it how I want it. I'm close now, just needs a few tweaks on the driver side then I'll be happy. I wasn't too concerned with getting the metal work perfect as I'm going to make a mold from this and do it in carbon fiber.

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I also got my holes cut to mount the hood vents
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And I got part of my tail lamp housing from the 3D printer
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[Jr]

Are those hood vents from anvil?

Car looks good.

[CamaroAJ]

Are those hood vents from anvil?

Car looks good.

Thanks. Yes they are. I got the fiberglass ones since I was going to paint them and they weighed the same as the carbon fiber ones.

[CamaroAJ]

Just a quick update. I've been working on the body work aspect of the bumper as I want it as perfect as I can get it to make a mold from. Now that I have it really close I started with the fill pockets with tape patterns then marking where I want the body line.
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The driver side looked to be the harder side to do because I cut a little more than I meant to, we all make McSteaks. Just a little more welding to do, but it's slow as to not warp any metal.

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[CamaroAJ]

I finished up the driver side bumper recess today. I'm pretty happy with it, but it's not perfect.
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[Dr. Jekyll]

Very nice and tasteful modifications. I'm digging how this project is coming together!

[CamaroAJ]

Very nice and tasteful modifications. I'm digging how this project is coming together!

Thank you.

I got a lot done Friday night. Finished the right bumper recess then moved onto other tasks. I cut the seams for both quarters to tail panel then hammer and dollied the area to fit better then it was. After I was happy with the fitment I welded the seams for a cleaner look.
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I also filled the factory emblem holes then hammer and dollied the area and metal finished it.
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Saturday I wasn't feeling like working on the car, but I got the Ring Brothers trunk hinges mounted so I could start fitting the deck lit to fix the gaps. Sorry, I forgot to get a picture. I also added some safety to the car in the form of a C6 3rd brake lamp. Lots of measuring, remeasuring, cutting, hand filing, and hand sanding. I'm pretty happy with how it came out though.
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[NOPANTS68]

Man I really like that bumper treatment. That's very sharp. Nicely done.

[CamaroAJ]

Man I really like that bumper treatment. That's very sharp. Nicely done.

Thanks, I'm pretty happy with how it came out as well.

[meenaggie]

I really like the 3rd brake light in the rear spoiler . . . nicely integrated! I almost hate to say it but kind of disappointed with all the CF on your camaro after seeing your metal working skills. :D Nice updates and looking forward to seeing this one in person some day as a fellow Texan.

[CamaroAJ]

I really like the 3rd brake light in the rear spoiler . . . nicely integrated! I almost hate to say it but kind of disappointed with all the CF on your camaro after seeing your metal working skills. :D Nice updates and looking forward to seeing this one in person some day as a fellow Texan.

Thank you. No worries, carbon cuts and grinds easier then metal lol. I will say though, I think I'd find it easier to cut up metal than the carbon. Easier to fix if I mess up for me. Maybe not when I learn more about working it.

[CamaroAJ]

I've been working on the car more than pictures show and taking care of a few non car related things along with a problem with Anvil's warped deck lid. They are gonna make it right so I'm able to cross that problem off my list.

I got the vintage air mock up case mounted. It fit better with the modified firewall than I thought it would.
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I've sanded about 90% of the EDP coating off the car.
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I also picked up Marquez Design door panels from a fellow Lat-g member. They for sure need some work to fit right.
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Hopefully I'll get more done this week. I feel like I'm stalled and not getting anything done.

[CamaroAJ]

So I figure out very quickly that I need all the windows and hardware to fit the door panels. So now that's in a holding pattern waiting on parts. I did check fitment with a seat though and everything fits close, but won't require and mods.

I did get started on a raised floor toe board though to hide my InfinityBox power modules. With the seats set back to match the engine set back it left a ton of foot room, so I'm not losing anything in this area. Plus it helps move weight lower in the car and is easy to get to if I need access to the fuses.

Start with cardboard to see how it looks and check clearance to the HVAC.
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With it fit pretty good I went ahead and cut it in metal and rechecked the room behind it for the modules
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As I was pretty happy with the additional room I went ahead and cut a hole cover and bead rolled it. Now I need to build a frame to mount it to, mount the modules, and build a top enclosure to the firewall.
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[Jafa]

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Great build so far!! I really like and appreciate your metal working skills, and thanks for taking the time to show us "as you go" photos so we can see and learn how to achieve things like the flush glass, bumper fitting etc. You are exceptional with the bead roller too, I am jealous of your fabrication skills.

Those car lifts in the pic, what brand / model are they? They look good for someone that doesn't have the head height for a traditional 2 post lift. Do you know how deep the hole in the ground has to be to install them?

Keep up the great work!

[CamaroAJ]

Great build so far!! I really like and appreciate your metal working skills, and thanks for taking the time to show us "as you go" photos so we can see and learn how to achieve things like the flush glass, bumper fitting etc. You are exceptional with the bead roller too, I am jealous of your fabrication skills.

Those car lifts in the pic, what brand / model are they? They look good for someone that doesn't have the head height for a traditional 2 post lift. Do you know how deep the hole in the ground has to be to install them?

Keep up the great work!

Thank you.

The lifts are made by Rotary. They go about 10' into the ground and go up a little higher than normal above ground lifts. They are also a lot more expensive than normal above ground lifts, somewhere in the $7-8k range. I work for a Cadillac dealer and they let me work on the car here, other wise I'd be on jack stands just like everyone else.

[DannyZ]

I think it is an amazing build and love your skills. I do have one thing that I'm having trouble with and it's the rear bumper. I think it looks too big for the lines of the car but that's just me, and it might grow on me, sorry not trying to dis your ride at all, it's fantastic!!

[CamaroAJ]

I think it is an amazing build and love your skills. I do have one thing that I'm having trouble with and it's the rear bumper. I think it looks too big for the lines of the car but that's just me, and it might grow on me, sorry not trying to dis your ride at all, it's fantastic!!


Thank you.

It's just the way it looks in pictures. In person it's smaller. Also once it's pained black and the body is blue I think it will blend more and seem more integrated. This isn't a great angle, but its a little farther back.
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[DannyZ]

I agree that being black will make a big difference in the look. Is the receiver hitch tube for strapping the car down or? Also, what cost will you have using that wiring system, I was looking into it but I thought it was about 4 times the cost of others out there?? And do you like it?

[CamaroAJ]

It's to pull a trailer with. One of those small trailers that a set of 4 slicks can fit on for track days and autocross.

I think I have somewhere around $3k in the InfinityBox set up. Yes it cost a lot more than other systems, but I liked what I could do with it such as the load limit shut off of the inMotion control and the iPad integration. Its pretty much endless possibilities to what you can control with it.

[DannyZ]

The trailer is what I thought, good idea....

[CamaroAJ]

Small update as I haven't done much with the car. Worked a deal with a friend for some parts I want which means big changes are coming to the car very soon and I'll have quite a few parts listed for sale too.

As I'm running modern door latches I found stock door handles won't work with them. After a lot of thinking about it I decided to go with electric handles and vette latches. I settled on the Lokar handles, but needed finger pockets.

To make the finger pockets I cut some MDF to the shape I wanted then started to pound out some metal.
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After I got it roughed out I smoothed everything out with the planishing hammer and made the lines a little more crisp with the bead roller.
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I think they'll look perfect with the overall look of this car.
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[frankv11]

I like watching your fab skills , very nice

[dhutton]

Great to see you back on it.

Don

[waynieZ]

Wow nice job!

[XLexusTech]

That's flipping awesome .... :king:

[Mikael A]

So cool.

[CamaroAJ]

Thanks guys, I'm pretty happy with how they came out. I think I'm going to hold off on cutting the doors until I get an English wheel so I can make sure I have the right slight curve in the metal.

I'm looking forward to starting on the new changes. :superhack:

[CamaroAJ]

I like watching your fab skills , very nice

I saw your hood vents, I feel the same seeing your skills.

[waynieZ]

You both have amazing talent!

[syborg tt]

Very nice and I can't wait to see what you do next.

[CamaroAJ]

Very nice and I can't wait to see what you do next.

Thanks, Its going to be what everyone told me not to do lol.

[syborg tt]

Thanks, Its going to be what everyone told me not to do lol.

Ha Ha I completely understand :thumbsup:

[CamaroAJ]

A little more fitting then it will be ready to weld in. I'm way happy with how these look on the car.

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[MtotheIKEo]

Maybe I missed it but what is the plan with the door handles? Did you say you're using the vette setup? Is it capacitive or do you actually pull on the handle to open it? That does look really good on there.

[CamaroAJ]

Maybe I missed it but what is the plan with the door handles? Did you say you're using the vette setup? Is it capacitive or do you actually pull on the handle to open it? That does look really good on there.

Thank you.

Yes I'll be using vette latches as they are 12v and use a cable back up. Vettes have two cables on the driver latch, one in the foot well and one in the trunk in case the battery dies you can still open the door to pop the hood. My currant plan is to use the 12v latches on the outside and a cable on the inside. I'm going to use one cable on the door lock so I can just use a key to open the door if the battery dies or the latch were to fail.

[CamaroAJ]

I need to do a little hammer and dolly work, but the driver side is done other than that. These came out better than I thought they would. Hopefully I'll be able to get the passenger side done this week as well.

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[dhutton]

You make it look easy but I know from past attempts it is not...

Don

[syborg tt]

Very nice


Marty-MJ

[CamaroAJ]

Thanks guys.

[waynieZ]

Beautiful job AJ.

[Centerforce]

We're loving the creativity and out-of-the-box thinking here. Its easy to throw together a build using parts that are readily available, but true dedication to make something completely custom and unique!

[CamaroAJ]

Thanks guys, lots of cutting coming soon. I did some rough measurements and I think what I'm planning just might work out like I hoped it would.

[FlameBroiled]

We're loving the creativity and out-of-the-box thinking here. Its easy to throw together a build using parts that are readily available, but true dedication to make something completely custom and unique!



We need a like Button :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[CamaroAJ]

Work was slow yesterday so I had some time to finish the passenger door handle. It too needs some hammer and dolly work, but it's mostly there.
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Then I got the oil tank area cleaned up and ready to fit the tank in once I order it.
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Then I finished removing the EDP coating from the door

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That's all for now. Hopefully going to pick up some new to me suspension today so I can start getting that handled.

[CamaroAJ]

Long story short, when I started this project originally I had something specific in mind. Basically I let people talk me out of what I wanted and into some choices I didn't really want when it came to my car. So after debating a lot about things with cost and how much of a set back it is, I decided that I can always make more money and I'd rather be happy in the end instead of regretfull.

So, here we go, starting all over with the suspension.

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A friend of mine wanted my speedtech front clip and as luck would have it, he had the full front and rear suspension, transaxle, torque tube, and a bunch of other parts from a '04 C5 Z06. We made a deal in which we both came out ahead and I got a little extra cash to help offset materials cost for the mods.

Now for the measurements, they are really close. As in borderline it might be possible to not cut suspension or outer body panels with a custom offset wheel. I'll be calling forgeline Monday to see how close I can get. This is where the stock offset wheels sit. They need to move in about 1.5"

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0675.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0675.jpg.html)

This is just a rough setup to get some measurements off of while I wait for the stock vette rear frame to show up. Based off a XLR we had at work I got some measurements off of, the outside to outside frame rail is 10" to wide to use in my car. However the inside to inside measurement does indeed fit inside the stock '69 outer rockers so I'd be able to run 2x3 or possibly 2x4 square tube in the rocker and use stock C5 fuel tanks as well. More to come on that as I get the car braced up, a frame jig built, and more cut out of the car.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0676.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0676.jpg.html)

[Beechy]

Nice work on the new concept.........subscribed....:popcorn2:

[frankv11]

Can't wait to see the updates

[Dr. Jekyll]

Really neat to see all the mods coming through!

[extralight]

Awesome work! Can't wait to see the new suspension go it.

[CamaroAJ]

Thanks guys, this is going to a lot of work and I'm just sick enough to be looking forward to it lol.

[CamaroAJ]

So not a lot has been going on with the car. I've been getting things lined up in order to make this happen. I picked up a wrecked C5Z and dropped it off to get the frame back in check. This takes care of my fuel system, suspension mount points, some of the firewall, and trans tunnel.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0706.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0706.jpg.html)

While it's at the body shop I decided on Anvil carbon mirrors.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0705.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0705.jpg.html)

And then I started seeing if power mirror motors will fit. Going to be tight, but should work.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0704.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0704.jpg.html)

Last night I did some really rough mock up. And I mean really rough lol

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0702.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0702.jpg.html)

It's going to be really really close without cutting metal

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0701.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0701.jpg.html)

Today I built a frame jig that I could use to keep the car mobile, hold it from moving around and be able to mount brackets to help hold the new suspension in place. I still have some more body brackets to attach, but I got the harder stuff stuff done.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0700.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0700.jpg.html)

[AB69Z]

What are you using for the power mirrors motors and ect...

[CamaroAJ]

5th gen Camaro mirror motors then I'll just order replacement 2nd gen Camaro mirror glass.

[Efi69Cam]

5th gen Camaro mirror motors then I'll just order replacement 2nd gen Camaro mirror glass.

How are you going to mount the mirror motor to the housing? I've been working on a similar project with 4th gen motors in stock 70 camaro mirrors like what V8TV did.

I'd think that someone would offer a 2nd gen style mirror in power by now.

[Mikael A]

sooo bad a$$

[CamaroAJ]

How are you going to mount the mirror motor to the housing? I've been working on a similar project with 4th gen motors in stock 70 camaro mirrors like what V8TV did.

I'd think that someone would offer a 2nd gen style mirror in power by now.

I don't know yet. I have a set of 5th gen mirrors I'm gonna cut up to try and make it a bolt together deal.

sooo bad a$$

Thank you:thumbsup:

[waynieZ]

This is going to be interesting watching this go together. I love the mirrors in Carbon fiber. I hope it works out.

[CamaroAJ]

This is going to be interesting watching this go together. I love the mirrors in Carbon fiber. I hope it works out.

It will always work out. How its planned to work out and how in the end it works out maybe different. With a tape measure so far most of it is going to work, the rest I won't know until I get the frame under the car to measure more. Lots of cutting to take place tonight though lol.

[CamaroAJ]

Not much of an update because dismantling a corvette takes time apparently. :superhack:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0712.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0712.jpg.html)

In other news, Kris Horton got my new update done on Temper 2.0, I'm pretty happy about it.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0710.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0710.jpg.html)

[Mikael A]

daaaamn thats hot.

[CamaroAJ]

daaaamn thats hot.

Thanks, that's the same thing I said when I saw it lol.

[Build-It-Break-it]

That's a killer rendering. I love that blue to.

[syborg tt]

That's a killer rendering. I love that blue to.

ya what he said but I will holy **** that's a great rendering.

[waynieZ]

Sweet! I love that back end!!

[CamaroAJ]

Thanks guys. The more I look at the render and think about how it's going to be when done the more I want to drive it. :drive:

[AB69Z]

Are you planning to do that roof recess detail?

[CamaroAJ]

Are you planning to do that roof recess detail?

Yes, I had been thinking about doing it since I bought a Z/28 and wasn't sure if I'd like it and then the Roadster Shop beat me to the punch.

[Josh@Ridetech]

I love the renderings, the color, everything is awesome! I can't wait to see it come together.

[CamaroAJ]

I love the renderings, the color, everything is awesome! I can't wait to see it come together.

Thanks, it'd be even cooler with some Ridetech C5 suspension components on it :whistling: :yes:

Since the front of the first frame was trashed and I needed to increase my wheel base 3.5" I picked another frame.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0210.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0210.jpg.html)

I got the first frame measured out and rough cut.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0231.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0231.jpg.html)

We were closed this weekend and I didn't have to work today so Friday evening I set things up for operation.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0269.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0269.jpg.html)

I got the cut line from the other chassis transferred over and the 3.5" added after a ton of measurements from about 15 different points that are in the same locations on both chassis.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0296.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0296.jpg.html)

After a lot of cutting, measuring, clamps, tack welds, and more measurements I now have a longer frame that's within 1/16" of square and the new 108" wheel base. Lots more stripping to do before it's ready for the new outer frame rails and to fit up in the Camaro.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0299.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0299.jpg.html)

[waynieZ]

Looking Sweet AJ. I can't even imagine the measuring it took to get it that close. Nice work.

[CamaroAJ]

Looking Sweet AJ. I can't even imagine the measuring it took to get it that close. Nice work.

Thanks, Wayne. The trick to it was holding your tongue right lol.

[desids]

In other news, Kris Horton got my new update done on Temper 2.0, I'm pretty happy about it.

Holy crap! That rendering is bad ass! Stance, color, everything - just wow.

[CamaroAJ]

So I've been working on the corvette frame to get it ready to meet its new home to the point I don't want to cut anymore until I get them side by side so I can make sure all my measurements are correct. This is where the vette frame is at, both "A" pillars are cut off and the toe boards are prepped for a new firewall once it's in the body. Cut off the battery support and some other random stuff that I don't need and is in the way.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0346.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0346.jpg.html)

I swapped out the frame for the Camaro as they only let me keep one car at a time at work and continued rough cutting and getting stuff ready for fitment. It's a huge pain in the butt because I had a trailer hitch welded in, but I've got most of the trunk floor out.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0400.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0400.jpg.html)

So the floor boards on a vette frame come in at 53" wide. Add 4" for frame rails and that puts me at 57" wide to try and fit into a Camaro.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0411.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0411.jpg.html)

With the help of my plasma cutter I removed a good section of the inner rocker and a little bit of the outer rocker. And then measured some more. From my measurements I've found that I can fit a modified 2x4" box tube into the rockers. It will be cut so it's still 2" on the top side, but 1/2" on the bottom side and a new section welded in. While I feel not as strong as the original hydroformed vette frame rails, I'm pretty sure it's stronger than sheet metal rockers, and with the cage, way stronger than a stock '69 Camaro ever was.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0415.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0415.jpg.html)

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0416.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0416.jpg.html)

Last on this round of updates is the front view of the rendering. Kris Horton gave me some wheel color options to see how I liked a few that I was thinking about.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0355.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0355.jpg.html)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0352.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0352.jpg.html)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0356.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0356.jpg.html)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0353.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0353.jpg.html)

And the ones I decided on, smoked clear polished.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0354.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0354.jpg.html)

Back to work on it tomorrow :superhack:

[rickpaw]

The Camaro is going to be bad a$$. Love the rendering.

What part of San Antonio are you in? I'm in Houston, but drive to SA once a month for the weekend.

[CamaroAJ]

The Camaro is going to be bad a$$. Love the rendering.

What part of San Antonio are you in? I'm in Houston, but drive to SA once a month for the weekend.

Thanks, hopefully sooner than later it will be done.

The north east side. 1604/35 area by the Forum.

[CamaroAJ]

Slow but steady progress on the car. Today I finished up the welding and grinding on the second frame rail. I used 2x4" 1/8" square tube and cut the bottom and part of the side and reboxed it in with flat 1/8" strap. This let me use 4" instead of 3" and should be just as strong if not stronger than the factory Corvette frame once it's welded into the factory Corvette frame, what's left of the rockers, and the roll cage.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0518.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0518.jpg.html)

And a test fit with a test piece. Fits like a glove. I'll also still be able to use the factory style door stills too.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0517.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0517.jpg.html)d

And more cutting of the old inner rocker. That's what takes the most time, getting everything cut right as to not mess up the stuff I need to save.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0519.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0519.jpg.html)

[Bakaruda]

I for one LOVE THIS THING! This from a guy who is not crazy about a 69 Camaro.

:king:

[waynieZ]

AJ I was just reading this and thought back to when you cut the firewall to set the motor back, You've Come A Long Way Baby! Nice Work.

[CamaroAJ]

Thanks guys.

Wayne, the cars transformed a ton. It seemed like I was taking steps back instead of forward, but I'm much happier with this setup and actually excited to get it done now.

[rustomatic]

It's great seeing someone with skills do the Vulcan car-meld. I just wish you'd done this a couple years ago . . .

It's funny how similar the C5 parts/chassis you're showing look to the C4 stuff I chopped the crud out of. In the beginning, it's like yeah, I can use this and this and this, but no. Chop, cut, change materials. Stock (Corvette) floors and firewall are so scary and cheap--talk to a firefighter/rescue person about this. It's the application of new sheetmetal that's a real blast, once you've got that frame in there. Yours will undoubtedly look far less like sight-impaired surgery training than mine.

Again, seeing your skills put to work at this is great. You'll undoubtedly like the Corvette car dynamics considerably more than the older-school stuff you removed. Additionally, the idea of replacement parts down the road becomes much simpler . . .

Keep at it!

[CamaroAJ]

It's great seeing someone with skills do the Vulcan car-meld. I just wish you'd done this a couple years ago . . .

Again, seeing your skills put to work at this is great. You'll undoubtedly like the Corvette car dynamics considerably more than the older-school stuff you removed. Additionally, the idea of replacement parts down the road becomes much simpler . . .

Keep at it!


Thank you for the positive feedback. This was my original build intention, but when I started doing the research on it everyone says it's impossible and talked me out of it. Actually they still kinda do or they say I'll never get it done because it's more involved than anyone thinks. I also plan on keeping the fiberglass/balsa wood floors. The weight and strength win out for me. The firewall will for sure be metal and I already have a few ideas for it. I am intending a fire suppression system though, just in case.

As to the handling of the car, I've owned a few vettes and I've driven hundreds of them. So I should get exactly what I'm looking for, modern vette performance with the old school muscle car vibe. Like a wolf in sheep clothing lol.

[Zoomin]

Four wheeled awesomeness. :thumbsup:

Picking colors is always tough but those red wheels with a white stripe on the body would be Grand Sport killer.

[CamaroAJ]

I got some more cutting done this weekend and then tested the frame rails. I have a little more cutting to do in the trunk then I'm going to send the car out for soda blasting and epoxy while I weld the new frame rails to the vette frame. Any who, the frame rails fit exactly how I thought they would and are exactly the width I needed.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0564.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0564.jpg.html)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0566.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0566.jpg.html)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0565.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0565.jpg.html)

[desids]

Wow much more involved than I thought. Very cool - go for it.

[Sonar Chief]

Oustanding fab skills there! You gotta love it when a plan comes together, keep it up!

Michael

[CamaroAJ]

Thanks guys. I'm hoping to get the body finished up on the removal of stuff I don't need on it this week and start on the frame Saturday. I'm thinking about dropping off the body at the soda blaster to get it down to metal and shoot it with epoxy so that's one less thing to worry about.

I also have an engine plan in the works that I just kinda fell into. Not what I wanted, but it will workout just fine.

[CamaroAJ]

After trying to get one of these superchargers from work for months I finally was able to get ahold of one. I'm taking a more budget, although still expensive, friendly approach to my engine.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0599.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0599.jpg.html)

It lasted about 15 minutes before I had it torn down and started blue printing it for port work and ordered a solid coupler to fix the noise.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0608.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0608.jpg.html)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0615.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0615.jpg.html)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0616.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0616.jpg.html)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0614.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0614.jpg.html)

So far I have about 3 hours into porting it. I have one bank done and I'm about half done with the other bank. This is the main area that needs all the work. Lots of hogging out done so far.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0659_1.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0659_1.jpg.html)

Today I got a good start on the frame rails until I ran out of welding wire. The passenger side is in, fish plates from the backside then reformed the vette frame to better fit the new rails. Hopefully I'll be able to get the rear section finished in the next week or so.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0674_1.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0674_1.jpg.html)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0673.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0673.jpg.html)

I also dropped the car off at the soda blaster. It should be done in about 2 weeks.

[Centerforce]

Wow, you got CLOSE to that bolt hole. It must have been a little stressful porting around that part. :brix:

[CamaroAJ]

Wow, you got CLOSE to that bolt hole. It must have been a little stressful porting around that part. :brix:

It was a little bit. There is a few shops that really hog these things out and remove that bolt hole completely and fill it with epoxy. I think this should be enough air flow fo what I'm doing though:Tomcat:

[waynieZ]

Go get um AJ, I would love to get mine ported - but I haven't even heard it run yet lol That should flow some air.

[frankv11]

huge progress on it. a TON of work sure.

[CamaroAJ]

Thanks Frank, for sure a lot of work.

Saturday I got the drive side frame rail measured, supported, cut out, the new one welded in, and the front section finished up.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/DR%20CUT.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/DR%20CUT.jpg.html)

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/DR%20RAIL.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/DR%20RAIL.jpg.html)

Kris Horton also finished up the front of the car with some new software. For sure looks like a real car, hopefully the real thing looks as good.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/AJMeadeCamaro_FrontRoad.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/AJMeadeCamaro_FrontRoad.jpg.html)

I also got the body back from the soda blaster, but I forgot to get pictures so that will have to wait until I take the frame to the blaster and drop the car off back at work.

[Zoomin]

Wow - lots of subtle changes on that one that make it fresh without losing the appeal of the original.

[dhutton]

I know you are doing all the fab but maybe there are some ideas here you can use:
http://rick486.wixsite.com/dobbertinperformance

Don

[nicks67ca]

Wow love the new rendering.

[syborg tt]

Nice update and looking forward to seeing more.

[CamaroAJ]

I know you are doing all the fab but maybe there are some ideas here you can use:
http://rick486.wixsite.com/dobbertinperformance

Don

I came across their stuff when I was looking into doing this swap a few months ago. Really cool stuff that would be super helpful in the future. I'd love to use it on a C10 project when I get this car done.

Wow love the new rendering.

Thank you.

[CamaroAJ]

I finished up the driver frame rail finally. After that I started working on the close out panels for the fuel tank areas. Factory Corvettes are finished off with seam sealer around all the gaps. I'm thinking I'll make the gaps tighter then seam seal everything after it gets back from the blaster and I weld the panels on.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0873.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0873.jpg.html)

I also got pictures on the Camaro after soda blasting and sealer.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0872.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0872.jpg.html)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0870.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0870.jpg.html)

Still a lot to do before I take the frame in to get blasted. Hoping to have it done in the next few weeks.

[CamaroAJ]

I finished up the fuel tank close out panels and decided to keep them like the stock corvette stuff was, spot welds and seam sealer. Once it's all welded in the car no one will see any of it and then it will be coated in lizard skin to kill sound. I made the passenger panel from scratch and ordered a 1/2" bead to match the driver side. Didn't get to work on the car this weekend, but it's getting closer to sending out to the blaster.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0931.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0931.jpg.html)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0932.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0932.jpg.html)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0933.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0933.jpg.html)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_0938.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_0938.jpg.html)

[Mikael A]

Man that is sure one nice and clean body.

[CamaroAJ]

Man that is sure one nice and clean body.

White always makes things look good.

[Chevelle LT1]

Hi AJ -

I have enjoyed following the tales of your car, originally on P-T and now over here, and appreciate you posting up the many twists and turns. Admittedly your current plan has me thinking about a Cougar project I have sitting in the garage. Since I would love to do the same as you, but am also width constrained, I'd like to confirm your process for this: best I can tell you are just cutting off the outboard rails as needed and then reducing the width to fit the new rails that install at the rockers? Also, outside of the fuel tank end caps and the obvious suspension width have you run into any other unforeseen challenges?

I appreciate your feedback, and have definitely got the bug after seeing this thread.

Thanks again

~ Jason

[CamaroAJ]

Hi AJ -

I have enjoyed following the tales of your car, originally on P-T and now over here, and appreciate you posting up the many twists and turns. Admittedly your current plan has me thinking about a Cougar project I have sitting in the garage. Since I would love to do the same as you, but am also width constrained, I'd like to confirm your process for this: best I can tell you are just cutting off the outboard rails as needed and then reducing the width to fit the new rails that install at the rockers? Also, outside of the fuel tank end caps and the obvious suspension width have you run into any other unforeseen challenges?

I appreciate your feedback, and have definitely got the bug after seeing this thread.

Thanks again

~ Jason

The only reason I don't have a thread on PT is because I do everything from my iPad and I haven't figured out how to get the pictures to post on there from it, so I gave up.

Let me start with this, I dropped the frame off at the blaster on Friday. I'm hoping to have it back this week and start to put the frame into the car Friday night and get it locked in on Saturday. You'll have to keep an eye on the thread to see how things fit because I'll be finding out how they will at the same time. I'll post an update maybe tonight of where I'm at with things.

So the outer frame rails are kinda easy to explain. The width of the vette frame was something like 62" outside to outside and if you measure the lower pinch weld where the floor pan meets the rockers its only 47" wide. I did a lot of measuring and found that where the inner rocker meets the outer rocker on the top side is roughly 53" and is the same width as the inside frame rail to inside frame rail on the vette. I came to the conclusion that I could keep all the factory body lines if I was able to narrow the vette frame rails down to 57" outside to outside. That gave me the 53" inside to inside that fits inside the Camaro outer rockers. I did to a lot of cutting to the rockers at the front and rear, which will all be welded to the new frame rails.

I did go from a little over 5" thick frame rail down to a 3" frame rail. I think that with how thick the metal on the Camaro outer rocker is added to the 2x3" .125 thick frame rail on a unibody car I think I'm going to be just as strong if not stronger than the C5 frame alone. Then add the cage I plan on putting in it and I should be more than good. Also since I didn't need to narrow the insides of the frame rails I'm able to retain the C5 fuel system with just a fuel filler relocation. I'm planning on running a "T" in the cross over pipe to the fuel fill cap.

There is only so much I can measure without the two parts side by side. I know I'm close enough width wise between the two to cut this all apart and try it though. The thing I have going for me is the over all width of a 1969 Camaro is 74" and a C5 Z06 is 73.8" or something close to that. So I "Should" be able to be really close with a custom offset wheel and minor body mods. I'll know really soon how much of a body mod I'm going to need.

[WSSix]

You're coming along nicely, AJ. The updated rendering is nice. I'm glad you're keeping the exposed headlights. It just looks right. I think the hidden lights would look like something's missing. The blue is what really has me stoked. I hope you're able to get the blue to pop like that in real life. Good luck putting the body on the frame.

[CamaroAJ]

You're coming along nicely, AJ. The updated rendering is nice. I'm glad you're keeping the exposed headlights. It just looks right. I think the hidden lights would look like something's missing. The blue is what really has me stoked. I hope you're able to get the blue to pop like that in real life. Good luck putting the body on the frame.

Thanks. The blue is easy, it's a factory GM C5 vette color that I know everyone's seen before and I've always liked. I like the open headlights on '69's myself too. Plus I'm looking to save weight so that helps.

[waynieZ]

It's looking really good AJ, I'll be watching for your next update. Nice work on the close outs.

[Chevelle LT1]

Many thanks for the reply and more detailed description. I think this will also be the plan of attack for my ride, and (preemptively) thank you for any additional information not you post through your project.

Jason

[DanielBurko]

Nice work going into that car. Wow. Very impressive!

[CamaroAJ]

Nice work going into that car. Wow. Very impressive!

Thank you.

I went and picked the frame up from the blaster at lunch today and the two met each others for the first time.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_1124.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_1124.jpg.html)

Well 4 guys and about 30 min later with minor cutting the frame fits! Saturday I'll bolt the front fenders, front suspension, and rear suspension on to get the frame square in the body and lined up in the wheel wells. It's going to be low, frame is set at 5.5" of ground clearance!
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_1126.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_1126.jpg.html)
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[Zoomin]

OO

Snice!!!

[CamaroAJ]

OO

Snice!!!

Thanks bud:thumbsup:

[rustomatic]

The real work begins after the wedding . . . :popcorn2:

[CamaroAJ]

Lots of work got done Saturday on the car. First step was to get the suspension, and front fenders installed for measuring and then just that, lots and lots of measuring, adjusting, and clamping. After a few hours of getting things aligned I was able to weld to rockers to the frame. and see how the car looks as a whole piece again. Onward to pictures!

Needless to say there is going to be some cutting of the frame ends involved.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_1145.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_1145.jpg.html)

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_1146.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_1146.jpg.html)

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Stock 17x9 C5 Z06 wheel to check measurements. With a custom offset wheel I should be good on my clearances in the front.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_1147.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_1147.jpg.html)

And even with 5.5" of ground clearance I still have a good amount of height on the front to clear speed bumps

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_1148.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_1148.jpg.html)

Frame welded to the rockers and supporting most of its self

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_1149.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_1149.jpg.html)

I also got a start on the defuser layout.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_1151.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_1151.jpg.html)

[Build-It-Break-it]

Awesome job. Your making it look easy.

[Josh@Ridetech]

Looks great!

[waynieZ]

Amazing work AJ. I have trouble cutting a 2x4 to an exact measurement. I always look forward to your updates, keep them coming!

[CamaroAJ]

Awesome job. Your making it look easy.

Looks great!

Amazing work AJ. I have trouble cutting a 2x4 to an exact measurement. I always look forward to your updates, keep them coming!

Thanks guys, I appreciate it.

[CamaroAJ]

I got back to work on the car on Saturday. It really sucks now only being able to work on the car every other Saturday since I can't keep it at work anymore. So to check some clearances I put the block and supercharger in. The supercharger needs to move back about 2", but as you can see its already hitting the firewall.

So while I thought about how I want to handle this problem I went ahead and mounted the pedals, brake booster, and column along with the stock C5 dash frame work to get an idea of what kind of dash I can run. Now with two road blocks in my way I turned to the rear frame so that I can get the rear body mounted to the frame so it can come off the jig. I decided to tie the frame rails together since I cut off a large chunk of frame and marked it to where the floor height needs to be. I'm ordering some 2x4 frame rails bent 90 degrees the hard way so I can run jogs out to where the factory first gen Camaro frame rails mounted to the body. I think that about covers it for this go around of updates, on to the pictures.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/IMG_1241.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/IMG_1241.jpg.html)
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[CamaroAJ]

I've finally got a chance to work on the car after about two months of not, which really sucked. I've been thinking about park lamps and turn signals on the car for sometime and I decided to steal this idea from DSE. I used the lenses out of a camper pouch lamp. and cut it down to size.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/LAMP.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/LAMP.jpg.html)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/PASSGRILLE.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/PASSGRILLE.jpg.html)
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Saturday I was able to get a good start on my frame to body rails. I wanted to run the rails to the stock Camaro location and ended up with these. I started with two 90* hard way 2x4" pieces of tubing from Art Morrison. I ran out of time to get the driver side done so that will have to be another day. The passenger side is gusseted on the bottom to tie the cross rail, Corvette frame and the new rails all together.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/CamaroAJ/69%20camaro/DRIVERRAIL.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/CamaroAJ/media/69%20camaro/DRIVERRAIL.jpg.html)
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Hopefully more work on it gets done in two weeks.

[CamaroAJ]

Well I lost my shop space to be able to work on my car so I don't know when I'll be able to find somewhere to work on it or where. Maybe someday the car will get done. I went ahead and finished welding the frame rails to the body and supporting the trunk supports so I could take the car off the frame rack to get more room in my trailer. It looks pretty good on the ground, this is the first time its been on its on feet with this configuration. rocker height currently is 5 3/4".

[Zoomin]

It does look great on the ground - once you get past the wheels! :lol:

Too bad about losing the shop space, as changing in the middle of a build has to be a major hassle. Plus it looks like you had Grade A space.

[waynieZ]

[QUOTE=Zoomin;662383]It does look great on the ground - once you get past the wheels! :lol:


I'm so impressed I didn't even notice the wheels! lol

Wow big step forward.
I hope you find a new space soon.

[dhutton]

These guys might have space :idea: :

http://www.jefflilly.com/career-opportunity/

Don

[CamaroAJ]

It does look great on the ground - once you get past the wheels! :lol:

Too bad about losing the shop space, as changing in the middle of a build has to be a major hassle. Plus it looks like you had Grade A space.

It was, the shop has A/C and all my tools are here.

[QUOTE=Zoomin;662383]It does look great on the ground - once you get past the wheels! :lol:


I'm so impressed I didn't even notice the wheels! lol

Wow big step forward.
I hope you find a new space soon.

Thanks, I'm hoping I can too so I can put my bead roller to use with some sheet metal work.

These guys might have space :idea: :

http://www.jefflilly.com/career-opportunity/

Don

I wish I could afford the pay cut to build cars instead of fix them, that would be awesome.

[rustomatic]

I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say that somebody from this community is going to chime in and say "hey, Camaro AJ, I wouldn't mind having you manipulate your metal in my indoor real estate, and I'm not too far down the road, Bro." That might sound kind of weird, but hey, there's help here when you need it. This project's too cool to get killed at this point!

[CamaroAJ]

Not much of an update as I still have no where to work on my car. I did score a LSA core that has a spun #1 rod bearing. A dealer in Houston replaced an oil pan gasket on it and used RTV all the way around the pan. It made it to San Antonio before the oil pick up clogged and starved the #1 rod of oil. I’ll post some build pictures of that as I go along. It’s going to be a mild build, stock rods and pistons, LS3 dry sump crankshaft, cam, pulleys, and a ported blower using an LS9 snout. Shooting for around 700 flywheel hp, pretty easily attainable.

[waynieZ]

Nice find. I hope a space becomes available so you can get back to it.

[nicks67ca]

nice score on the LSA. 700 crank should be really easy especially with the ls9 snout and the porting you already done.

[CamaroAJ]

I think so as well and it should still have nice drive-ability since its nothing to crazy.

[CamaroAJ]

Not much of an update, but any progress is better than none I guess. Guy had a C6 dash for cheap local so I got it and went over to my trailer and test fit it in the car. It fits way better than I thought it would with just taking measurements from a C6 in a parking lot. I think its going to look really good in the car once its done and the center console modified for my needs. I also started collecting the rest of the dash parts I need to make it complete.

[CamaroAJ]

So its been a long time since I've been able to work on my car. Since it doesn't look like it will be any time soon still I've decided to try and knock out the small stuff in the mean time so that way I'm still closer to getting the car done and it's stuff that needs done anyways that I can do without the car.

As I'm putting a C6 dash in my car I bought a cluster and some of the trim panels for it. Since I have Speedhut gauges for it and the factory C6 stuff won't work for me I set off modifying it to work with my needs. First off I fiber glassed in the stock holes that I won't need to prep it for the right size holes that I will need. I also though since I need to fit more gauges that planned since I went to a supercharger engine I though what better place then were the factory buttons were. So I fiber glassed those holes in too. I then fit in PVC pipe as its the perfect size for gauges, used some expanding foam then formed it to the shape I wanted before fiber glassing all that in and starting on the body filler side of things.

In the cluster area I cut out and scrapped all the guts and then fitted a lexan lens to lay out my gauges. The two lowest gauges will be fitted at an angle to match the C6 gauge layout. Once I have the angles set I'll fiber glass everything together and do a carbon fiber over lay.

Hopefully I'll be able to continue knocking out small projects regularly. I'm also working on new LED tail lamps. Pictures to come later on that one when they are closer to being done.

[GregWeld]

Nice work!!!!

[Haulnaz]

wow.... thats all i can say

[waynieZ]

Damn that's looking good!

[johnnymac46]

looking good! I like the Dash work.

[CamaroAJ]

Thanks guys.

I messed around with it a little bit last night and ended up with the lower two gauges angled like the C6 gauges were. I have a few giant washers on order from McMaster so I can start the glass work on it. I'm pretty happy with how they've turned out so far.

[98ssnova]

Very nice install. Like the layout!

[waynieZ]

I definitely like what your doing, nice work.

[CamaroAJ]

Thanks Waynie.

I got a good amount done today between the cluster and working on my tail lights again. For the cluster last night I stretched a T shirt over the housing and held things down with some washers then applied some resin. Today I body worked it and started some high build primer before I lay some carbon on it. I have a voltmeter and a boost gauge on order, I'll end up with the boost gauge in the A pillar. I'm pretty happy with how this has come out so far and look forward to seeing it in the car.

[Ricochet]

Some how missed this build.... Just chewed through it all.... Amazing build you have going on. Keep up the great work!

[CamaroAJ]

Some how missed this build.... Just chewed through it all.... Amazing build you have going on. Keep up the great work!

Thanks man. hoping to keep chipping away at it.

[CamaroAJ]

Version 1.0 of my cluster laying out carbon fiber overlay came out pretty good (pic 1) I however encountered a lifting problem when I started to apply the epoxy and I just couldn't fix it. I pulled all the carbon off and while trying to figure if I should attempt to get the wet epoxy off now or let it dry and sand it down I came to the conclusion that since carbon fabric is relatively cheap that I would let the epoxy tack up and then throw a fresh piece of carbon at it and start from the bottom and work up. This turned out to be successful (pic 2). Tonight after work I'll start the coating process again, this time with a for sure good bond to the housing.

[68MaroSam]

That is some really creative and nice work you are doing. Thanks for sharing the experience with us.

[waynieZ]

Too bad you don't know someone with a vacuum table. Nice work you'll get it.

[CamaroAJ]

Too bad you don't know someone with a vacuum table. Nice work you'll get it.

Thank you. I have a vacuum pump for infusion, but I don't know if you can get a smooth finish if I vacuum bag it. Last night I remembered I wanted to do the vacuum table and heated lexan to mold the housing, maybe I'll get to try it on something else in the car.

[CamaroAJ]

Spent some of Friday night wet sanding after the second coat of epoxy cured. I just put the last coat on it and when that cures I'm ready for a matte clear and it will be finished and ready for my gauges. I'm seriously impressed with how this is coming out being my first carbon experience.

[waynieZ]

It looks great, I can't wait to see it with the next coat on it.

[CamaroAJ]

While working on the cluster at home at work I've been working on the bezel. After getting it sanded and painted I got the pods wrapped in carbon then trimmed. After that I got the bottom wrapped in carbon. The cluster opening I'm going to paint black to offset all the carbon. After the second coat of epoxy I sanded it, trimmed it, and cut the holes for the starter button and gauge dimmer. Also my LS9 accessory drive showed up.

[waynieZ]

Damn great job!

[Spiffav8]

Damn great job!

Right! That looks pretty slick! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[CamaroAJ]

Thanks guys. Last night I put the last coat of epoxy on. I also added a little factory style detail to the gauge dimmer. This morning I hit it with some 320 real fast just to see how it will wet sand out and its going to look real good. Goal for the weekend and to get this and the cluster wet sanded so I can try and get them to paint next week. Going for a matte clear to match the door stills and not have a lot of sun reflection when driving.

[CamaroAJ]

Friday I had to pull the trailer to work so I could get it inspected. While I had it at the shop I put the dash bezel in it quick fast to see how it would look. I'm pretty happy with how it's tuning out so far.

[waynieZ]

It looks slick!!

[CamaroAJ]

I messed up the mix on the last coat of epoxy that goes in the inside black ring around the bezel last week so I've been working on getting that fixed. I have one more coat I think to get it finished up so I can do a finial wet sand on it. I did get the cluster finished up with the sanding though. Its all trimmed and test fit so it's ready for paint now.

I also have done a lot of work on my tail lamp LED's. The second one is almost finished up and then I can get the potting epoxy done and they'll be ready to install. Pics on those later.

[CamaroAJ]

So I got the bezel and cluster at paint and should get them back in a week or two. I started working on the center console. I finally located one that wasn't crazy expensive last week and started working on it when it got here.

First thing I did was fill the traction control button hole and bond the access panel in place for a smooth look. After that I fiberglassed the stock opening for the radio, HVAC and ash tray to start with while I went back and forth on if I wanted an iPad mini or a double din radio. After searching and searching I decided to go with the double din because it will do more than the iPad will do for me. With that decided I bonded the double din trim ring in and got it body worked.

I still haven't picked out an HVAC controller yet. I really like the Resomod Air controller the best, but I've emailed them a few times with no response. Personally the Vintage Air controllers look like old hot rodder parts and they don't have anything more modern looking like I'd like to use.

Now I'm on hold again with this part until I know what controller to put in, then I will wrap it in carbon and send it to paint. I may try a vertical controller and put my window switches on each side of it. Need to print off pictures and tape them to it for a visual.

Edit** not sure why the pictures are big and 90*. They are fine on my computer before I upload them.

[WSSix]

Nice work on the gauges and center console.

[CamaroAJ]

Nice work on the gauges and center console.

Thank you.

Yesterday evening I got the rear bumper primer sanded one last time and threw some paint on it. I need another coat or two, but I wet sanded a small area this morning and its looking great. Once I get it finial wet sanded I'll be able to make my mold for carbon lay up.

[Goosesdad]

Fantastic!!

[waynieZ]

I love it, nice job!

[CamaroAJ]

So I ran into a big problem with my rear bumper. When I put a second coat of paint on the whole thing wrinkled up. So after lots of primer, wet sanding, paint, and clear I'm finally close to done. I've already went over it with 1000g wet sanding. Now to 2500 and 3000 so I can wax it and make my mold.

On the dash side of things I picked up my HVAC controls and power window switches and got all that stuff fit up. With that done I was able to shoot it black, coat some epoxy, and lay some carbon. Hopefully tomorrow I'll be able to get the first coat of epoxy on it so I can trim the edges Monday.

[Sheck44]

AJ ... just an fyi, you can actually take apart and paint or powder coat the Dakota Digital controller outside aluminum trim ring black to match the rest of your switches, I know I did it and it looked great

Cheers
Steve

[CamaroAJ]

AJ ... just an fyi, you can actually take apart and paint or powder coat the Dakota Digital controller outside aluminum trim ring black to match the rest of your switches, I know I did it and it looked great

Cheers
Steve

I planned on it. I find it odd that they don't offer it in black. was it just the two side screws holding it together or do I need to peel off the silver tape on top and bottom?

[CamaroAJ]

Slowly getting some stuff done. Sucks not having a garage at home to work on my car. On my center console I got it coated with another coat of epoxy and then sanded down and the large holes trimmed out. I need to order some more epoxy so I can get it finished and off to the body shop for some clear coat.

I've also been working on my rear bumper. Had a issue with some paint that caused some wrinkling up and had to basically sand it all down and start over. It took some time, but it came out pretty nice. With that all fixed I attached some plexi to the back, built a dam, and applied some partall and then some PVA. Monday I'm hoping to start putting down tooling gelcoat and fiberglass mat. This is my first venture into mold making so hoping for the best.

Lastly Ben has been working on my interior rendering. This is where we're at so far. I'm pretty happy with how its coming along thus far.

Sorry the pictures are sideways again. They are fine on my computer, but turn once uploaded.

[Sheck44]

I planned on it. I find it odd that they don't offer it in black. was it just the two side screws holding it together or do I need to peel off the silver tape on top and bottom?

AJ ... I figured you were going too. Yes, it is the 2 screws and I believe if I remember correctly I had to peel the metal tape off and then re-used it once I was finished. Pretty easy...

Interior design looks FANTASTIC btw !

Cheers
Steve

[CamaroAJ]

Ben finished up the interior render with some changes I was looking for. I like the simple clean look. I may add some of the red piping back in, we'll see when I get closer to that point if my taste changes any.

[waynieZ]

It's going to be amazing! nice work on the Carbon again.

[SRD Art]

It was fun working with you on this AJ, I enjoyed the challenge considering all the structural changes. In the end I think it'll really stand out and catch some attention, fitting nicely with the overall theme for whole the car.

Looking forward to seeing it all come together over the next while. Good luck and keep the updates coming!

[CamaroAJ]

Nothing to exciting to report. I've been chipping away at the rear bumper mold as I have time. So far the driver side is done and ready to demold. The passenger side got its first layer of fiberglass yesterday and I'll pick up some more resin at lunch to get some more on it today.

4 coats of partall wax, 3 coats of PVA, two coats of tooling gelcoat, then around 4-5 layers of fiberglass. So far I'm pretty happy with this being my first go at this. I learned to trim the fiberglass after each coat or it builds up and doesn't let the edges lay flat with the next layer.

[214Chevy]

Sooooo....I'm gonna be the first one to ask now that you have a mold. When can you make me one?

[CamaroAJ]

Sooooo....I'm gonna be the first one to ask now that you have a mold. When can you make me one?

I've already though about it and sell them as a builder series type deal where you have to build brackets and trim the extra carbon from the edges. There is only two major issues that make it not a bolt on deal. 1. I narrowed the bumper to recess into pockets so you'd have to cut the body on each side to tuck it in. 2. I modified the tail panel of my car so my bumper brackets are different than stock. The bumper its self fits like stock though. My plan was to bolt them to the car then epoxy them to the bumper and carbon in the brackets on the back side once I get it fit up.

That said, if you're ok with cutting up your car and able to make your own brackets then I'd be open to laying up a few extra bumpers as it would also help me fund some other car parts.

[Goosesdad]

Nicely done!!

[214Chevy]

I've already though about it and sell them as a builder series type deal where you have to build brackets and trim the extra carbon from the edges. There is only two major issues that make it not a bolt on deal. 1. I narrowed the bumper to recess into pockets so you'd have to cut the body on each side to tuck it in. 2. I modified the tail panel of my car so my bumper brackets are different than stock. The bumper its self fits like stock though. My plan was to bolt them to the car then epoxy them to the bumper and carbon in the brackets on the back side once I get it fit up.

That said, if you're ok with cutting up your car and able to make your own brackets then I'd be open to laying up a few extra bumpers as it would also help me fund some other car parts.

That sounds like a lot of man hours...

[CamaroAJ]

Nicely done!!
Thank you

That sounds like a lot of man hours...

I mean, $775 for an Anvil bumper or $400 for one you have to make work yourself thats a tucked in custom fit?

[214Chevy]

I mean, $775 for an Anvil bumper or $400 for one you have to make work yourself thats a tucked in custom fit?

Right, but I was referencing the custom basketry and the pockets that needed to be cut for it to be tucked. Very nice and it's something to think about. I may have to sacrifice and keep the stock bumper look since my plan is to go with a set custom wheels from EVOD. At least that's the plan.

[CamaroAJ]

Right, but I was referencing the custom basketry and the pockets that needed to be cut for it to be tucked. Very nice and it's something to think about. I may have to sacrifice and keep the stock bumper look since my plan is to go with a set custom wheels from EVOD. At least that's the plan.

I'm not sure how much of custom the bracket will need to be honestly. What I had to to was make them shorter because of the tail panel mods. The bumper side fit the stock couture of the steel bumper and bolted to the body in the stock locations. My brackets are in storage right now so I can't show you what I mean and its going to be a long time before I get them out again.

[SRD Art]

That's a great skill to have, very impressive what you're doing with all the CF parts.

[Sheck44]

:king:

Steve