Hellephant C10

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Well with the Camaro in paint jail I needed something to do. I found a hell of a deal on a new Roadster Shop 67-72 C10 chassis. So I decided to pull the trigger on it and slowly build it. I don’t even own a C10 currently but I’ll find one. I want to do an original paint truck. Whether it’s patina or not.
Planned on a simple LS or LT swap. But I got my hands on something a little more exciting. A good customer had purchased 2 Hellephant crate engines and I talked him out of one. I’m going to do the 8spd auto behind it. 79472

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[Dodge383fi]

YES!! Wish I could put one of those in my truck (67 Dodge D100). But they’re far above my pay grade (retired). This will be fun.
-Ed

[WSSix]

Oh, this is going to be good. I love the early C10s with the sloped hood and small rear window. I suggest finding one of those, lol. The 67 that GM built and painted in their Centennial Blue is gorgeous. Skip posted it in his picture thread in case it can provide inspiration. Keep us posted! Good luck with the build too.

[syborg tt]

Oh hell yes I am in on this build !!

I so love the idea.


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[Bad Bowtie]

Oh my !!! Can't wait for this one its right up my alley. Just starting a 71 SWB myself but could only dreammm of a Hellephant in it. I have a measily 454 HO for mine lol. I've always hung onto this one as inspiration

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But now I get a better one from ground up lol.
Can't wait to watch your progress.

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[two-piece]

Custom oil pan came in today. It’s a nice bit of work. I also ordered brakes. I went with Little Shop MFG and their own billet 6 piston calipers front and rear on 16” rotors. Sourced a 8HP90 trans and it’ll be on the way next week. With can bus I can use a rotary style shifter(not my favorite) but have to have an electronic signal. Don’t plan to run a console so that isn’t an option for a shifter. I’ll post pics as stuff starts coming in.

[Pro Touring Store]

Damn son!

[two-piece]

Found an original paint 69 patina truck. It’s exactly what I wanted for this build. I plan to use the Sweet Patina rub to shine it up and fix a few small rust spots and have something I’m not worried about driving anywhere.

[dhutton]

That is a great find!

Don

[colorado80439]

Just looked at the patina sauce, looks great!

[214Chevy]

1) Chassis...check!
2) Engine....check!
3) Truck....check!

Now let the fun begin!!!!:rockin::beavis:

[two-piece]

Quick run to FL and got the truck home. Also stopped in to a buddies place and grabbed a 8HP90. It is a very solid/straight old truck. Not all beat up. Plan to drive it as is until the chassis is ready. Wheels and brakes are ordered.

[andrewb70]

Great project!

How does the 8HP90 compare in size to a 4L80? I don't suppose you have a 4L80 around and can take some pictures with the two side by side?

Andrew

[two-piece]

I do not. I’ve ran a 4l80 in my last C10 without any floor mods. So once I start in on this one I’ll know pretty quick the difference.

[LS1-IROC]

How are you planning on controlling the trans?

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http://soundgermanautomotive.com/

[two-piece]

Sooooo this started with the need to change the headlights. So much for cruising it a while.

[ScotI]

I've changed the headlights of my 67 & 68. I can assure you it wasn't that invasive :rofl:

[two-piece]

I've changed the headlights of my 67 & 68. I can assure you it wasn't that invasive :rofl:

My wife doesn’t need to know that. 79547

[ScotI]

My wife doesn’t need to know that. 79547

Does she have a single sister that would fall for it? :lol:

[WSSix]

...and I though changing the headlight on a modern car was difficult.

[camcojb]

...and I though changing the headlight on a modern car was difficult.

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[syborg tt]

So we know you swapping in the Helephant. What are your plans for the chassis.


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[Bad Bowtie]

So we know you swapping in the Helephant. What are your plans for the chassis.

Whoa Marty!!!! Didn't you see the first thread:snapout:. Roadster Shop :trophy-1302:

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[jarhead]

subscribed!

[two-piece]

Got the motor and trans mocked up to build mounts. With the high hump floor I have all kind of room. We’ve got the front of the motor sitting about 3” higher than it has to be but it gives me plenty of room for headers and nothing is close. Running about a 3° down angle on everything so I think that’s we’re it’ll live. Everything is sitting level with the crossmembers.

[WSSix]

Had to do a double take as I thought this was you. Their truck looked so similar to your truck. Well, before you changed the head light that is



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[andrewb70]

Before you finalize the location of the engine, I would estimate the angle of the driveshaft so that you can approximate the front and rear operating angles. You may find that running the engine more parallel with the chassis will help, given such a low rear ride height.

Andrew

[two-piece]

Before you finalize the location of the engine, I would estimate the angle of the driveshaft so that you can approximate the front and rear operating angles. You may find that running the engine more parallel with the chassis will help, given such a low rear ride height.

Andrew

I really appreciate the input. I’ve moved it down to about .5° now and still can access the alternator and compressor bolts. That was a concern of mounting it too low and having to jack the engine up to service them.

[two-piece]

I got a sneak peak of the brakes today. I should have them in a couple days.

[clill]

Cool truck. Interesting to see the engine requires 10-60 oil.

[camcojb]

Cool truck. Interesting to see the engine requires 10-60 oil.

I noticed that too. Crazy to see that weight in modern engines. My 427 turbo LS is set up for 10-40wt which harkens back to the good old days of 10-40 and 20-50 in our performance engines. Lots of load on that engine though, and obviously they run different clearances internally.

[two-piece]

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[two-piece]

Wheels came in and I got the chassis back from powdercoat. Sat the motor in and mocked up the core support. Wizard Cooling did the radiator/condenser/heat exchanger set up. Level 7 built the matching over flow and supercharger coolant reservoir.

[camcojb]

BEAUTIFUL work!! :thumbsup:

[andrewb70]

WOW!

Andrew

[214Chevy]

That is insane...!!

[Jimbo1367]

Sick

[two-piece]

Got all the metal work done on the cab and had to test fit it. Fits without having to cut a single thing. It’ll go back to Vastine’s for firewall and interior paint.

[WSSix]

The wheels look great in silver. Glad to hear the cab fit on the frame without issues.

[Tinker]

This project would turn anyone into a truck lover.
Very clean and neatly done, but mostly just way cool!

[two-piece]

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Bed is back from the body shop. Had a little rust repair done, some patina matching on the wider inner fenders, undercoat on the bottom and matte clear. I also got all new trim for the truck.

[two-piece]

Chassis is ready for the body. Just got the exhaust all finished up and fuel lines ran. Fuel cell by DB Rods and custom driveshaft.

The body has all the rust repair finished and has been matte cleared. The interior and firewall will be painted the OG blue with matte clear also.

Thanks in advance for pic flip.

[two-piece]

Out in the sun after matte clear. In the background the Camaro was waiting for the C10 to come out so it can go in the booth.

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[syborg tt]

Well Hands Down this is one of my favorite projects to date !!!

I hope to see this in person one day.

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I wanted the truck to sit lower than it was. Had to change to a shorter spring front and rear and added some 0 rate take up springs. Also flipped the front coil over to where the adj nut was up top. It bottomed out on the lower arm with 2” of shock body left when full droop.

Need to adjust the trim and the sheet metal still but it’s getting there.

[Goosesdad]

B E A utiful!!!

[Jimbo1367]

Wow. This is another sick build you have .

[two-piece]

A little wiring action. Should be running by next week.

[two-piece]

Some detail pictures. Got it fired up this week. Sounds amazing. The SC whine is poetic. Goes back to body shop for a few touch ups and panel alignment. Also have to mount the Fiber Forged CF inner fenders. Carpet is the only thing left to do for the interior.

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[sru1436]

Wow, that truck is so bad ass!

[jarhead]

Man i would love a ride in the passenger seat :popcorn2:

Seriously cool Truck!

[andrewb70]

Why didn't you guys use the 8HP90?

Andrew

[two-piece]

Why didn't you guys use the 8HP90?

Andrew

I did.

[andrewb70]

I did.

How did I miss that?!? : facepalm:

Looking back I didn't miss it, but I totally forgot about it.

So I assume the stock Dodge engine management system communicates with the TCU inside the 8HP90 over CAN. Are you able to tune the transmission with HP Tuners?

Andrew

[two-piece]

How did I miss that?!? : facepalm:

Looking back I didn't miss it, but I totally forgot about it.

So I assume the stock Dodge engine management system communicates with the TCU inside the 8HP90 over CAN. Are you able to tune the transmission with HP Tuners?

Andrew

I’m running a trans controller from PCS. Sound German Engineering has a harness set up for it and it communicates thru CAN. The Hellephant was set up for a manual. I’m sending the ECU off to Diablo to have it dialed in for the auto.

[two-piece]

It’s all together. Got to build an intake now that the Fiber Forged inners are in. Carpet and a little tuning. The 1st drive is going to be intense.


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[camcojb]

Beautiful!!!!!!

[ScotI]

I didn't realize so much of the cab sheetmetal was replaced. A wee bit more than a little rust repair. Turned out killer!

[two-piece]

I didn't realize so much of the cab sheetmetal was replaced. A wee bit more than a little rust repair. Turned out killer!

Yeah man we had to get into it. But the thing was it left all the natural patina intact with the exception of pass side a pillar. Now its a hell of a solid truck with zero cancer.

[jarhead]

Brings new meaning to "Monster Truck" . wow what an awesome build!

[dmc69]

Truck turned our awesome! Can’t wait to hear it!

[WSSix]

Looks fantastic!

[andrewb70]

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Are those Hooker exhaust manifolds?

Andrew

[camcojb]

Are those Hooker exhaust manifolds?

Andrew

Sure looks like it.

[andrewb70]

Sure looks like it.

They do...but it sure would be nice to get a confirmation from the OP...

I have ideas...LOL

Andrew

[two-piece]

Are those Hooker exhaust manifolds?

Andrew

Yes they are.

[andrewb70]

Yes they are.

Thank you!

Andrew

[two-piece]

Got it back from getting the carpet installed and started to put some miles on it. It is so fast at maybe 70% throttle. I need to learn it and get my roll bar installed before I do much more than that.


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[andrewb70]

Beautiful interior. I love the color!

Andrew

[WSSix]

The interior looks great! Have fun driving it and learning to control the power!

[two-piece]

Trucks back from Gap Industries. I’ve put 200 miles on it so far and it’s been flawless. Drives amazing and the power demands respect. I’m really taking it slow. Got the paddle shifters wired in and that affords me a little more control.


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[WSSix]

I really dig that interior the more I look at it. The matte paint was a great choice.

[two-piece]

Took the truck over to Mobile Toys in Bryan to get the final touch. Nice box to house 2” Focal 8’s and some low profile kick panels.

[two-piece]

The guy who originally pulled my truck out of the weeds reached out on IG and sent me some pictures.



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[X.K5]

Amazing truck, clicks all the boxes. Inspiration for all of us.

[Stielow]

Got it back from getting the carpet installed and started to put some miles on it. It is so fast at maybe 70% throttle. I need to learn it and get my roll bar installed before I do much more than that.


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Wow cool truck!!


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[dhutton]

Wow cool truck!!


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The holy grail of build likes! You have arrived! :trophy-1302:

Don

[syborg tt]

So, I have one Question any interest in trading for my SLP575 Bumble Bee ?


What an incredible build and this truck is just awesome !!!!

Wait I have more... The fire extinguisher mount is just Wicket Cool.

[two-piece]

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First time to get it out to a little local show. Truck has 450 miles on it and doing great.

[two-piece]

Not Stock Photo shot the truck for Classic Truck Performance. The man is a wizard with the camera.


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[camcojb]

Looks fantastic! :thumbsup:

[andrewb70]

Beautiful!!!!

Andrew

[WSSix]

Those are excellent pictures. Congrats on the magazine spread!

[two-piece]

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[camcojb]

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The final piece.

Awesome. :thumbsup:

[67XR7]

Just sold my car this morning and figuring out what to do next. I think I want to do a C10 or buy one now. Haha

Great build!

[WSSix]

That's a great looking steering wheel. The elephant imprint is a nice touch

[two-piece]

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Had the truck out at Goodguys this weekend with Tim and the crew from GAP Industries. Great time and picked up a Builders Choice award.

[camcojb]

Well deserved. :thumbsup:

[WSSix]

Congrats on the recognition!

[two-piece]

Here’s a video of the photo shoot with Not Stock Photography.



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[murtah]

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Had the truck out at Goodguys this weekend with Tim and the crew from GAP Industries. Great time and picked up a Builders Choice award.

What color wheel center did you use? Was it a silver matte? Did you clear coat the center?

[214Chevy]

Bad a$$ video!!

[syborg tt]

I agree 100%

Bad ass video


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[two-piece]

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[andrewb70]

Details?

[two-piece]

Details?

Other than I can’t get pics flipped correct. I had Rieger Auto out of Canada build me a custom steering wheel. I was already running the PCS paddles on a basic Sabelt wheel. But that didn’t fit the truck. So he took the guts out of the PCS unit and built a whole new set up.

[fleetus macmullitz]

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[two-piece]

https://digital.classictruckperformance.com/issue/december-2024rt/travis-alford-1969-chevy-c10-426-hemi-mopar-hellephant-patina-fleetside/

[fleetus macmullitz]

https://digital.classictruckperformance.com/issue/december-2024rt/travis-alford-1969-chevy-c10-426-hemi-mopar-hellephant-patina-fleetside/

I really, really like the steering wheel design!

Congrats on the feature.:thumbsup:

[two-piece]

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[thedugan]

Love this truck. Everything about it

How much bigger is the Hemi vs an LS for fitment in the framerails and firewall to cowl? Was it hard to make it fit?

[two-piece]

Love this truck. Everything about it

How much bigger is the Hemi vs an LS for fitment in the framerails and firewall to cowl? Was it hard to make it fit?

Thanks man. It was way too easy for what it is. The firewall is factory dimensions, only thing that is different is it’s shaved but that didn’t do anything for clearance. I put a high hump floor for the 8HP90 trans and that’s it.

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Had a build tag made up to go on the firewall