View Full Version : Flat / Matte black opinions?
Flying Scotsman
03-09-2007, 09:14 PM
After a shunt with a Range Rover which slid through a red light in the snow, my poor Nova looks like it might need a slightly quicker than planned paint job once the bodywork is fixed .:mad: :mad: :mad:
Its a gloss black just now but I've been kicking around the idea of the flat/matte black not rattlecan primer, actual hot rod black..
(http://www.performancecoatings.dupont.com/dpc/en/us/html/color/hh/hh_HotRodBlack_color.html) and wonered if anyone had toyed with this before? In my head it would look badass but is it hard to keep clean? Is it just a 'trend' - there was a ton of matte paint jobs at SEMA. Is it just a crap idea???? :_paranoid
Opinions welcome
cheers
FS
:thumbsup:
LateNight72
03-09-2007, 10:17 PM
While it does look fairly cool, IMO, it looks unfinished :omg: . I personally would do a full BC/CC gloss black...
Hdesign
03-09-2007, 10:24 PM
This is sort of a personal taste call. Some people like it some don't. Here's the generic answer: "It's your car, do what you want"
My opinion on the satin, semi gloss, flat issue is that it really depends on the application. Personally, I think there are certain types of cars that treatment looks killer on. Then again, there are some that were well intentioned and seemed to follow a "new trend" without regard. I think nothing looks more bada$$ on a custom or hot rod than satin black paint. For musclecars and g-machines I tend to think they look more striking as only an accent. Satin stripes or hood on a slick, high gloss car look great. To me full satin paint just looks underwhelming on musclecars unless there's some functional aspect to it. Honestly, it just looks unfinished. Just my $.02
Flash68
03-09-2007, 10:37 PM
Here is another option:
http://www.tcpglobal.com/kustomshop/ksflatz.aspx
I am going to try this in black on my single hood stripe in contrast to a semi-gloss body color for the rest of the car.
I agree with Hdesign in that I think it works better as a stripe or hood color to create a nice contrast to a semi gloss body. There are many examples of that and I think it looks killer. Of course, to each his own. I also thought about doing the whole car in a flat/matte but decided against it.
Good luck!
CraigMorrison
03-09-2007, 11:57 PM
I really dig the satin finish- I think there's a real sinister / stealthy look to it. Here's a link to today's Jalopnik story on it. http://www.jalopnik.com/photogallery/matte/496573 How bad does this Mercedes look? Cruisin around in this is going to scare old ladies and make children cry. I really want to do a satin finish muscle car. I don't think it's for everybody, but it definitely puts a point across.....
For those that want to do it, you can do any base coat and then top coat with PPG's "egg shell clear" It makes for an awesome satin finish.
Rick D
03-10-2007, 06:50 AM
Ive used the Hot Rod black nice stuff. My friend has his whole truck paint with it not to bad to keep it cleans. As for the look it all depends on the car. If it's a show car I would use it for striping and such. If you going to drive it I say go for it I love the look. Here's a picture of my freinds truck.
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/RS_427/tn_wall_of_silver_003.jpg
Lenie
03-10-2007, 04:21 PM
I like it, I'm going flat black inserts on hood,trunk,back panel and valance on gloss black.:cool:
Diognes56
03-11-2007, 12:57 AM
For the most part, I personally don't like completely satin cars, though some 30's to early 60's kustoms and hot rods look awsome that way. I do like satin accents (stripes and such) on some other cars though, especially later 60's and up performance cars. Though that is just my opinion, it is your car :yes: .
Sorry to hear about the damage to your car :( .
David
deuce_454
03-11-2007, 07:37 AM
if its not either a brand new exotic or somehow accented with somthing that makes it look finished.. it will look like somone covered dents or crappy bodywork on an old beater....
Steve Chryssos
03-11-2007, 08:22 AM
I had a Ducati Monster Dark that looked angry and stealthy with its matte black paint. I mixed in a little carbon fiber and the look was complete. If you are not sure, try a really dark blue or green instead of black. That will corroborate that the finish is intentional rather than temporary.
Beegs
03-11-2007, 10:14 AM
I know it's a rice box but I have been thinking of the following semi-flat olive type color with a flat black hood and deck lid. It's growing on me.
I say give it a shot!
69 muscle
03-11-2007, 10:41 AM
Say you put flat black stripes on a gloss black car, how do you apply the stripes without feeling the line between the two paints? Would you use two separate clears? When you color sand and buff would it not bring some shine to the flat?
Blue70
03-11-2007, 05:15 PM
I have been doing semigloss black on my cars for a while...
I've had 3 like this, the Camaro even had Primer gray stripes :P
My Nova will get either a full semigloss black, or a gloss color with the hood,
and tops of the fenders semigloss black (Think T/A Challenger, or AAR Cuda)
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/entrefal/Camaro/cama1.jpg
Flying Scotsman
03-12-2007, 08:25 AM
I have been doing semigloss black on my cars for a while...
I've had 3 like this, the Camaro even had Primer gray stripes :P
My Nova will get either a full semigloss black, or a gloss color with the hood,
and tops of the fenders semigloss black (Think T/A Challenger, or AAR Cuda)
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/entrefal/Camaro/cama1.jpg
Man thats a cool Camaro :thumbsup:
Any pics of your Nova in progress?
nvawgn
03-13-2007, 04:32 PM
i say do it, that's the color i'm going with!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Streetking
03-13-2007, 04:39 PM
I like it..:thumbsup: Go 4 it..
SW
wiedemab
03-13-2007, 05:22 PM
I agree that it depends on the car.
I used Dupont's Hot Rod Black for all of my moldings and the center of my hood.
I'm really wanting to do a "shop truck" all Hot Rod Black with some pinstriping and some steelies!
It all depends on the theme.
Again - do whatever you like.
http://wiedos.com/89_Mustang/Mustang%20Gallery/images/AutoX.jpg
Derek69SS
03-13-2007, 05:28 PM
Flat black has an incredible ability to make any car look mediocre...
If a car is a total beater, spray it flat black, and you've instantly got a semi-presentable car.
If a car is arrow straight, and prep work is perfect, flat black makes it look like an unfinished car that could be hiding something scary underneith.
CraigMorrison
03-13-2007, 06:42 PM
http://images22.fotki.com/v724/photos/4/453080/1755002/fbomb-vi.jpg
HotRod's F-Bomb project looks pretty nasty all flat......
:hail:
Flying Scotsman
03-14-2007, 10:34 AM
Flat black has an incredible ability to make any car look mediocre...
If a car is a total beater, spray it flat black, and you've instantly got a semi-presentable car.
If a car is arrow straight, and prep work is perfect, flat black makes it look like an unfinished car that could be hiding something scary underneith.
This has also crossed my mind. As badass as i think it looks it does have a certain 'unfinished' look.
Ive pretty much decided to go gloss black again for just now but planning to flatten out all the chrome (see thread in Paint & Body) further down the line i may mess with maybe a different color matte (i freakin' love F-bomb olive drab btw) :thumbsup:
SteveMcqueenRules
03-14-2007, 01:46 PM
Check out the project F-BOmB in HOT ROD it has all your questions answered about how they did the flat paint.
Flying Scotsman
03-14-2007, 04:50 PM
Check out the project F-BOmB in HOT ROD it has all your questions answered about how they did the flat paint.
Already have! Thanks! Its pretty awesome! :D
Nvrenuf
03-14-2007, 05:48 PM
Somebody probably already said this ( I didnt read every reply), but just check out that show on Speed channel, Forza Motorsport showdown. They have a killer camaro and cuda in the satin black. I think it looks mean. Just depends on the look you want.:thumbsup:
customcam
03-14-2007, 07:43 PM
57 2 door will look awsome lots of chrome :unibrow:
Flying Scotsman
03-14-2007, 09:22 PM
Somebody probably already said this ( I didnt read every reply), but just check out that show on Speed channel, Forza Motorsport showdown. They have a killer camaro and cuda in the satin black. I think it looks mean. Just depends on the look you want.:thumbsup:
I know...i just watched it, they look awsome, and now im back to thinking satin...
agghhh!:faint:
Nvrenuf
03-14-2007, 10:22 PM
Somebody probably already said this ( I didnt read every reply), but just check out that show on Speed channel, Forza Motorsport showdown. They have a killer camaro and cuda in the satin black. I think it looks mean. Just depends on the look you want.:thumbsup:
sorry, I do know its a challenger, not a cuda. Just re-read my post and noticed the error.:willy:
CraigMorrison
03-15-2007, 07:50 AM
Already have! Thanks! Its pretty awesome! :D
http://images1.fotki.com/v317/photos/4/453080/1755002/can_you_hear_me-vi.jpg
Beegs
03-15-2007, 08:20 AM
http://images1.fotki.com/v317/photos/4/453080/1755002/can_you_hear_me-vi.jpg
LMAO!!
Flying Scotsman
03-15-2007, 08:50 AM
^^^ i almost spat my coffee all over my monitor when i saw that !!! :lol: :D :lol:
SteveMcqueenRules
03-15-2007, 02:27 PM
whoa holy crap clears throat:_paranoid didn't mean to yell
I myself am not a fan. Count my vote as a NAY :)
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