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dqhemi
03-27-2007, 06:39 PM
I’m not sure how many of you have struggled with aftermarket columns in your cars. We’re building a lot of cars and there wasn’t any real bolt in solution for us, so we went ahead and had tilt columns made up that don’t require any fabrication – they bolt right up to the factory brackets and mounts. We also made a number of improvements based upon what we needed for our own builds as well as our customers cars.

Pics are below and prices are on our website under Products – Steering Columns.

Here’s the details and should answer most of your questions:

• Only true bolt on column available – The column bolts directly to the factory mounting brackets ensuring a quality fit and ease of installation.
• Roller bearing support at the bottom of the shaft – This is a critical feature for those wishing to use a rack and pinion steering setup. This is the only column on the market to have this feature. We were (and are) not comfortable running u-joints to a rack with nothing other than a plastic bushing to support it at the bottom of the column.
• Various install kits - Kits available to connect the column to either rack and pinion or original factory style applications. We’ll have prices for the install in a day or two. Kits will be available for factory power and manual steering boxes as well as our rack setup and other manufacturers – if you have an aftermarket K-Member w/ Rack and Pinion Steering, we have an install kit for it.
• Tilt Column – Allows user to find the proper steering angle for his or her particular driving style and aids in vehicle entry and exit (imagine an E-Body that is easy to get into!)
• Designed for use with popular aftermarket steering wheels – This allows the customer to use the steering wheel of his or her choice.
• Optional switch on the turn signal stalk – This allows you to relocate the high beam switch, or use it for other applications such as Nitrous Oxide, overdrive (i.e. Gear Vendors), line-lock or anything else you can think of.
• Available with or without keyed ignition switch – We’re releasing the B Body version with or without the ignition switch and E Body comes with the keyed switch.
• Choice of finishes – Available in chrome or ready to paint steel to custom color match to your vehicle.
• Availability – These columns are ONLY available from XV Motorsports and are available now – we will be shipping them in April. We also have discounted pricing on these for qualified shops and dealers.

On the install kits to go from the column to the box or rack, we will list the parts and have pricing for them some time later this week. These will be available for the other front K-Member’s out there.

As far as applications, we’ve done them for the E and B Body Mopars. We have not confirmed if the columns will fit 66-67 and 73-74 B Body – but we believe they will.

We have a number of new products coming out one right after the other – we will be announcing more new products possibly as early as next week.

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John Buscema
XV Motorsports
www.xvmotorsports.com

camcojb
03-27-2007, 07:03 PM
looks great John. You need one for the A bodies too! :unibrow:

Jody

californiacuda
03-27-2007, 10:44 PM
How much, seems like some of the items are rather pricey?

dqhemi
03-28-2007, 06:45 AM
looks great John. You need one for the A bodies too! :unibrow:

Jody

If we can get 25 people to step up we'll do the A-Body as well. We don't build A-Body cars sowe don't have any lying around to do the development on.

If you want to be one of the 25, just call Peter here - he'll be keeping track.

John Buscema
XV Motorsports
www.xvmotorsports.com

dqhemi
03-28-2007, 06:50 AM
How much, seems like some of the items are rather pricey?

I can't remember if it's OK to post prices on this site or not - apologies in advance if it's taboo....

Pricing is as follows:

Columns w/o keyed ignition switch - $399.99
Columns w/ keyed ignition switch - $575.99

Chrome - add +$150.00
Switch on turn signal stalk - $75.00

Install kits we will have prices in the next few days on - these are to go from the bottom of the column to the rack or steering box.

californiacuda
03-28-2007, 07:37 AM
Sounds pretty reasonable, thanks for the info and keep the products coming. Would it be a mistake, or a step backwards to adapt your suspension pieces for Air Ride?

dqhemi
03-28-2007, 10:06 AM
Sounds pretty reasonable, thanks for the info and keep the products coming. Would it be a mistake, or a step backwards to adapt your suspension pieces for Air Ride?

Oh man - It's really hard for me to answer your question. I'm reluctant to answer your question because I know it will upset some.

Let's just say for what we are doing and our point(s) of reference it would be more than a few steps backwards.

Musclerodz
03-28-2007, 11:50 AM
Sounds pretty reasonable, thanks for the info and keep the products coming. Would it be a mistake, or a step backwards to adapt your suspension pieces for Air Ride?
If you watched the development they did on TV you would think it was a step backwards after using a compnay that develops a lot of F1 suspensions and no I am not bashing Air Ride as I will be using their stuff on my '68 Camaro and '50 Chevy pickup.

Mike

Musclerodz
03-28-2007, 11:52 AM
I can't remember if it's OK to post prices on this site or not - apologies in advance if it's taboo....

Pricing is as follows:

Columns w/o keyed ignition switch - $399.99
Columns w/ keyed ignition switch - $575.99

Chrome - add +$150.00
Switch on turn signal stalk - $75.00

Install kits we will have prices in the next few days on - these are to go from the bottom of the column to the rack or steering box.
Where were these 6 months ago when my buddy has to rebuild his tilt because there were no aftermarket ones?Glad to see these are now available.

Mike

californiacuda
03-28-2007, 04:41 PM
I saw the fancy bumping machine on TV looked pretty high tech. I never saw any info on track times, or later G's or other quantifiable information. Can soome be provided?

camcojb
03-28-2007, 06:02 PM
If we can get 25 people to step up we'll do the A-Body as well. We don't build A-Body cars sowe don't have any lying around to do the development on.

If you want to be one of the 25, just call Peter here - he'll be keeping track.

John Buscema
XV Motorsports
www.xvmotorsports.com


you show A body suspension on your site coming this year, is that still a plan or are you not doing the A body stuff at all?

Jody

dqhemi
03-28-2007, 08:57 PM
I saw the fancy bumping machine on TV looked pretty high tech. I never saw any info on track times, or later G's or other quantifiable information. Can soome be provided?

Our level I stuff pulls 1 G
Level II pulls just under 1.1 G's
That's sustained G's not peak.

Track times were silly - we took almost 15 seconds a lap off on a 1.3 mile road course, with about 4 seconds of that attributable to wheels and tires. We originally were going to do a full comparison on the TV shows, but in the end the gap was so big we decided against focusing on it.

We'll get some opportunities to run against (i.e. smoke) some modern cars this year for some meaningful benchmark comparisons.

BTW, the fancy bumping machine is what top F1, IRL, Champ, ALMS, Grand Am and NASCAR teams use - or rather these teams use the same guys we work with. They also do alot of work for the OE's. That machine is so precise we could see differences in the tire pressures and how they carry over to the vehicles handling. All the tools we used were OE and professional race level, right down to a ride and handling specialist on the track and street - he's a guy that gets lent out to the OE's when they have issues to sort out on production vehicles.

As we get some more time and opportunities it will become very clear just what our stuff can do. Also as more of our builds and customers running our stuff gets out there.

dqhemi
03-28-2007, 09:14 PM
you show A body suspension on your site coming this year, is that still a plan or are you not doing the A body stuff at all?

Jody

Level I we're definitely not doing for A-Body at this time.

Level II for A body we're still not sold on the market and waiting for enough serious buyers to step up to do it.

Or to say it another way, we think our time and resources are better spent developing the next Level II for another platform altogether now - a non Mopar one......:rolleyes:

We haven't seen many (or really any) real high end builds of A-Bodies or people seriously campaigning them on track (as in road courses). We're very close to starting work on a drag package and that we would definitely do for the A-Body cars as well as it will be easy to do so.

Chassis stiffening as well we constantly go round on doing for the A-Body cars and do get lots of requests for it. We may have a way for developing that faster/easier, but there's only so many projects we can focus on at once and some of the others look to be more exciting/rewarding.

We will be announcing another new product probably next week that will be done for B, E and A body Mopars, but it's quite a bit less ambitious than some of our other stuff.

camcojb
03-28-2007, 09:46 PM
Level I we're definitely not doing for A-Body at this time.

Level II for A body we're still not sold on the market and waiting for enough serious buyers to step up to do it.

Or to say it another way, we think our time and resources are better spent developing the next Level II for another platform altogether now - a non Mopar one......:rolleyes:

We haven't seen many (or really any) real high end builds of A-Bodies or people seriously campaigning them on track (as in road courses). We're very close to starting work on a drag package and that we would definitely do for the A-Body cars as well as it will be easy to do so.

Chassis stiffening as well we constantly go round on doing for the A-Body cars and do get lots of requests for it. We may have a way for developing that faster/easier, but there's only so many projects we can focus on at once and some of the others look to be more exciting/rewarding.

We will be announcing another new product probably next week that will be done for B, E and A body Mopars, but it's quite a bit less ambitious than some of our other stuff.


very cool, I was leaning towards an old school drag type car anyway. :)

Jody

SLO 65
03-28-2007, 10:40 PM
John,

Can the E-body version be ordered without the ignition switch?

Nick

californiacuda
03-28-2007, 11:28 PM
Not to argue at all about the competency of the high tech machine and its ability to measure small changes. But I had a teacher many years ago that would say "There's many a slip between the cup and the lip".

If your selling a very competent suspension system at a not cheap price, it doesn't make sense to me to not demonstrate over and over again, its superior performance. And I haven't seen a demo against a Vette, or a Viper, or a some other modern performance car that handles well.

Another idea would be to run your car against an E body with an Alterkation front and an Air ride 4link rear. Seems like the Air Ride guys like to do demos. Would be fun to see.

dqhemi
03-29-2007, 06:12 AM
John,

Can the E-body version be ordered without the ignition switch?

Nick

We could do it as a special order but would cost more than the B column w/ no key. We debated whether to offer them that way or not and decided it made more sense to just do it with key on column. It's one of the reasons we had these made up as it was alot of work for us to machine brackets etc., to move the key to the dash on an e-body.

dqhemi
03-29-2007, 07:30 AM
Not to argue at all about the competency of the high tech machine and its ability to measure small changes. But I had a teacher many years ago that would say "There's many a slip between the cup and the lip".

If your selling a very competent suspension system at a not cheap price, it doesn't make sense to me to not demonstrate over and over again, its superior performance. And I haven't seen a demo against a Vette, or a Viper, or a some other modern performance car that handles well.

Another idea would be to run your car against an E body with an Alterkation front and an Air ride 4link rear. Seems like the Air Ride guys like to do demos. Would be fun to see.

If you noticed in my last response to your question, I said we would be doing more on track comparisons, especially with modern cars. In addition to the cars you mentioned we're thinking more like Ferrari, Porsche and BMW.

LOL - you're making it harder and harder for me not to tell you what I really think about the products you're mentioning, but that's just not something I do. If you get the opportunity to do it in person somewhere, just look at our stuff and the ones you mention and you will easily see significant differences.

I won't pick apart other people's products. However, engineering and testing aside, if you have a reasonable handle on suspension technology and product design (as in how it's been put together), you will see there are huge differences. Alot of those differences come down to cost and what the intended application is. I'd love to laundry list all those differences for you, but that's just not how I've ever done business.

As far as shoot out type stuff, we're all over it, but it needs to be at a real road race track (not an auto-X) and needs to be covered by a major magazine. I've been pushing several mags for some time to do a real shoot out w/ some simple rules - I've even offered to pay for the track.

One little anecdote for you on the technology. When we were running our Level II setup on the 4-post rig, the engineer that would review the runs would go through all kinds of data after each run and identified something going on at the rear of the car, but only at a specific frequency (the runs are done at varying speeds from big slow movements to very fast small ones). So they set the rig to run continually at that specific frequency and we crawled under the car to try and identify it. We did find it and ended up making a change to one of the mounts that's incorporated in the production units and the cars we build. Something like that you would probably never be able to find otherwise. I could easily write a book on all that we did, why it was done and what we found.

We've got alot going on and I don't want to let the cat out of the bag right now on a number of things that relate to what you're asking about. It's just going to take a little time.

Dodgenut64
03-29-2007, 07:39 PM
Its ashame there isnt enough people racing A bodies on road courses, they weigh less then E and B bodies and seem cheaper to go racing with. The Early A bodies did well in the Trans Am series when it first started up. Chrysler should have kept using the A bodies in the Trans Am series, they probably would have faired better then the heavy E-bodies. Of course They didnt see the series as important enough to keep involved, i guess Nascar and drag racing was more important.:(

californiacuda
03-29-2007, 11:24 PM
Thanks for the response, look foreward to yout tests, any thoughts on a sequential shift, high hp transmission for mopars?

dqhemi
03-30-2007, 05:16 AM
Thanks for the response, look foreward to yout tests, any thoughts on a sequential shift, high hp transmission for mopars?

We can do a build with that right now (and will).

Not something we would want to sell right now as a kit or package, but if a customer wanted it in a build - no issue at all. There are a couple of people we are talking to about building real 200 MPH cars and that would be part of our recommended build spec.

californiacuda
03-30-2007, 07:32 AM
I am building a 572 Keith Black aluminum block hemi, twin turbo, dual spark plug head engine for a crazy street car, similar to Project F Bomb in Hot Rod Magazine. Any thoughts would be appreciated. I have a 70 cuda body with a 4l80e trans and a Ford 9in rear end.

dqhemi
03-30-2007, 09:40 AM
I am building a 572 Keith Black aluminum block hemi, twin turbo, dual spark plug head engine for a crazy street car, similar to Project F Bomb in Hot Rod Magazine. Any thoughts would be appreciated. I have a 70 cuda body with a 4l80e trans and a Ford 9in rear end.

Sound like some very cool projects.

Feel free to give me a call, I'd be happy to help you out.

My contact info is on our website and I will PM it to you.