View Full Version : A great Security System to help you Keep your Car
tyoneal
05-31-2007, 01:13 AM
To all:
I read about this in one of the Car Magazines and after reading about, "Air Rides" car getting Stolen, I thought I would post it here for your review.
I think this would be a great addition to the Radio Signal security devises on the market, or possibly by itself.
Please give me your thoughts and suggestions.
Thanks,
Ty O'Neal
http://www.nohotwire.com/index.html
Flash68
05-31-2007, 02:05 AM
I would be interested to hear others' opinions as well. I emailed Ravelco for pricing and they quoted me $399 for their whole system installed by a local rep/dealer.
87wildside
05-31-2007, 06:46 AM
Most high end/ custom thefts are done using a trailer or tow truck with a cover over the car. These types of vehicles stand out too much to just drive away in. I personally prefer the in line brake locks. I'll look for a link.
Fluid Power
05-31-2007, 06:46 AM
It would have to be used with something else, such as Prodigy's snitch. I have a friend that had his Mustang ripped off in broad daylight at work. The theives brought in a roll back and loaded it up. One of his co-workers stopped by his cube and asked him what was wrong with his car, as they saw it being loaded up on the rollback!
Darren
Mkelcy
05-31-2007, 07:00 AM
You can remove a thief's ability to drive the car away in many ways. For example, I have a hood lock/starter kill switch, remote battery disconnect with a hidden switch and a removeable steering wheel with a steel cover that gets locked over the end of the steering column (all of which, by the way cost less than $399). All can be oprated from the driver's seat. None of that, however, will protect the car from a thief with a rollback.
I've considered some form of "Denver" boot for overnight parking while on long trips, but I still think you need some form of radio security device that will broadcast where the car is.
T Bell
05-31-2007, 09:18 AM
I agree that both a engine disabler and a GPS based system is needed nowadays. It's just too easy for a thief to "tow" your car.
tyoneal
06-02-2007, 03:21 PM
I agree with you guys regarding having several different devices to protect your car.
From original Post:
"I think this would be a great addition to the Radio Signal security devises on the market, or possibly by itself."
Since this was approved in California, I thought it might also help with insurance cost.
To me our cars are BIG targets and always will be. Whether the cost is $399.00 or $3999.00 makes no difference at all. Security is NOT a place to try to cut cost and be cheap.
"Pro-Touring", is about bringing the latest and greatest technology to our classic cars. For me this is a statement which includes all areas of a advanced Technology that is adaptable to modern automobiles.
All the items listed in this post would probably be good additions, especially if you have $50,000+ Dollars, and countless hours of your time invested in your, "Baby".
I doubt anyone on the forum, who got their car pinched would disagree.
Thoughts?
Ty O'Neal
zbugger
06-02-2007, 07:36 PM
My girlfriend is getting a LoJack for her Scion TC. If my Camaro was running, and I had the money, I'd be getting it too. It's the only system that's hooked up to the police network. It's trackable by the police, and is "visible" inside buildings and underground, unlike most GPS systems. We got a good deal through the dealership where our Camaro club meets. Personally, I think it's the best thing out there. Well, that and a standard alarm system. Oh, and there's ways around the engine kill systems. It's called towing or pushing the car. Happens a lot.
T Bell
06-02-2007, 08:01 PM
I didn't know that GPS couldn't be tracked inside buildings and underground. LoJack does seem like a better deal, then.
Croaker
06-04-2007, 05:58 PM
The Snitch system Prodigy was posting about sounded like it might be more viable than Lojack.
http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=8267&highlight=Snitch
RedRyder
06-04-2007, 08:11 PM
Yeah, that Snitch sounds like the ticket. I plan on putting one in my car when it's done. Anyone tested it to see what kind of structures/materials can block the signal?
mstennes
06-06-2007, 06:45 AM
Theres some good info here, I'm going GPS Snitch and the No Hot Wire.
Musclerodz
06-06-2007, 07:45 AM
Yeah, that Snitch sounds like the ticket. I plan on putting one in my car when it's done. Anyone tested it to see what kind of structures/materials can block the signal?
Snitch uses current cell phone technology, so if you have a cell signal, the Snitch is trackable. About the only thing beside no towers were you are at so block tracking would be a shipping container and by then it is too late anyways. We also have the Snitch available in our store.
Mike
I am a bit skeptical on that system. While im sure it's highly effective for your every day car, as someone pointed out it's not going to jack for a custom restomod. They flatbed the cars out of there. And then it's just as simple as disconnecting all that garbage and reinstalling factory stuff. And by the looks of it, the idea behind it is that only some of the wires on the plug are issuing the start command. With others being dummies. Im sure they are all hot, so you cant guess by splicing the wires. But I would guess that you could make a device that test all the combos in that 8 minute time frame they tout. A "brute force" crack of sorts.
tyoneal
06-06-2007, 11:12 PM
I am a bit skeptical on that system. While im sure it's highly effective for your every day car, as someone pointed out it's not going to jack for a custom restomod. They flatbed the cars out of there. And then it's just as simple as disconnecting all that garbage and reinstalling factory stuff. And by the looks of it, the idea behind it is that only some of the wires on the plug are issuing the start command. With others being dummies. Im sure they are all hot, so you cant guess by splicing the wires. But I would guess that you could make a device that test all the combos in that 8 minute time frame they tout. A "brute force" crack of sorts.
Nick:
I understand what you are saying, however since it has worked successfully in the worse area of the country and hasn't been defeated yet, it would seem to me that it would at the very least be helpful anywhere else in the country.
Of course nothing is perfect, however making your car more difficult than the cars around it definitely has an advantage. I guess what would also help, is something that would completely lock ALL four wheels, where rolling the car on a flatbed would even be a PITA.
Further thoughts?
Ty O'Neal
Flash68
06-06-2007, 11:30 PM
My girlfriend is getting a LoJack for her Scion TC. If my Camaro was running, and I had the money, I'd be getting it too. It's the only system that's hooked up to the police network. It's trackable by the police, and is "visible" inside buildings and underground, unlike most GPS systems. We got a good deal through the dealership where our Camaro club meets. Personally, I think it's the best thing out there. Well, that and a standard alarm system. Oh, and there's ways around the engine kill systems. It's called towing or pushing the car. Happens a lot.
Zbugger-
I have 2 friends in the San Rafael PD dept and they are not that impressed with lojack, and don't recommend it for our cars. It isn't very accurate because they triangulate the signal, and if you think the police response time is really fantastic all the time, guess again. He told me a couple stories where they couldn't find anything - not even close to pinpointing the location! Doesn't give me much comfort/peace of mind using that system, and that thing is expensive!
I think the Snitch looks better than Lojack and is much cheaper.
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