Good for you Steve & Dave,awesome job taking the title again this year...:thumbsup: :cheers: :woot: :willy: :bow: :hail:

I don't know what people will think of my idea, but I'm just trying to simplify and level the scoring system. I would hope the end result would provide less drama? The main issue that I have is that the style had the overwhelming deciding factor in the event based on it's 0-100 scale where each point added 1 second to the overall time.

I'm not going to get into who should have won, but I simply don't want people to be penalized on something that's subjective. Personally, I didn't care that many seconds were added to overall times when the AX and Speed/Stop were decided by tenths or hundredths of a second.

So here's my opinion - which is exactly that, just an opinion - I would like to see each single event pay points. Add up all the points for the overall win. If there's a tie, then the quicker lap on the road course breaks the tie.

3 of the events are individually worth 20% of the score, but the road course is worth 40% of the overall score.


Road Course:

1st - 20pts
2nd - 18
3rd - 16
4th - 14
5th - 12
6th - 10
7th - 8
8th - 6
9th - 4
10th - 2



Autocross:

1st - 10pts
2nd - 8
3rd - 7
4th - 6
5th - 5
6th - 4
7th - 3
8th - 2
9th - 1
10th - 0



Speed/Stop:

1st - 10pts
2nd - 8
3rd - 7
4th - 6
5th - 5
6th - 4
7th - 3
8th - 2
9th - 1
10th - 0



Styling

1st - 10pts
2nd - 8
3rd - 7
4th - 6
5th - 5
6th - 4
7th - 3
8th - 2
9th - 1
10th - 0

We don't know that yet..

There's no way they used a 0-100 SECOND method for this. I know 8.5 seconds was added to my score for the style part. It's obvious that I didn't score an 8.5 our of a hundred for Penny. Especially since the roadster shop Corvette won with a 8.x score and the Mustang came in second with a score of 15.

In any event, I will await Jimi's explanation and I hope they can fix the rules for next year.

I also don't know if I agree that the Road Course should weigh more than the other events.. just because some people don't like it. Autocross if more of a test of a STREET CAR than the road course is.

Just my .02

I like it Scott. I second this! :thumbsup: Well, the revamp and scoring. The weighting could be discussed. If it is a true "Street Car" test, than I think a ride and drive should be added. Things like interior noise, ride comfort, cabin temperature, street manners etc. should be evaluated. If not, it becomes who can make the fastest race car street legal. I think it should be just the opposite. Take a great street car and make it as close to a race car as possible without losing it's "Steet Car" image. I think Bad Penny is just that along with quite a few of the competitors. It could however get out of hand quickly without some rule changes. I could have made the car in my avatar street legal and done very well performance wise. But would I have called it a "Street Car" nope.

The percentages can be set to whatever. They could all be equal. I just threw that out there. :cheers:

As far as the 0-100 styling points, Jimi said that during the awards presentation at the end of the day. He said the black Mustang that was in the Baer booth scored 15 points and the Roadster Shop Vette scored 7 points. He pointed that out because the Mustang won the Gran Turismo award at SEMA, yet finished 2nd in the OUSCI styling category.

I should also congratulate you and Team BP on the win. :thumbsup:

Just don't say I need to have wipers!!! lol

And that's why the 1-100 deal doesn't make sense since I was told I gained 8.5 seconds from that style catagory.

Like I said, let's wait for the explanation and then we can ask for revisions for next year.

First off - congratulations to Steve and Dave on Bad Penny’s repeat as winner of the OPTIMA Ultimate Street Car Invitational; regardless of any other considerations, Steve and Dave worked their butts off on Saturday and the month before to get Penny ready and at the end of they day they pulled it off. David first noticed that the power steering pump was going away on the orientation laps and when Steve hit the autocross it was done; while the autocross course was not as demanding (from a steering point of view) as some of the others that Steve has tackled, it was still a ton of work to drive with no power assist. That they were able to (a) find a power steering pump in Pahrump and (b) get it changed in time to run the road course and finish the event was a testament to their dedication and in the end their hard work paid off. Great job!

Second – hats off to OPTIMA Batteries for putting on the event and to all of the sponsors that made it possible. All of the controversies – tires, drivers, invitees, scoring, and anything else – aside, the fact is that this was only the second time that the event had been held and it was a TON OF FUN! The quality of the cars there was awesome and – for the most part - they were being driven to their very limits. It was great to see guys like Larry C. driving the absolute butt of Motiv8r and loving it. To see Bill and Yancy and Mark and Charlie and a host of others driving their cars to the very limit was incredible and without FM3 and OPTIMA stepping up to organize the event and sponsors like Ridetech and K&N it never would have happened.

Third – it’s a competitive event and we (pro-touring) remain the cream of the crop. Throughout “the week” there were opinions galore on who would win and why. There was discussion about practicing, new vs. old, race tires vs. street tires, and pro’s vs. joes and in the end OLD JOES won the day. But a couple of big worries were disproved – new cars don’t automatically have an advantage over our old cars and professional drivers are not a magic bullet, nor are pre race practice sessions. Some of the best drivers IN THE WORLD were in attendance at the race and they did not dominate the competitions where they were expected to… Paul Tracy put some fast road course laps down in the F/M 2010 Camaro but he did not walk away from the field at all… nor did Tanner Faust dominate on an autocross course that was seemingly designed with drifting in mind. The Nissan GTR was not a factor, nor was the AMG Mercedes or any of the other new cars. Pro Touring and vintage G Machines truly ruled the day. And everyone was pushing hard – as shown by the attrition and off road excursions. It was really cool.

I think it was a great day and want to congratulate everyone who was fortunate enough to participate – both as competitors and volunteers. And I think that the volunteers need to be recognized as well – they worked tirelessly throughout the day and were also a big part of making the whole deal possible.

We had a lot of fun and it was great seeing everyone there. For my part I want to thank Robert for the ride to Pahrump on Saturday and (as always) Dave and Mary for the help getting the car ready.

Well stated James! Congrats on another event under the belt of the OLC! Awesome car.