No wait......That's Mr Potato head with his angry eyes on

HAHAHAHAHA

:lmao:

I'm envisioning a similar look to that on the faces of numerous gas station attendants when Dave and Rob pull in.

Oh man I love it LOL :lmao:

Amazing setup btw!

Back on topic a bit, well not really on the original topic...but the new topic...

Greg, you mentioned that you are setting the garage up with the ability to wash the vehicles inside. Are you sloping the floors to drains in the centers of the floors or slanting all of the floors towards one end or the garage doors perhaps? I've seen it done both ways with varying degrees of success and unsuccessfulness. Just curious if you are that far along in the planning stage and which way you are leaning?

When I first saw your plans, I was thinking the shop area was going in the building up by the motor court, but now I can see that it looks like that is going to be the "finished car garage" and the shop and work area is going to be under the house by where the toterhome and the daily drivers will park.

If that is correct, are you concerned about fumes from the shop getting into the living areas... Paint, welding, parts solvent etc?

There's so much SNOW here -- that all the houses are built with drains in the floors so that the snow melts and has a place to go. The shop will have SEVERAL drains for water to run to.

The garage/shop area is being treated as an S2 Commercial building (even though it's part of the house)... and it has it's own ventilation system - separate heat - and A/C.

It will also be built with "make up air" system.

It's all solid poured in place concrete -- including the ceiling of the shop - forming basically a big ass cement box. There's separate mechanical spaces to serve the house so there's no penetrations thru the ceiling into the house areas. That's why there's a sub floor on top of the concrete roof of the shop.

I didn't really understand your question about parking.... so I'll just say -- the shop is the shop -- for the toterhome and trailer -- and my track cars and hot rods -- There is a SEPARATE 4 car garage for the daily driven stuff up and to the left with it's own driveway etc.

Most of the time - after being serviced - the track cars go back in to the trailer - ready to go. Since they're not capable of being street driven - having access to them isn't a requirement... and I'll NEVER park my pick up truck in the shop unless I'm loading or unloading something. We just did a mock up drawing showing spaces so I could have an idea of access etc. That was so we could get the support columns in the right places (to hold up the house but not be in my way!).

NO DAILY DRIVERS EVER GO IN THE SHOP.... only cool stuff goes in there. My trailer is a 3 car stacker -- so it can take 3 of my 4 cars.... and we have 3 daily drivers -- so the 4th "hot rod" can go up with them in the other garage if I'm doing something that requires all the floor space I can muster...

Lance ---


This is the SEPARATE (from shop that's UNDER the house) 4 car garage... for the normal stuff. Note there's no mechanical stuff in here -- no hot water heaters or furnaces etc. Those are in their own mechanical rooms in various locations in the house.


NOTE TOO --- 4 drains. One in the center of each space --- under the cars to catch the snow melt.






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I gotcha... that makes sense.

They started building suspended floor garages around here a few years ago, mainly due to fill reasons but it morphed into a feature. Basically they build a subgrade concrete room and form and pour a floor above it which becomes the floor for the normal attached garage. This gives the home a fully concrete room below the garage to use as storage, safe room (think tornadoes), wine cellar, whatever. At first I was leery of the suspended garage floors and their strength but they seem to have all that figured out and it works real well.

Sounds like you are going to have kinda the same deal, only you'll have doors on the end of it to drive your stuff in and out of.

Do they do any geothermal heat pumps out that way or is it all gas or propane forced air heat?

Yes they do -- and in fact -- they can be REQUIRED... depending on the size of the house etc. I'm not sure whether or not we'll have that requirement but we don't expect to.

We did have a discussion this week about SOLAR but solar is not really suited for the winter temps here... so it's only used as a "supplement" to the "sow melt" systems for driveways and walkways etc -- and these still require boilers.
Our house has no South or Southwest facing rooflines to install Solar on -- just due to the orientation of the rooflines - so we don't plan to use any.

The roofs on houses here are built so that the SNOW DOES NOT MELT..... weird because that means you have a big snow load on the roof.... but what they don't want is melting snow running all over and then it freezes and turns to ice -- so they construct the roof area to be COLD. Go figure.... but it makes sense once you're here.

Love that you have built in accommodations for your dog(s) Greg, we are dog people too and understand that completely. Looks good... can't wait to watch as it goes forward.

The "mud room" -- which is really necessary over here with the hiking and mountain biking etc... is dual purpose -- to clean poor little Stella off --- and maybe need to leave her there to dry... but then we realized we should be able to leave her there and have her be able to get outside for business.... Gwen already has plans for one additional Lab and perhaps two more (for 3).... so we MUST accommodate the menagerie!


One of the main - in fact THE main reason we switched cars out -- is to be able to have Stella with us. We go - she goes.