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Blake Foster 08-09-2019 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RT_66_Pro_Touring (Post 695554)
Here's how I think you could differentiate yourself from that market segment:
Viking Crusader struts w/ stock location springs (allows for 275 front tire or 315 if you get the offset perfect) and rear coil overs valved for autox. Currently the choices are Koni, custom AFCO or JRI. You could slot in the middle, be affordable and valved to your recommended spring rate
Front springs, weight jacks and Camber plates
Drop spindle w/ ackerman correction that bolts on OEM 4th gen Camaro OR Willwood SLC56 calipers
A splined front sway bar and then recommend (or even offer) a matched rear bar
Your current torque arm and bolt-in adjustable cross member
You could package up the front for ~$3,000 or $4,250 w/ K-Member/A-Arms (if you even care to compete in that space) If it were me, I'd offer A-Arms for the stock K-Member so you wouldn't send a customer to another vendor and because the A-Arms are easy to design. So call it $3,500 for the front w/ A-Arms

The rear should be priced like your other torque arm packages @ ~$2,500

That would sell like HOTCAKES!

The price point would be:
More expensive than Konis package but w/ superior shocks
About the same as an AFCO package but solving the anti-ackerman issue
Far less than a JRI package

we will probably go down that road as well. but wanted to start with the high end product like our other Extreme line up. we have 5 other cars to do as well c2 c3 Corvette Square body C10 as a couple examples. and yes bolt on stuff for all of them as well.

CamaroAJ 08-09-2019 08:36 AM

Consumer: Hey, we want 3rd gen Camaro stuff because the currant available upgrades are just ok.

Company: Here is what we have, it costs this much and is the best performing design currently out right now.

Consumer: Wow, yeah never mind I just want modified parts that are already available because its cheaper. Why couldn't you just do this instead?

Hugger67RSSS 08-09-2019 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CamaroAJ (Post 695563)
Consumer: Hey, we want 3rd gen Camaro stuff because the currant available upgrades are just ok.

Company: Here is what we have, it costs this much and is the best performing design currently out right now.

Consumer: Wow, yeah never mind I just want modified parts that are already available because its cheaper. Why couldn't you just do this instead?

Yep, that’s not my stance though. Not sure how far I want to go until I see pics and fab time involved but it will be a better option than others. I’m sure you need a test car that is not shop owned right Blake?!

Blake Foster 08-09-2019 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CamaroAJ (Post 695563)
Consumer: Hey, we want 3rd gen Camaro stuff because the currant available upgrades are just ok.

Company: Here is what we have, it costs this much and is the best performing design currently out right now.

Consumer: Wow, yeah never mind I just want modified parts that are already available because its cheaper. Why couldn't you just do this instead?

LOL i will take that as humor !! it would have been EASY to do caster/camber plates and LCA's

Blake Foster 08-09-2019 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Hugger67RSSS (Post 695576)
Yep, that’s not my stance though. Not sure how far I want to go until I see pics and fab time involved but it will be a better option than others. I’m sure you need a test car that is not shop owned right Blake?!

yes non shop owned test cars are always GREAT!!

going to try and post god pics today!! weekend PORN!!

Blake Foster 08-09-2019 01:07 PM

https://imgur.com/JlVQRQu

https://imgur.com/9X53EMG

https://imgur.com/AzGZxSN



This shows the center section "Subframe Connector" part the front pads were designed as a roll bar mounting point as well with top and bottom plates that can bolt or weld in.

A little more involved that LCA's and camber plates hence the cost, but much less work then replacing the entire floor since it all contours to the bottom side and rockers.

Enjoy ill be back in the office Monday to take CC#'s

Flash68 08-09-2019 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroAJ (Post 695563)
Consumer: Hey, we want 3rd gen Camaro stuff because the currant available upgrades are just ok.

Company: Here is what we have, it costs this much and is the best performing design currently out right now.

Consumer: Wow, yeah never mind I just want modified parts that are already available because its cheaper. Why couldn't you just do this instead?

LOL... nailed it.

HellPhish89 08-11-2019 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroAJ (Post 695563)
Consumer: Hey, we want 3rd gen Camaro stuff because the currant available upgrades are just ok.

Company: Here is what we have, it costs this much and is the best performing design currently out right now.

Consumer: Wow, yeah never mind I just want modified parts that are already available because its cheaper. Why couldn't you just do this instead?

From the start I've pointed out what was wanted. Even referencing the SLA kits that exist. Dont start blaming the potential customers for someone elses design decisions.

CamaroAJ 08-11-2019 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HellPhish89 (Post 695610)
From the start I've pointed out what was wanted. Even referencing the SLA kits that exist. Dont start blaming the potential customers for someone elses design decisions.

My comment wasn’t directed at anyone. It was a general statement that can be applied to almost anything in the aftermarket automotive world. Remember when everyone wanted carbon fiber first gen stuff and when a company built exactly that everyone complained that it was to expensive?

chetly 08-12-2019 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HellPhish89 (Post 695610)
From the start I've pointed out what was wanted. Even referencing the SLA kits that exist. Dont start blaming the potential customers for someone elses design decisions.

Well Blake already answered why your idea wasn't used. Why build a kit like everyone else or copy someone elses design when they can use their design that follows their philosophy and expected performance levels?


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