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makoshark 12-29-2012 11:06 AM

I prefer the look of the stock grill over a billet one

Matt@BOS 12-29-2012 11:16 AM

My vote is for an original one, unless the billet one is painted/anodized/powdercoated black. You have lots of more modern looking finishes on the car, i.e. all of the carbon, and I think a bright grille would clash with the theme of the car.

Even I'm excited to see your car getting wrapped up! :thumbsup:

Matt

geberhard 12-29-2012 11:18 AM

Stock grille with stainless hardware. Billet grilles look kinda 80s on some rides

Bsinclair 12-29-2012 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John510 (Post 454140)
Time to order my front RS grille kit. What would look better with no front bumper? A billet one or the original one?

i am in the same boat as you as i have a brand new rs grille and headlight assembly but plan on no front bumper. im leaning towards selling them to replace it with a std grill and lights...

Flash68 12-29-2012 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John510 (Post 452468)

How far forward is that engine mounted?

John510 12-29-2012 12:38 PM

Im not sure how far forward it is. I am using Energy suspension LS swap mounts though.

Vegas69 12-29-2012 12:49 PM

Looks like 4-5 inches...

Flash68 12-29-2012 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 454171)
Looks like 4-5 inches...

:eek:

John, you're okay with that??

John510 12-29-2012 12:52 PM

Is it not supposed to be like that? According to Speedtech it is normal and installed correctly?

https://lateral-g.net/forums/show...t=36627&page=2

Vegas69 12-29-2012 12:57 PM

I wouldn't say wrong, but definitely different than factory.

GregWeld 12-29-2012 01:05 PM

Yeah - looks like the motor mount adaptor plates could be on wrong... No way there's that much space between the firewall and the V/C's.

John510 12-29-2012 01:07 PM

Well this sucks. Which plates should I be using for the Speedtech frame?

Matt@BOS 12-29-2012 02:19 PM

I have 3.5" of space between the passenger side valve cover and the firewall on my Camaro. You should probably ask Blake what he thinks is acceptable and/or what mounts he would use. If he knows of a set of mounts that that do what you want, there is no sense in ordering other ones and having to "experiment," which usually involves time, money, energy and beer if you get frustrated. Just my two cents.

Blake Foster 12-29-2012 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 454181)
Yeah - looks like the motor mount adaptor plates could be on wrong... No way there's that much space between the firewall and the V/C's.

Yep thats correct.
as I said in the other forum on the same question.
We have experemented with moving the engine back 1.75" as I did in my Nova. Here is a list of the issues that needed to be rectified.
Header to Firewall
Steering shaft to Header
Block to rack and pinion fitting
Alternator Low mount CTSV to subframe
Alternator to motot mount.
Bellhousing to firewall, ( i have to remove the subframe to change the clutch)
master cylinder to valvecover (depending on both)
So after all that we decided to keep the engine in the same spot as the BBC and SBC
It makes for an install that the guy at home can do with no issues. I think that is what the majority of customers want rather than the engine moved back 1 to 1.5"

John510 12-29-2012 02:46 PM

I have 4" between firewall and valve cover. Keep in mind that is not a factory firewall guys.

I have a feeling my engine sits where its supposed to but the modified firewall makes it look like it sits too far forward?

If im going to be opening a can of headaches here then Ill leave it the way it is. Im trying to get my car ready for Pomona here.

GregWeld 12-29-2012 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blake Foster (Post 454215)
Yep thats correct.
as I said in the other forum on the same question.
We have experemented with moving the engine back 1.75" as I did in my Nova. Here is a list of the issues that needed to be rectified.
Header to Firewall
Steering shaft to Header
Block to rack and pinion fitting
Alternator Low mount CTSV to subframe
Alternator to motot mount.
Bellhousing to firewall, ( i have to remove the subframe to change the clutch)
master cylinder to valvecover (depending on both)
So after all that we decided to keep the engine in the same spot as the BBC and SBC
It makes for an install that the guy at home can do with no issues. I think that is what the majority of customers want rather than the engine moved back 1 to 1.5"



I have no idea what you just said..... in that "yep that's correct" as in the motor mounts might be on wrong? Or in "Yep that correct" as in that's the clearance you built into your sub?


All of this kind of stuff is so hard to "judge" just looking at photos.... But it "appears" to have a LOT of bellhousing "exposed".


:cheers:

youthpastor 12-29-2012 04:04 PM

http://chrisholstromconcepts.com/wor...91902669_o.jpg

http://chrisholstromconcepts.com/wor...nginewire3.jpg

3.5 inches pass valve cover 4.25 drivers to the firewall. stock Speedtech mounts shoved all the way back on the slots to the frame. Rack, headers, ATS oil pan..everything fits great. there is enough room for the electric fans.
http://chrisholstromconcepts.com/wor...red-z/0072.jpg

Blake Foster 12-29-2012 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 454231)
I have no idea what you just said..... in that "yep that's correct" as in the motor mounts might be on wrong? Or in "Yep that correct" as in that's the clearance you built into your sub?


All of this kind of stuff is so hard to "judge" just looking at photos.... But it "appears" to have a LOT of bellhousing "exposed".


:cheers:

LOL Ok, Yep the way it is sitting is Correct, John did not use the Speedtech ATS motor mounts but that does not seem to have affected anything.

John did smooth the FW which does normally move it back slightly.

:cheers:

John510 01-16-2013 04:43 PM

Some updates. Front grille kit is on. Car is wired up and ready to go to the paint booth to spray the stripes on it next week.

http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/c...D387004872.jpg
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/c...D399FA11F5.jpg
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/c...D3A6927044.jpg

cencalc6 01-16-2013 06:29 PM

Looking Good John! :thumbsup:

Vince@Meanstreets 01-17-2013 12:53 AM

getting close John, please tell me the guy writing on your header panel is the same guy that gets to buff the clear coat. :D

johnzSS 01-17-2013 10:48 AM

Sick build! Are we gonna start seeing this car soon prowling the streets of the Bay? Im in the East Bay as well and will keep an eye out for this thing!


Subscribed.

John

John510 01-30-2013 07:03 PM

A few updates....

http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/c...40964D8A54.jpg
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/c...40A21F01FB.jpg
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/c...40AA034A49.jpg
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/c...40692F263B.jpg
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/c...566BEFE509.jpg

cencalc6 01-30-2013 07:10 PM

Looking Really Good John!

waynieZ 01-30-2013 07:20 PM

Its looking awesome John!

214Chevy 01-30-2013 07:25 PM

That black is sinister!! :guns: I like it!!:thumbsup:

Lenie 01-30-2013 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John510 (Post 461379)

John, really looks good. What is the material you're running down the center of your center console to get those radius's? Really turned out nice.

John510 01-30-2013 10:55 PM

Its made from wood and leather/microsuede

Vince@Meanstreets 01-31-2013 12:34 AM

thats gonna smell nice...

chr2002ca 01-31-2013 10:00 AM

Looking awesome John. :thumbsup:

Ron in SoCal 01-31-2013 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 461436)
thats gonna smell nice...

Quote:

Originally Posted by chr2002ca (Post 461501)
Looking awesome John. :thumbsup:

Me three. That interior is gonna be sick. Great job John :thumbsup:

John510 01-31-2013 07:48 PM

WCAC shot the front parts today with the stripe layout and WOW did it come out awesome. Cant wait to see it assembled back on the car.:excited: :happy23: Hopefully we can make it to Autorama in February..


http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/c...psc61fe036.jpg
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/c...ps49ede0c8.jpg

waynieZ 01-31-2013 08:00 PM

Very Nice !

srh3trinity 01-31-2013 09:43 PM

Love the stripe. The red, black and carbon is going to be a great combo.

tubbed69 02-01-2013 05:04 AM

stripes really look nice but so does everything else on this build great job

DETON8R 02-01-2013 07:13 AM

Frekin awesome John!!!
Not much more to go and you should be driving it.:thumbsup:

frankv11 02-01-2013 07:54 AM

John. Just read your whole thread , man you had some hurdles and glad you were able to keep it. Hella of a job:thumbsup:

Rybar 02-02-2013 10:41 AM

Just checked your thread, stripes look killer John. :thumbsup:

Greg from Aus 02-02-2013 03:36 PM

Really coming together well John, not long now. :popcorn2:

Greg

John510 02-15-2013 05:50 PM

Almost complete! Just needs interior and a few minor odds and ends. Probably going to lower the coils down to drop it another inch or so....

http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/c...ps13d2c23c.jpg
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/c...ps1628771e.jpg
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/c...psb04fe9b5.jpg


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