And you thought the Ford purists were mad, Just wait until the Mopar guys get wind of this!:brix:

It would take bigger balls to show up at the Knott's Berry Farm Ford show with it ;)

That is one I don't see the need for. I was impressed with the first Hemi conversion I did back in 05, 5.7 truck motor went 12.4@113 with just a cam and a set of headers. I'm right in the middle of a Gen.3 Hemi conversion in an old truck, its an easy conversion, and I really beleive there is as much if not more potential for big power in these motors, as in the LS stuff. Hell the new 6.4's are 525 HP and you can pick them up new for $6900.

I am so over all the crying over the wrong engine in the wrong car.

:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:

You sir are a very bad man VERY BAD!!!!!!! :P

Sort of with Ron on the Challenger and even though I'm a Mopar guy I'm not a purist by any means...horsepower is horsepower. The new Hemi's do make some serious power, have cross bolted mains, etc. PHR Mag just had their engine shoot out and a 417 CI 3G Hemi won the street division with 675 HP and 604 TQ on 10.5 CR. Not too bad! Not saying an LS isn't a cheaper, easier engine to build but I'm not sure if I see the point either. Plus on the Mopar side the value of that car just sank no matter if the LS is a better fit or not. If a race car yep---street car nope.

But that said, very interested in the project as I'm building a Challenger. Can you let me in on what you have planned for the front suspension?

Thanks-Wes

I'm with you guys on this too. I'm going to enjoy watching this build come about regardless of what engine is in the car. However, for whatever reason, my initial response was "I certainly wouldn't do it that way". The weird thing is that I don't have that response at all with a Ford, ever. No idea why as there are some killer Ford builds going around that I like seeing as well. Maybe it's the fact that Mopars just aren't that prevalent in the PT world. I dunno. This car's going to be badass no matter what. That I am certain of. Good luck Cris:thumbsup:

It has already started! :D

That Mustang is currently being converted back to stock.. & has been sold..

I forgot you were a Mopar guy! I always wanted to do a Hemi Conversion but in this Challenger we will be doing what owner wants Pro-Tour Trans Am theme TA.. He just happens to like LS engines.. & has one that has the perfect HP & TQ for the events we attend thru out the year.. Looking forward to doing the vintage flares..

But if ever wanted to go Mopar power that would be an easy conversion.. When we are doing the build.. I will make sure that I leave that option open..

This is our theme..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...7569-700-0.jpg


If allowed.. I will cut up the front frame rails & impliment one of my Camaro sub-frames just like DSE is doing on that 69 Charger they are currently building..

[QUOTE=MoparCar;453064]Sort of with Ron on the Challenger and even though I'm a Mopar guy I'm not a purist by any means...horsepower is horsepower. The new Hemi's do make some serious power, have cross bolted mains, etc. PHR Mag just had their engine shoot out and a 417 CI 3G Hemi won the street division with 675 HP and 604 TQ on 10.5 CR. Not too bad! Not saying an LS isn't a cheaper, easier engine to build but I'm not sure if I see the point either. Plus on the Mopar side the value of that car just sank no matter if the LS is a better fit or not. If a race car yep---street car nope.

But that said, very interested in the project as I'm building a Challenger. Can you let me in on what you have planned for the front suspension?

I was hunting for Ali's 'I'm a bad man' quote but couldn't find it:

That green TA Challenger is sick! I'll use it for inspiration on my build too. :thumbsup:

I agree. Would love to see more details on that car.

EDIT: Oh, and Chris, congrats on getting this build. Always loved those cars and am lookin forward to watching the progress.

Cris,
Can you do us Mopar guys a big favor and build your front clip specifically for the Challenger so we have a great set up for our builds and not just modify a Camaro/GM clip to fit? It seems that would be a win win in my opinion. You'd have a product to sell to us PT non purist Mopar guys! I saw what DSE Is doing on their Charger build but they sort of went the short route since originally they were going to use their universal X595 crossmember but instead used a GM front.

Wes

Wes- Sorry it took me a while to reply.. Today I got a call about doing a 69 Charger.. Suppose to meet next to discuss build details & if I get the green light for this build then I can justify the cost of desiging a new suspension around the Mopar frame rails.. I will let you know if I move forward..

BTW- the Charger will get a Gen 3 426 Hemi.. :D

I am sure you'll get the car your work is top notch.

Ps if you need a Hemi I know where there is one in Florida. I was going yo but it for the cuda project. But that is at least year off.

Thanks Marty! I will keep in mind that you have a Hemi to sell..

Got a busy month for January.. got a 62 Impala coming in for some work.. Pull the frame off .. cut the floors out & the list goes on.. :unibrow:

Been watching you work and have to say that it has been top notch.

If and when you get to build that Mopar upgrade suspension, please stay away from GM based parts. Use Viper arms or make your own, but please dont mix "C-category". I'm sure you will come up something mind blowing...

The Challenger with LS, there is nightmare for me.. I know: what customer wants...

Cris,
Sounds great! I hope you get the green light on the Charger. Who knows, with possibly both a Challenger and Charger you might just get known as a Mopar shop and not just Camaros ! :D I look forward to the builds!

Wes

We got a Cobra coming next week... Pulling out the SOHC with Hilborn injection... Doing a conversion!! :D :D

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...n/DSC_0070.jpg


Don't worry.. I am not putting a LS engine in it.. I just ordered.. this Coyote engine for it...

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...6007-A50XS.jpg

• 11.0:1 compression ratio
• Mahle hard anodized forged pistons with Graphal low friction coating
• Manley H-beam connecting rods with ARP2000 bolts
• Lightweight aluminum cylinder block features cross-bolted main bearing caps and thick main bearing bulkheads for bottom-end strength
• Ford Racing Camshafts
o M-6550-M50BINT intake camshaft - 13mm lift / 263 degrees duration
o M-6550-M50BEXH exhaust camshaft - 13mm lift / 290 degrees duration
• Ford Racing M-6675-M50BR 12 quart rear sump oil pan features optimized oil drainback and windage tray to control oil and improve high-rpm performance
• Ford Racing M-6600-50CJ High Performance billet steel oil pump
• Ford Racing M-9424-M50CJ Cobra Jet tuned intake
• Ford Racing M-9926-CJ65 throttle body
• Ford Racing M-9593-LU47 47 lb. fuel injectors
• Four-valve-per-cylinder BOSS fully CNC ported aluminum heads
• Roller-finger camshaft followers
• Ford Racing M-6513-M50BR Boss valve springs
• Ford Racing M-12A227-CJ13 high RPM pulse ring
• Ford Racing M-8600-M50BALT alternator and mount
• Ford Racing M-6P067-M50B blue coil covers
• Ford Racing M-12405-M50 heat range zero (0) spark
• Ford Racing M-6731-FL820 oil filter

That's really nice. Who manufactured that car?

Hey Chris you guys do top notch builds.

Just wondering any update on the Kuwait 69 camaro??:D

Kirkham Motorsports..

Thank you.. I got a few updates on the 69.. I will post them later today..

Is he selling that Cammer?

It is Keith Craft Cammer built engine! Their is talk about building a stand for it to make it into a coffee table.. :D

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...t_186_ac04.jpg

J/K.. no plans for the motor right now till we find out why it broke...

The problem is on the valve cover.......they circled it so it is easy to find.

Cris, is this engine shipping yet? I've been tempted to pull the trigger on one myself, but wasn't sure they were available yet. Also, is that thing going to fit under the hood of the Cobra, or are you guys going to have to get, "creative?"

Is this one of a pair of specially built Cobras that were featured in Hot Rod or some other big magazine about a year ago? They were custom ordered, and the other one was bronze or some other such material?

The other one has a copper body.. Both are prettymuch 100% one-off CNC aluminum bits underneath.. can't even imagine how much they would've cost to commission...

Sorry but the 427 SOHC is the engine the should be in that car!!!
what a total waste!
:rolleyes:

X100 What he said!:thumbsup:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Not yet Matt.. We thought we had a line on one.. But Roush/Yates got us a subsitute Coyote.. I am sure we will have some issues that will arise when start doing the mock up.. Motor arriving on Friday!

Not a total waste Blake.. The owner has 2 other Kirkham Cobras.. He just wants one with a modern Coyote in it.. We were close to putting a LS3 in it but Roush got us a engine...

:rofl: :rofl:

Man why do that? That SOHC is my all time favorite powerplant. It doesn't sound like he lacks funding so why not just build another car? It wouldn't be much more work. You could hang 10 turbos on that coyote, but itll never equal the legend. It's a flop top too!

For the most part, I agree, the cammer is flat bitchin in that car. But if this guy has two more Kirkham cars and he wants to go beat on this one, I don't blame him for swapping in the coyote.

I'll likely never find out, but I bet that blowing up a 50 thousand dollar bullet would suck......take out coyotes are $4,500.

It would've helped even more if the circle was blue.

We started the mock up of the new engine in Kirkham Cobra! We got plenty of room..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_3059.jpg

i want to see more of the phr cougar.

x2 More cougar:thumbsup:

And send that Cammer my way

The Coyote looked huge on the pallet. Primo must have used his special massage technique....:warning:

Cris,
Did you contract or start on the Challenger and Chargers?

Wes

The Cougar has gone home... We did a few things to it for tech articles for PHR...


Wes- The Charger has not happened... The Challenger will get done but we will not start on it till a couple of months from now.. We need to finish the owners other big build we have here @ the shop... But I will start the front suspension design work late Feb. I have a few other people intrested in me doing some kinda front suspension clip for Mopars!

In the mean time.. here is a rendering that Carter has started for me on the Challenger.. it is looking like it is getting a LS7! :confused59:

:thankyou:

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...tion/test3.jpg