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67XR7 02-09-2013 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 463630)
I always wanted to use this -> :G-Dub:

Now I can. I just bought one of these.
http://www.fordracingparts.com/image...-6007-M50B.jpg
It shipped out yesterday. :G-Dub:

I've got a TR6060 transmission and clutch from a GT500 with under 100 miles on them to try and bolt up. Hopefully it will all bolt together, ha ha, which would allow me start cutting the transmission and fabbing up a transmission mount. In the meantime I've been cleaning up the firewall, and working on mounting a set of Wilwood pedals.
:clap: :clap:

Which one did you get? I know they make a few different power levels.

67XR7 02-09-2013 06:24 PM
Matt you probably dont even have to fab a trans cross member , modern driveline probably has one already available for a few bucks. Give Bruce a call, unless of course you really want to make your own.

67XR7 02-09-2013 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 463655)
Thanks Rob. The rear suspension isn't 100 percent in yet. The housing is bolted up to the control arms, watts link and push rods, but I need to cut the car off the cart to install the torque arm, which means I need to put it on the lift, and I figured I would so I can get a couple of things done when it goes on the lift.

Todd, I could never really put a Chevy in a Ford. We both know resale would be atrocious, and the only other reason to do so would be to go fast for cheap. The upfront savings would definitely be lost down the road, and with me behind the wheel the going fast logic is lost as well. It really doesn't make sense from any perspective, really. :lol:

I am looking forward to the mod motor though. It will get bolt ons and possibly a set of cams that have met Ford Racing's 150,000 mile durability standards. It won't be the most powerful engine but I am much more confident that it will be able to take abuse better than the worked over LS engines I've had.
ehh.... don't worry about power, you'll have a 6 speed so some 4:30's or 4:56's will keep it lively and driveable!

Matt@BOS 02-09-2013 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 463650)
Just heard 3 or 4 of these power around Infineon today at a NASA event. Was commenting on how good they sounded.

Wait..... What? :lostmarbles:
Stop trying to hide it. We can all tell that you love Fords about as blatantly as we can tell that Ellen Degeneres loves women.

67XR7, I bought the 444hp Boss 302 crate. I was looking into the Boss 302/Cobra Jet based Aluminator XS that is supposed to make 500+ but I didn't want to wait until April for an engine. This way I can pick and choose what parts go on. I'll mostly be running it at small tracks and autocrosses since that is nearby, and I don't want to end up with an engine that works better on a road course with open straights to pull high rpms, or best on a drag strip.

p.s. I am looking at possibly having the TR6060 gone through to change to a a .50 6th gear so I can cruise on the highway while having 4.10 or 4.30s.

Flash68 02-09-2013 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 463667)
Stop trying to hide it. We can all tell that you love Fords about as blatantly as we can tell that Ellen Degeneres loves women.
I prefer Jodie Foster, thanks.

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 463667)

p.s. I am looking at possibly having the TR6060 gone through to change to a a .50 6th gear so I can cruise on the highway while having 4.10 or 4.30s.

That's a good call. Did the DSE people do that to theirs? They run 4.56 in that, right?

Vegas69 02-09-2013 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 463667)
Stop trying to hide it. We can all tell that you love Fords about as blatantly as we can tell that Ellen Degeneres loves women.

67XR7, I bought the 444hp Boss 302 crate. I was looking into the Boss 302/Cobra Jet based Aluminator XS that is supposed to make 500+ but I didn't want to wait until April for an engine. This way I can pick and choose what parts go on. I'll mostly be running it at small tracks and autocrosses since that is nearby, and I don't want to end up with an engine that works better on a road course with open straights to pull high rpms, or best on a drag strip.

p.s. I am looking at possibly having the TR6060 gone through to change to a a .50 6th gear so I can cruise on the highway while having 4.10 or 4.30s.
You opened the door so...

He's been married a while now and he's a closet LS guy. His build will drag out so long he'll be watching TV in a lazy boy by the time it's finished.

The Ford fetish is clearly due to his bromance with you know who....you know, the guy with the boat and cast heads on an aluminum block. :lol: :lol:

Matt@BOS 02-09-2013 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 463673)
I prefer Jodie Foster, thanks.




That's a good call. Did the DSE people do that to theirs?
Yeah you're right. What was I thinking. Rob is much more like Ellen. That Jodie Foster analogy fits perfectly. For the record, I'm going to have to disagree with Todd. I'm expecting you to finally get your car together, go out, and after many years, win some big competition. I won't be surprised when you give a speech on the podium where you reveal that you switched sides many years ago and have actually been running a Roush Yates engine all this time.

*edit for relevance* I have no idea if DSE had custom gear ratios spec'd for their transmission. They're running a TKO, which I would guess has to be extra special and/or run powdered magic dust infused in the transmission fluid to allow it to shift at 8000 rpm.

Flash68 02-09-2013 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 67XR7 (Post 463656)
My friend was out there performing the drift demo(he works for cortex), did you get a chance to watch it?
Nope musta missed that. I didn't get there til after 1pm.

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 463658)
Surely you meant to say SONOMA Raceway..... :bitchslap:
I didn't even notice. I stand corrected! :bitchslap:

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 463676)
You opened the door so...

He's been married a while now and he's a closet LS guy. His build will drag out so long he'll be watching TV in a lazy boy by the time it's finished.

The Ford fetish is clearly due to his bromance with you know who....you know, the guy with the boat and cast heads on an aluminum block. :lol: :lol:
I am watching TV right now in my lazyboy so what does that mean? :peepwall:

Rob made a little more power than you out of the same cubes, so ya know, I gotta go with him. :lol:

Hey when is that wedding of yours again? :D

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 463678)
Yeah you're right. What was I thinking. Rob is much more like Ellen. That Jodie Foster analogy fits perfectly. For the record, I'm going to have to disagree with Todd. I'm expecting you to finally get your car together, go out, and after many years, win some big competition. I won't be surprised when you give a speech on the podium where you reveal that you switched sides many years ago and have actually been running a Roush Yates engine all this time.
LOL! What a back handed compliment... I think. :lol: I must admit I did order a nice part from Roush Yates just yesterday.... but they build Chevy stuff too... sometimes.

Vegas69 02-09-2013 07:16 PM
All I remember is more torque, less cubes, smaller cam, less carb, lighter weight, pump gas... HP is just a number.:D

Matt@BOS 02-09-2013 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 463690)
All I remember is more torque, less cubes, smaller cam, less carb, lighter weight, pump gas... HP is just a number.:D
What does the LS engine in my Camaro have to do with this conversation. :lol:

Vegas69 02-09-2013 08:47 PM
:thumbsup: :D :poke:

Flash68 02-09-2013 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 463702)
What does the LS engine in my Camaro have to do with this conversation. :lol:
Since when does an LS engine make decent torque? :peepwall:

Matt@BOS 02-10-2013 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 463726)
Since when does an LS engine make decent torque? :peepwall:
Define decent torque? The Camaro is running a very conservative, safe baseline tune for break in miles. I've been meaning to take it in for a better tune, but it has been so much fun as is that I haven't gotten around to it. The first and only full pass yet, it made 585/565 on a loaded chassis dyno. not bad, right? How much torque do you think it has at 3000rpm?

Flash68 02-10-2013 11:28 AM
I only made that statement due to Todd's usual position that a motor is inadequate if doesn't make over 600 ft lbs at 3000 rpm. like his did... Or something like that. :lol:

Cris@JCG 02-10-2013 11:55 AM
I can confirm that your new LS engine makes pretty damm good torque! Now if you can get the pass door to open.. :mock:

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 463810)
Define decent torque? The Camaro is running a very conservative, safe baseline tune for break in miles. I've been meaning to take it in for a better tune, but it has been so much fun as is that I haven't gotten around to it. The first and only full pass yet, it made 585/565 on a loaded chassis dyno. not bad, right? How much torque do you think it has at 3000rpm?

Matt@BOS 02-10-2013 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 463824)
I only made that statement due to Todd's usual position that a motor is inadequate if doesn't make over 600 ft lbs at 3000 rpm. like his did... Or something like that. :lol:
And like Todd, I was trying to make you guys say something so I could come back and talk about how much better my pile of junk is. :D

If you ran it on an engine dyno next to Rob's archaic monster, I bet it would make 600 ft-lbs at 3000. I don't have a print out, but I want to say it made 400 on the dyno at 2500rpm and 500 around 3000.

Cris, I have the inside door handle working again, so at least I have people can get out now, haha.

FETorino 02-10-2013 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 463829)
And like Todd, I was trying to make you guys say something so I could come back and talk about how much better my pile of junk is. :D

If you ran it on an engine dyno next to Rob's archaic monster, I bet it would make 600 ft-lbs at 3000. I don't have a print out, but I want to say it made 400 on the dyno at 2500rpm and 500 around 3000.

Cris, I have the inside door handle working again, so at least I have people can get out now, haha.
I believe you meant to say Vintage Jewel :action-smiley-027:

Glad to see all that GM advancement in technology in 40 years has allowed you to equal my motors output. :lmao:

:cheers:

GregWeld 02-10-2013 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 463914)
Glad to see all that GM advancement in technology in 40 years has allowed you to equal my motors output. :lmao:

:cheers:


OUCH.....

Matt@BOS 02-11-2013 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 463914)
I believe you meant to say Vintage Jewel :action-smiley-027:

Glad to see all that GM advancement in technology in 40 years has allowed you to equal my motors output. :lmao:

:cheers:
Let's have a chassis dyno day when your car is done! :)

Utterly pathetic of GM, isn't it! You have no idea how happy I was to spend 10k on the latest and greatest piece of Ford technology with overhead cams and variable valve timing and 8000rpm goodness which produces a whopping 444hp.

Vegas69 02-11-2013 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 463810)
Define decent torque? The Camaro is running a very conservative, safe baseline tune for break in miles. I've been meaning to take it in for a better tune, but it has been so much fun as is that I haven't gotten around to it. The first and only full pass yet, it made 585/565 on a loaded chassis dyno. not bad, right? How much torque do you think it has at 3000rpm?
That's damn solid for a little mouse. Cole and Dale are just jealous. They need nascar technology or 50 more cubes to have a sporting chance. :D

Flash68 02-11-2013 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 464108)
That's damn solid for a little mouse. Cole and Dale are just jealous. They need nascar technology or 50 more cubes to have a sporting chance. :D
Isn't this LS we are referring to a big stroked one? How many cubes again? I thought it was like 440+ or something?

Matt@BOS 02-12-2013 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 464133)
Isn't this LS we are referring to a big stroked one? How many cubes again? I thought it was like 440+ or something?
I was never a math or science person, so I prefer to round up or down to nice even numbers. In this case I just call it seven. :)

It is actually 454. I still have some experimenting left to do with it at some point though. I have the individual runner manifold I have slowly been buying little pieces for and when I eventually put that on I might switch to a bigger cam. In theory the two should offset each other and provide the same driveability but with more power throughout the entire range. Right now I don't want to mess with what is working though.

FETorino 02-13-2013 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 464005)
Let's have a chassis dyno day when your car is done! :)

Utterly pathetic of GM, isn't it! You have no idea how happy I was to spend 10k on the latest and greatest piece of Ford technology with overhead cams and variable valve timing and 8000rpm goodness which produces a whopping 444hp.
And how much power should a 302 street engine make :action-smiley-027:

Matt@BOS 02-14-2013 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 464567)
And how much power should a 302 street engine make :action-smiley-027:
You're right. I couldn't ask anything more, from a Ford. :rolleyes:

We just have to accept the fact that the mod motor probably wasn't originally designed with displacement or the need for obscene amounts of power in mind. They're making twice what they made 20 years ago.

I've been reading a little about the Cobra Jet engines, and those are damn impressive for such small displacement. Apparently a bigger bore and larger valves will do wonders for power. I keep having to remind myself that I bought a crate engine for oem reliability/driveability, because it is tempting to see what one of these could be built up to.

Flash68 02-14-2013 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 464611)
Apparently a bigger bore and larger valves will do wonders for power.
Amazing huh. Those redneck Nascar boys figured that one out I guess. :D

67zo6Camaro 02-14-2013 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 463630)
I always wanted to use this -> :G-Dub:

Now I can. I just bought one of these.
http://www.fordracingparts.com/image...-6007-M50B.jpg
It shipped out yesterday. :G-Dub:

I've got a TR6060 transmission and clutch from a GT500 with under 100 miles on them to try and bolt up. Hopefully it will all bolt together, ha ha, which would allow me start cutting the transmission and fabbing up a transmission mount. In the meantime I've been cleaning up the firewall, and working on mounting a set of Wilwood pedals.
Been following along silently.... and I'm still drooling over this motor. Super cool application going in a 69 Camaro :headscratch:

Nessumsar 02-14-2013 11:27 AM
Dang, Matt. This just keeps on getting better and better. Keep it coming!

67XR7 02-24-2013 08:54 PM
Congrats on your invite to OUSCI.

FETorino 02-24-2013 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 67XR7 (Post 466936)
Congrats on your invite to OUSCI.
:thumbsup: Stoked for you :thumbsup:

Ron in SoCal 02-24-2013 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 466947)
:thumbsup: Stoked for you :thumbsup:
Congrats Matt!!!

So HAPPY for you Brother :thumbsup: :cheers:

Flash68 02-24-2013 10:14 PM
And who said no more 69 Camaros allowed at OUSCI? :smiley_smack:

Now you got ALL YEAR to tear the car apart and make changes for November. :lol:

You the man... you the man. Congrats. :thumbsup:

Matt@BOS 02-24-2013 11:45 PM
Thanks guys! The car felt really quick out on the autocross this weekend. I was trying to close the gap between myself and Brian and Bret at the top of the autocross leader board. I was stunned with how fast they were going. They were about a second quicker. :eek:

I was hoping all of my car money would go to the Mustang, but now it looks like the Camaro might be needing a few tweaks. It is pretty close to being dialed in the way I want it, so hopefully tires, maybe a slight wheel rehoop and a bigger rear bar should get the car pretty balanced. Then I just need to work on my driving game a little (okay, maybe a lot).

fleet 02-25-2013 04:15 AM
Congrats Matt. :thumbsup:

chr2002ca 02-25-2013 06:31 AM
Way to go Matt. :thumbsup:

ccracin 02-25-2013 07:13 AM
Congrats Matt! That's something to be proud of! :thumbsup:

Tom.A 02-25-2013 07:19 AM
Congrats on the invite.

WSSix 02-25-2013 08:41 AM
Congrats! Just getting invited would be pretty awesome I think. Just enjoy being there regardless of how you end up doing though I do wish you well there too.

waynieZ 02-25-2013 01:09 PM
Congratulation's Matt! I was just checking out some pictures of the weekend on Face Book.:thumbsup:

Matt@BOS 02-25-2013 11:49 PM
Thanks again guys! I really should get back to posting Mustang stuff on here, but before I do, I need to give a shout out to Rob MacGregor and Mike Casti. A power steering cooler was on my list of things to do, but I figured I would be fine without one for the weekend. Turns out I was wrong. On the road course I managed blow the cap off the reservoir. Vintage Air Frontrunners use GM based pumps but don't use GM reservoirs. I went to the parts store, and nothing fit. Luckily Mike Casti, who is one of the coolest guys you will ever meet, (not to mention awesome car designer) bailed me out by lending me the cap off his '67 since he was just spectating for the day. I was just about to head back down to Best of Show to grab a cap and drive up at the end of the day, but Rob volunteered to grab one from his shop and bring it back Sunday morning. I probably would have been a walking zombie Sunday if I had had to drive down and back Saturday night.

GregWeld 02-26-2013 06:22 AM
That's what I love about car people!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:



I congratulated you in the RTTC thread -- but will do it again here!




WAY TO GO MATT MAN!!!


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