I love the early 80s

You're wrong there Marty, but then again, whatever you prefer and can stick to is better than some "ideal" theory.

a calorie deficit is the only way you can lose weight. It makes no difference if you eat it in 1 big go or in 10 little goes. What does matteri s what keeps you on track. If lots of small meals help you avoid raiding the cookie jar, then it'll result in less overall calories.

Your body is awesome at digesting food, eat a 12 ounce steak, let me know if any of it makes it all the way through without getting digested on the way :D


here is A scientific look at the research data on this, scroll down to Alan's article.

http://www.leangains.com/2011/04/cri...d-on-meal.html

Not sure how often he eats (lol) but this NFL defensive coordinator turns 75 Sunday:)
 

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Sunday is Dick LeBeau's 75th birthday. After you pick your jaw up off the floor -- the Steelers' Hall of Fame defensive coordinator could pass for 57, easy -- consider the gift the football gods have given him: On the day he turns three-quarters of a century, he gets to playcall Pittsburgh's opener. Against Peyton Manning. "That's not a real appetizing part of this birthday, trying to defend one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time," LeBeau said from his Steelers office Wednesday night. "But honestly, playing the game Sunday soothes the fact that it's my 75th a little bit."

Now for how LeBeau stays young. He runs before practices, on the field. He golfs a lot in the offseason. He does crossword puzzles and mental games. He hangs around the youngest players on his unit, to learn the latest in youth-think."It's a young man's game, but in my heart, I still think I qualify," he said. "I'm surrounded by young people, which helps. I honestly don't think about it much, but I have made a promise to myself: If I ever feel myself slipping, I'll get out. I haven't felt it yet. ''No one's pushing him out the door. At 74, LeBeau orchestrated the league's No. 1 defense, both in yards and points allowed. Keep doing those crosswords, coach.

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And this video:

How's everyone doing.

I've been doing Myfitnesspal for almost 2.5 months. I've lost a bit over 20 lbs and am 1.4 lbs away from my target weight of 195. My body fat % as of tonight is at 15.7% from somewhere in the mid/high 20's.

Tomorrow my wife and I are starting a round of P90X. I will be doing it for increased health and fitness and my wife will be doing it for that and weight loss. If anyone else was thinking about P90X there is no time like the present!

As others have said there is no scientific evidence that 5-6 meals a day impacts your metabolism. However, I just wanted to point out that there is a lot of evidence coming out around fasting that indirectly sheds some light on why lots of small meals my in fact be bad or of no consequence. You point out insulin spikes which can happen from a large "unhealthy" meal, however the best time for body's insulin sensitivity is breakfast. Not because it is in the morning but because it is after a "fast" or period of time in which you haven't been eating. I encourage folks to watch the documentary video by the BBC that I linked a few pages back if you want to learn more about some of the latest thinking on meal timing and frequency.

I am not a morning person and I hate working out but I got up today and finished the Day 1 P90X work outs first thing this morning at 6:00am. Any other P90X takers want to do this thing?

P90X looks like a lot of effort for minimal gain. I think there are easier ways of getting in shape, but it's whatever floats your boat

Martin Berkhan has done a lot of research into intermittant fasting, you can find him at Leangains.com He's a bit of an asshat though :D but definitely in shape.

Intermiittant fasting or "skipping breakfast" is suprisingly easy to stick to and may have some benefits that aren't entirely clear yet. What he does do though that makes the most difference is always cover his protein needs and keep an eye on overall calories.

John Berardi who is possibly the most friendly and innofensive face of the fitness industry tried out all of the variants of fasting and wrote it all up in this free book

http://www.precisionnutrition.com/intermittent-fasting

Day 2 Plyometrics is DONE! Got up early and did it first thing at 6:00 am again. Man that workout is murder for folks not in good shape or with weak cores like myself. Put I pushed through and modified where I had to.

Also, I am following the nutrition plan. Day 1 consisted of:

Breakfast: egg white mushroom scramble, cup of strawberries and 12 oz non fat milk
snack 1: protein bar
Lunch: green apple & chicken salad
snack 2: 30 pistachios
Dinner: 9.5 oz of chicken (lunch was a bit light), 2.5 cups of broccoli, single multi grain English muffin with no topping.

Also supplemented with recovery drink and a protein drink. You sure don't go hungry on P90X.

Having done P90X before I strongly disagree with your first sentence, though I do agree with your second sentence. P90X IS very hard work, especially for folks not used to measuring their food and/or high intensity and frequent workouts! However, you can see huge gains! I personally had significant gains in strength and significant losses in weight, body fat and just pure inches around my waist, stomach and butt. I also reduced my chronic back pain significantly.

If all you want to do is loose weight then P90X is a lot of extra work. If all you are looking to do is get mildly better shape then again it is a lot of extra work. However, if you want huge gains in a short period of time it kicks ass.

EDIT: I wanted to add that the first time I did P90X I was out of shape and overwieght a little bit (lost 20 lbs the first time). This time, I'm starting after 3 months of just trying to be more active in the form of fast paced walking and biking and 2+ months of using myfitnesspal to track what I eat but still eating the things I like that happen to be a bit healthier. That means that this time I'm starting P90X only a few pounds heavier than when I ended P90X last time, I'm also close to the same body fat % as what I ended at last time. However, I don't have near the muscle size or definition and my chronic back pain is bad. I'm looking forward to blowing my previous results out of the water since I'm starting off not having to loose a bunch of weight. I'd love to get down to single digit body fat % or even close to ~10% in my mid 30's.

If I may offer a critique to that diet plan, it is very outdated and misguided!

Eat the whole egg, including the yolk! and drink vitamin D milk.
Include dark meat chicken
Steam the broccoli and include other veggies like carrots and cauliflower and add real butter and real sea salt!
Skip the 'whole grain' anything and eat very minimal amounts of breads.
Skip the 'protein' drink... synthetic protein is rancid and unhealthy.

The myth that saturated fat is bad for us is simply NOT true! It is essential for our bodies to have that.
Sugars, flours, fillers, processed grains, vegetable oils are bad for us.

Google Weston A Price for more info.

Please explain. Specifically, what is rancid and unhealthy about supplementing with whey protein isolates mixed in water?

A few reasons... it's sub par protein, highly processed, denatured and those powders contain other junk like msg, sugar, empty carbs but most importantly they are missing essential fats that are needed with protein to avoid vitamin A and calcium striping. Protein powders are an industrial waste product from cheese production.

If you want protein, drink raw milk. You guys out in CA are lucky, you can buy raw milk! If you can get raw milk, do it.

Otherwise settle for whole milk, eggs, seafood, meat, chicken and nuts as a protein source. Each of these items naturally contain the essentially fats needed with protein intake.

Thanks for the feedback/suggestions Tony. I've been doing all kinds of reading lately on this kind of stuff and have been experimenting with food recently. However, the next 90 days while doing P90X I will stick with their nutrition plan because I've done it before and it works.

I did google Weston A Price and found it ironic that you state my diet plan is very outdated and misguided when Weston Price did his research 70-80+ years ago and there is quite a bit online in the short time I googled evidencing he was way off base on stuff. His observations sound a whole lot like the paleo diet which does clearly work very well for folks and I'm curious about possibly trying it after I complete P90X.

That said I am getting more into natural foods and but I am not gonna eat dark meat cause I hate the taste :)

:lol: I appreciate that humor! lol. It's true, he did his studies then, but they are not based on fads. Personally I find them fascinating.

By 'dated' I meant in terms of the 'low fat, high protein' craze that was popular in the late 80's-90's. I did p90X. I think it's a great workout. Knowing what I know now about that diet, I very much disagree with it.

The paleo diet is flawed itself too, and is very much a similar fad, but it's a step in the right direction, except for the fact that it discounts the use of quality dairy products. So it's really lacking there.

The food processing industry carries a lot of clout and influence.. unfortunately I think this negatively effects the 'health' industry in which many professionals are misguided about what is healthy and what is not.

Quick example, cholesterol, butter and salt are all very good for you. They have essential saturated fats and iodine that are need for nutrient absorption. If you exclude them from your diet you're going to be deficient. You might 'look' like you are in great shape, but your body will not be healthy.

Foods in their whole natural forms are healthiest and natural fats do not make us fat, they are essential.

Perfect example: Reduce salt from a pregnant women and see how fast she goes into labor.

Trust me it's a very effective. We need salt and fat in our diet.

ps I will try to post up in the next couple day's the "Cover the Plate" Diet plan that I follow. I've used it for 20 years and had over 100 people follow it and everyone has decreased there bodyfat and maintained it.

and yes it's a 3 + 1 Meal plan designed for our fast paced society.

I'm with this guy :thumbsup:

although whole grains are not the devil either

Most everything is OK in moderation. Your not going to see me eating butter with dinner everynight or farm raised fish all the time due to it's increased cholesterol and fat.

If the foods you eat lead you to be overweight, it's going to effect your health in a negative way. From diabetes to lower back pain and on down the line. Then the doctors subscribe pills as a bandaid when a lifestyle change is really what's needed.


"What's easy to do, is also easy NOT to do" -Jim Rohn

I've been trucking along still working out 5-6 days a week and sticking to the same types of foods that got me to my ideal weight of 175. (I tipped the scale at 174.8 after vacation) The weather is finally starting to cool off and I enjoyed my first sub 80 degree run in 4 months this morning.

One thing I've been struggling with for a few weeks is regularity. When I changed my diet I had no problem up until a few weeks ago. It hasn't been discussed, what works for you? I know fiber isn't the problem as I get nearly my daily most days at breakfast.

loosen the stick you got up there!:P

Forgot to mention that P90X day 3 is complete :) Got up bright and early and did arms & shoulders & ab ripper

We have been taught from day one that these things are bad... they are not! You can eat foods rich in cholesterol and high in saturated fat and you will be as healthy as a horse. It's lubrication and is essential for vitamin and mineral absorption.

All of that is a result of eating too many highly processed grains, sugars and vegetable oils. They are industry byproducts, highly profitable and toxic. They are what cause all heart disease, diabetes, etc that is rampant in the western world's diet.

You could set your clock to my regularity. :lol: Every monring about 8.30 I'm on the throne. I do not eat ANY fiber at all - from grains. All my fiber comes from fruits, vegetables and some from beans.

My suggestion to help. Stop with the fiber from shredded wheat and other 'whole grains'. Cut those out. Increase your vegetable intake. Double it. Peppers, eggplant, broccoli, spinach, asparagus, carrots, etc. Increase your vitamin C. Drink 36-48oz of (non-fluoridated!) water a day. Keep the sugar drinks down to 12oz or less. And get your saturated fats in you. Eat 2-3 eggs every other morning. And, you're in California, yes? Get 12oz of Raw, unpasteurized milk in you every day. Your whole body and energy level will change. You'll be regular and your entrails will be in good health.

We've talked about fads and gimmick in health and diet... the latest gimmick is "whole grains" in everything. Well, this is the another marketing farce. What they really are, is highly processed, GMO grains devoid of any real nutrition. Don't get me wrong, I still eat some grains, but they do not dominate my diet, they are 10-15% of my diet at the most. Anymore than that and your putting too much industrial byproduct inside yourself.

I set a goal weight for myself on June 24th, the day I started using myfitnesspal, and this morning i hit it for the first time! I'm stoked. I'm sure I'll bounce above it for a bit as my weight tends to bounce around day to day but will be steadily at or under it soon. That is a weight loss of 23.2 lbs from 6/24 until today.

Oh and P90X day 4 Yoga X workout done.

Nicely done Chad.

I've considered starting the P90X thing but my schedule kinda sets me up for failure when the goal is to work out as many days in a row as that program requires.

Keep it up!

Tony, don't take this the wrong way but have you had your blood checked to see how healthy you really are? What is your height and weight? How often do you excercise?

I know this may scare some of you. A very good friend of mine was working for an large Food manufacturer ( can't same the name ) and he had to develope machine for grinding up recycled paper ( the kind you put out in your recycle bin ). The paper of course is ground up very very small and looks like dust.

So what do the do with this. It's th fiber they add into the food we are buying off the grocery store shelf.

and yes I have seen the Machine's in use and let me tell you it's scarry.

I'm not trying to brag about how 'healthy' I am. I really have no clue if I even am! Health to me is a stress free, happy life. It has nothing to do with a scale or 'cholesterol level'. I don't exercise much.. it does not make me happy. :lol: But I am not 'fat' by our cultural visual standard.

I have plenty of physical ability to do most anything I choose, but good health to me is happiness and (trying to) eat clean.

Now, back to changing your diet!

That is disturbing... we aren't eating real food, its industrial waste and chemicals.

No wonder we get all this propaganda about 'whole wheat' and 'fiber'. It's profitable.

really really

Tony, I'm not sure how you give advice when you aren't sure you are healthy? To say that unlimited amounts of cholesterol and saturated fats are good for you is like saying if one beer is good for you, so is a case.

A good buddy of mine is very overweight, eats like crap,(Steak cooked in a skillet full of butter) drinks like a fish, smokes like a freight train and says he feels good all the time. He's a heart attach waiting to happen. His Dad suffered the same fate at only 2 years older than he is today.

Balance and moderation is key. I choose for my diet to be largely made up of fruits, vegetables, raw nuts, cottage cheese, greek yogurt, whole grains, wild ocean fish, and chicken. However, I had steak in my bowl today and eat white rolls, etc.

In life, I like to take advice from people I would trade places with gladly. When it comes to health, I'm not going to listen to my afformentioned buddy.

No I never said to eat unlimited amounts of anything. I do like to give my opinions based on my research and what works for me. It's just my .02, it can be taken for what it's worth. I've found it to be good information even though it directly conflicts with the health 'establishment' talking points.

Saturated fat and cholesterol are in fact healthy. Please look into it. Talking about your diet, I would drop the 'whole grains' as much as possible. Cut back on any cheese if you eat alot of that. Try to get some organic plain white yogurt instead. Greek has too much sugar. And watch out for 'sugar free' or 'aspartame' in those yogurts. Eat that stuff and you'll be craving the grains. Toxins are the most addictive.

Steak is good, but should be eaten raw or at least medium. Farm fish is good, shell fish is great... avoid the tuna nowadays thanks to Fukashima. Add some organic pork too like bacon or pork chops.. always change it up with it comes to meats and fish and always go for true organic if possible. I really think you would benefit from raw milk from grass feed cows too. The enzymes and pro-biotics help regulate digestion too. If you're having problems with that, you stomach could need some extra help. Raw milk is good or fermented apple cider vinegar before a meal. Braggs is the best. You can buy it on Amazon or maybe at your local supermarket. I'm about to start on their amino product since most of us are not getting all the amino acids we need.

Your buddy sounds happy but being overweight is not healthy... it could catch up to him but some people can take are just plain immune. My wife NEVER gets a stinking cold!!! If she does its a runny nose for a whole day!

how do you know it works tony... you just said you don't know if you are healthy.

im not disagreeing with your research or science, but i see it as something you just use as justification for the fact that your uncomfortable with the physical shape your in. some of us want to be physically fit so we take advise off of real world results to attain the look and feel we desire.

so for me since my goal is vain, your 2 cent aint worth a penny:P

Where did you get this "fact"? I'm very content with my "appearance". I just don't base my life around how I look or what I weight. I base it on how I feel. That is not a knock on anyone either.

My point is that you can look "fit" and still be internally unhealthy, deficient or unbalanced. You can look like P90X Tony Horton or Tony Little (Remember him? :lol: ) but can still have toxic 'fiber' constipating you or be poisoned with formaldehyde from diet coke and still 'look good'.

But the good news is you can still eat bacon, butter and eggs and pass for an underwear model if that's what you desire. :lol:

from post #383...
i understand that and didnt see it as a knock.:thumbsup:

Maybe you misread.. I never said I was unhappy with how I look.

no just married so sometimes i see between the lines...

if you post was cut n dry then sorry for the assumption.

Just wanted to say that my wife and I finished week 1 of P90X strong. Did all workouts plus the stretch X on Sunday and stuck the nutrition plan.

1 down, 11 to go.

I hit my goal weight of 175 a few weeks ago. Since then I've been adding daily calorie intake. I'm eating very well and satisfied all day. I'm still losing weight! I jumped on the scale this morning at 172.6. I need to get back to tracking my diet and force myself to eat more than I need to be full. It's amazing what a consistent healthy diet and excercise will do over time. :thumbsup:

Speaking of excercise. I ran 3 miles in 25:47 this morning which gets me solidly into the high 8 minute mile range. Not great by runner standards but I've kept most of my mass. I've been running for 9 months now. Clearly the weight loss and nutrition change has helped but it's been a slow process. Two weeks ago I was really struggling.

My high intensity weight training has also taken off. While I'm not lifting the sheer weight I did back in my gym rat days, lately I've been able to lift some fairly heavy weight with only 15-30 seconds max between sets. I've now got great endurance lifting fairly heavy weights. I do everything from a farmers walk, jumps onto a podium, and up and down a flight of steps using every 3rd step between weight sets.

The payoff is being in the best shape of my life and my body is looking great! I've been getting so many remarks lately. I was at the parts store last weekend and the parts guy said, " You look like you could lift this battery with one arm to shoulder level". I did too. :lol:

"Everything you have today you've attracted by the person you've become" -Jim Rohn

"Success is not something you find or chase, success is attracted to you by the person you become."-Jim Rohn

"Learn to work harder on yourself than you do on your job."-Jim Rohn

How do you do that? Some examples:

Read books that inspire you and educate you on the area of your life you would like to improve.

Listen to educational cd's in your car instead of the radio.

Book end you day. I like to start mine outside on the patio with Kelli or doing something around the house.
At the end of the day I read a book before bed most days.

Excercise

Improve your nutrition

Volunteer for charity work

Share your knowledge with those that will benefit

Work on your relationships

There are countless more ways to improve yourself. The real key to the equation here is these are all positive influences in your life. The more positive influences you have daily, the less the negative things are going to affect you attitude and philosophy on life.

How NOT to succeed: "A few errors in judgement repeated EVERYDAY"-Jim Rohn

How to succeed: "A few good disciplines repeated EVERYDAY"-Jim Rohn

They don't need to be momumental to start. It can be an apple everyday, a walk around the block, telling your wife you love her.

That pretty much mirrors where I am at this point - less the P90X. I'm down 24 pounds since July 1 and am fighting through another frustrating plateau. I'm an old fart so I'm just doing the old Power90 before trying X. I have another 15 pounds to my goal - I know I'll make it... it's just a matter of when...

Stop back by my house --- I'll fatten you up a bit more! :unibrow: :cheers:

So Good..... :drool:

nice! but why do you need to go to the parts store for some AAA batteries ?
you can get them from the corner store you know.:P

july 20th (209lb)was when i truely decided to get on a new path for my nutrition and exercise, i last weighed myself on saturday and was 190lb:) my waist is down 4 inchs but my upper body and arm are actually larger/wider than before because my weight training has been focused on mass gaining exercise routines . when i look in the mirror ive still got alot more work to do to get to where i want (im thinking to look the way i want ill need to get down near todds weight) but im excited to do so!

BUT i still suck big time at running...i cant run a full mile steady,i need to take like 30sec walking breaks. i have gotten to where i can make it a 1/2 mile then i need to walk for like 1min, then i can finish it out... its still alot better that when i started and was dying after running 100 feet though lol.
the problem isnt physical pain though its that im out of breath, any advice or tips for that?

my wife has also been doing very well (had a baby in march) shes been eating super clean like me and goes to the gym 4-5 time a week about 45 min with weights and 30 min cardio, and on one of those days works with a personal trainer.
how kelli doing todd?

Great job on the running. You have good speed now you just need to extend a little and get to over 40 minutes of running at that pace. You can do it. My wife runs with me some but wont go past 3 miles because she is hardheaded and don't want to admit that running has done more for her than curves or any other thing she has tried. anyway she ended up running 6 miles with me and didn't struggle at all. You can do it easy. I am missing lifting, with marathon training i am lucky to get 1-2 days a week. but i am ready to get back to it after nov. 4.

I’m 31 and had my first baby 6-1/2 months ago. When I was 27 weeks along, I had the mandatory test for gestational diabetes. My OBGYN was shocked when my blood sugars were off the charts. I was not the typical pregnant lady who would be diagnosed with it (overweight before the pregnancy, diabetes in the family, etc.). I’m about 5’ 4-1/2” and weighed about 125 before I was pregnant. I was already a fairly healthy eater before the pregnancy, but when I found out I was pregnant, I started eating even healthier. Then when I found out I had gestational diabetes, I was almost depressed because I had already been eating really healthy and now I had to be on a special super low carb/no yummy stuff at all kinda diet. It sucked. I had to check my blood sugar 4 times a day and call in my blood sugar numbers twice a week along with everything I had been eating. The doctors/nurses/dieticians were pretty strict. The first 5-6 weeks I was on this diabetic diet, I didn’t gain a single pound. I only gained 18 pounds total for the whole pregnancy (baby boy also decided to show up almost 6 weeks early). So after delivery I went back to eating like I used to and the last 5 pounds of baby weight just would not leave. So I incorporated the diabetic diet, lower calories & portions and a little bit of an Atkins-type diet and I use myfitnesspal.com. The only difference is that if I’m really craving something, I’ll eat it, but in a much smaller portion and then go right back to eating healthy. For me, if I crave something, that craving does not go away until I eat it. Talk about torture for a pregnant lady with diabetes! That was about 10 weeks ago I started that lifestyle change and I have lost 12 pounds. I now weigh 118 which is 7 pounds less now than I did when I got pregnant! And that’s next to no exercise! (hard to find time for that when you have a 6 month old!). 118 is what I weighed back when I was 23 when we got married (almost 8 years ago). So I’m good with this weight. Now it’s just maintaining it and incorporating exercise to tone up when I can find the time.

And the hubby is doing awesome too! Ed (pokey64) is down 30 pounds in the past 10 weeks and down a total of 64 pounds from his heaviest!

Good job everyone on the progress so far! :thumbsup: Keep up the good work!

You may want to get a physical to rule out a medical condition just to be sure.:thumbsup: