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mitch_04 03-21-2016 12:33 AM

Just wanted to say I love watching your builds and I'm glad you kept this one going. They are all inspiring!

grendel 03-23-2016 05:56 PM

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Thanks.

We got the half shafts into the cradle. Another nice mile stone.

waynieZ 03-23-2016 08:39 PM

:thumbsup:

grendel 03-26-2016 04:01 PM

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So, this is the fight... all this stuff, trying to live in the same place, without damage. I think we nailed it. The IRS went in for it's final fitting.

So, this happened today:

As they were installed, the rims hit the coil overs. No rim I had or bought at specification would fit. So, in the hot rodding fashion, we broke out the plasma cutter and welder and made them fit.

Cut off the mounts for the upper rear coil overs and cut part of the "frame rail". Mounted the coil over under the frame rail, but with the mount cut into it. Flipped the shocks 180 degrees so the hardware's inside and easier to route into the trunk.

That all allowed this the "steam roller" affect. I mean, if I have to re-engineer, might as well go big as we rebuild. :)

I am also pleased as punch with the Bear calipers on Kore3 abutments over Camaro 14.4" rotors, Camaro hubs with parking brake... seems we need to shim just a little bit, but the front calipers match the back now.

Yes, the remote resevoirs will go into the trunk.

syborg tt 03-26-2016 05:34 PM

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More work on the body ( I have black boogers from grinding) and Giff is working away on the sub frames. Giff is my pit boss who's been hustling to work out bugs in the IRS and front sub-frame. Patience of a Saint, as I'd be throwing stuff through the window. We're good at bouncing ideas off each other.

I really want to run C6/C7 arms, since they're much lighter than the ones I built. They're also available off the shelf and pretty cheap. They'd be shared architecture with my 2015 Z06/7.

To keep the shock out of the control arm, we came up with this - we offset the shock from the upright. We feel the uprights will help it handle a bit more stress and FEA testing shows that it will.

Talking with Darren at Ride Tech about a set set of spacers for the offset side in front, although I could make a spacer, it wouldn't be as elegant. Also ordered the stuff to put his rear shocks into the DSE lowers and new upper shock mounts that will keep the coil overs out of the 5th Gen Camaro DSE sway bar that fits wonderfully in the back. May have to swap my rear shocks for something that can handle more angle, as these were not ordered correctly. They float in the lower control arms (SAE bolts were installed in metric holes), hit the previously installed sway bar and float in the top bracket. They may also hit/rub on the chassis when we move the mount from the outside to the inside of the rear frame rail to clear tires. The DSE rear sway bar looks like it will clear. It installed easily, like it was originally supposed to. Funny, someone told me it wouldn't fit.

Getting the new springs ordered too. I can't run ones that were beat to crap due to poor installation/configuration.

Tempted to go with the Ride Tech 5th gen components in the back. They really rock.



Wish I would have known you were making offset shock mounts. I would have had you make me a set.

Need to get you shock specs also when you have time if you don't mind.

grendel 03-26-2016 05:47 PM

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Wish I would have known you were making offset shock mounts. I would have had you make me a set.

Need to get you shock specs also when you have time if you don't mind.

Easy to do, when are you putting yours in? I've learned a lot about this one...

The rear rails will be totally clean before paint, BTW... this is final rough in.

That's a 375 tire tucked under there.

Also, someone posted a link about getting more room in the outer wheel tub of a 2nd gen... I can't find it.

GregWeld 03-26-2016 06:47 PM

First rule of hot rodding --- ya gotta cut, to cure.... LOL


Nicely done! And wow! Those are so big ass tires.

Che70velle 03-26-2016 06:56 PM

I just hit my LIKE button so hard, I broke it!
#winning

grendel 03-26-2016 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 633519)
First rule of hot rodding --- ya gotta cut, to cure.... LOL


Nicely done! And wow! Those are so big ass tires.

Yep. Been there, done that, have the plasma burn scars and grinder knuckles. Didn't want to do it on this build, but I am in there, so it's happening.

Thanks man.

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I just hit my LIKE button so hard, I broke it!
#winning

Thanks man.

XLexusTech 03-26-2016 08:58 PM

Looking awesome JJ !

waynieZ 03-26-2016 10:05 PM

Sweet! nice looking meats on there..

grendel 03-26-2016 10:12 PM

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Looking awesome JJ !

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Sweet! nice looking meats on there..

Thanks gents.

I think they may look too big... won't know until I can sit it all the way down.

These may end up on my Z06, with the Z06/7 rims and tires going on this.

gofastwclass 03-27-2016 03:44 AM

Looking good, JJ. I love the 5th Gen Camaro IRS in this car and the wide body in the rear. This is a cool car that is finally turning out well now that it has the proper supervision. :)

I'm excited to see what is next.

grendel 03-27-2016 07:30 AM

I am pretty sure a 47 Willy's wagon, on C7 suspension's next...

Or maybe a 72 Corvette "Z06"????

syborg tt 03-27-2016 08:08 AM

Planning to bring the frame home in a couple weeks. Needed to redo my garage so I could have a place to put it and still park both Camaro's in the garage.

As for the 375 that's a big SOB


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Originally Posted by grendel (Post 633516)
Easy to do, when are you putting yours in? I've learned a lot about this one...

The rear rails will be totally clean before paint, BTW... this is final rough in.

That's a 375 tire tucked under there.

Also, someone posted a link about getting more room in the outer wheel tub of a 2nd gen... I can't find it.





Marty-mj
www.garagescene.net www.syborgtwinturbo.com www.2ndcamaro.com

sokoloka 03-27-2016 08:26 PM

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Or maybe a 72 Corvette "Z06"????

I'm a little biased but I'd say this is the one!

grendel 03-27-2016 08:28 PM

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I'm a little biased but I'd say this is the one!

That will happen regardless...:ohsnap:

waynieZ 03-27-2016 11:03 PM

47 Willy's is a sweet little wagon.

grendel 04-04-2016 08:19 AM

So I am still noodling on this, which means no forward progress.

As you can see, the 21" rims and 375 series tires fit. Thing is, I have 1.5" of up travel the way they fit now. I'd really like a lower ride height with them, even with the 1.5" of travel.

Perhaps I should ask, what is a reasonable up travel amount for racing/street riding for ice cream with the kids? Most cars I've built, I shoot for 2.5". I think I can squeak out 2" with this.

I read somewhere (but can't find it) about how to mod the stock outer wheel tubs for more up travel.

Or I can I go with an 18" rim and run BFG's.

I'd have to buy 4 rims and tires. That gives me 2.5" up.

Or I could go with Z06 rear rims all around...

I have two 20x12's and two tires... I also have the front 19x11" and tires.

Again, 2.5" up.

Or I could do 19x12" rims from the rear of a 2012 C6 Grand Concourse.

I have 4 of those, just need tires.

again, 2.5" up.

Gives me a 26.5" diameter tire on a 12" wide rim

In which case, I am being lazy... but they're probably a better tire than the Pirelli Nero's I own on the 21 and 20" Forgelines that coould go on my Z06 or other projects.

I haven't even started to really think about the front, most say an 11" wide rim, which matches the front 2015 Z06 rims I own.

Thoughts?

grendel 04-04-2016 09:24 PM

So, in other news, Ron Sutton will be helping with this build via specifications.

I think that answers some of the questions above.

Ben@SpeedTech 04-05-2016 09:33 AM

With Ron on board you'll get everything worked out and this thing running like a serious beastie. Good luck!

Vince@Meanstreets 04-05-2016 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by grendel (Post 634345)
So, in other news, Ron Sutton will be helping with this build via specifications.

I think that answers some of the questions above.

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Originally Posted by Ben@SpeedTech (Post 634394)
With Ron on board you'll get everything worked out and this thing running like a serious beastie. Good luck!

That being said, keep the saw-z-all and the hot wrench warmed up and close by. :action-smiley-027: :secret: :innocent:

Stage7 04-15-2016 11:06 PM

Looking really good Grendel. it's progressed a lot since I saw it. I'm glad you're finishing it. It's going to be sick just like your other builds. I hope to see it before the cold weather comes back.

Swain 05-04-2016 12:32 PM

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Some Wheel designs I think that would look killer. :hello:

grendel 05-04-2016 12:42 PM

So, yeah... the 21" and 20" rim combo is gone.

Order BFG Rival S's today. Trying to go square on 335's but we'll see. I know a 315 will fit the front.

Swain 05-04-2016 02:47 PM

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How about this?

spatel2589 05-04-2016 03:17 PM

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How about this?

I think these would look real nice! The colorway gives a more sophisticated look compared to the common grey centers.

grendel 05-04-2016 04:05 PM

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How about this?

I like that one a lot.

18x12

18x11

grendel 05-05-2016 03:30 PM

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Got a little time to dink around with this.

One of the things that really bugged me: The rear shelf was cut excessively large for the DSE mini tubs, and never patched. Generally, it's not an issue for most cars, but in mine, that's where the Tiger Cage bolts through... which would be a major issue. In the cut pics, the large square shape is the stainless Ride Tech backing plate to the rear cage section. I imagine it's designed to be covered.:y0!: This is how I got it last year. Finally got some time this week to play with it for an hour.

So cut it out more and added material that is welded to the wheel tub, the rear deck and the "frame". I feel that tying this into the cage system by Ride Tech will add a bunch of rigidity.

I'll spend some time with the grinder and clean the welded up, then drill for the cage bolts... I can't imagine it's going anywhere now. I also took the vent system out, it will get a charcoal canister on the gas tank vent.

Some pics for you.

grendel 05-05-2016 03:38 PM

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One of the other things that bugged me was how the gas tank was mounted with two 3/16" thick bolts in the front of the gas tank straps through some pretty thin material. That 16.5 gallons at 6.3 lb per gallon hanging off what looks like 20 or 22 gauge sheet metal.

So I welded in some 14g that will get braced to each other. Now the sloshing can do whatever it wants. They will also take 3/8" bolts like the adjuster is on the other side.

Also, since we're changing up a the car, I am thinking about dropping the stripes... I've seen a couple of cars with carbon fiber stripes and I am not a fan.

I also asked Ben to add the 18" Budniks Jay last posted to see what they look like on the car. The 20/21" Forgelines are not a part of this and will be sold off.

Thoughts?

grendel 05-10-2016 04:59 PM

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After the last couple of day's work, I think I should call this project "Tacky".

Got the inner fenders fitted, just a bit more welding and grinding to go... lots of black booger picking too! Getting ready to paint and line the underside so we can start making this into a final roller. Gained .75" of up travel over the way it was done before. Also has the outer lip for the 1/4 to attach to.

Also trimmed the wheel tubs themselves, so they don't trap crap and cause rot.

Oh and we have new tires, will get those measured for rims once it's a roller.

Rims are ordered, too.

This thing may actually race this season!

fleetus macmullitz 05-11-2016 08:30 AM

Nice rendering and some serious meats your gonna run. :thumbsup:

Beach Cruiser 05-12-2016 07:47 AM

You're getting there! Maybe we can race together in the future!

grendel 05-25-2016 03:52 PM

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I would like that... should be a fun race :)

I am slowly chipping away at this. I know people won't see it, but I will know they're there... so I finished the rear inner fender wells. Yes, I even put down some plastic.

It's tough splitting time between this and the Diamond <T>.

grendel 06-02-2016 10:29 AM

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Is this thing on?

After a lot of grinding and black booger picking, I got the body lines where I want them. Although I really didn't want to use any filler, we had to. Granted, it's less than 1/16" thick. I have the passenger side in a guide coat and started working on the driver's side mud work.

Looks like I may make it to a race or two this year with this car.

Oh, also getting perfect gaps means modifying carbon fiber.

glassman 06-02-2016 08:16 PM

Would love to see this thing done this year!! :thumbsup: :superhack:

grendel 06-02-2016 08:31 PM

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Would love to see this thing done this year!! :thumbsup: :superhack:

You and me both. :flag2:

No hacks though, unless Ron orders it :whenitsdone:

grendel 06-03-2016 07:10 PM

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More priming, more sanding... glad we're working in the dirty section of the building. I got the trunk lid gapped right. Start working on the doors sometime next week.

It's getting the underside pol lined tonight and tomorrow we're making it a roller and measuring for wheels.

Today was a good day.

waynieZ 06-03-2016 07:13 PM

Sweet!

grendel 06-04-2016 04:30 PM

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Sub frames went in for the final time.

Also getting my second race boat ready... some times it's nice to live near the ocean.


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