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Goosesdad 01-08-2020 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AMPZberlinetta (Post 699664)
Thanks for the input on the different tools you are using! I just ordered a couple a those things to try them out. On the metal it almost looks like you have a sanded finish/ has some tooth to it. Is that from the grinding discs or to you go back and sand the metal smooth an orbital or something? Also while making all the panels, are you using a bead roller to stamp in all those strengthening creases? And i promise ill stop asking questions

No worries, ask away.....
Yep, take the metal to at least 150grit before priming as a minimum, in my opinion. I actually go to 220. Crazy paint guys will say 400....
Yep, beadroller. The Trick Tools ones are amazing.

waynieZ 01-08-2020 07:26 PM

All that work really shows.

CamaroAJ 01-09-2020 06:09 AM

Looking good, John. I'm pretty sure your car is what gave me the idea to extend my rockers which will help me be able to mount my front fenders easier.

Goosesdad 01-09-2020 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroAJ (Post 699674)
Looking good, John. I'm pretty sure your car is what gave me the idea to extend my rockers which will help me be able to mount my front fenders easier.

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Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 699670)
All that work really shows.

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Originally Posted by WSSix (Post 699611)
It's almost going to be too pretty to flip the car back over.

Thanks guys!!!

Goosesdad 01-09-2020 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by alex n (Post 699657)
I think that might have been me, those grinding wheels are awesome

Yep...thanks Alex!!!

Gmachine1911 01-12-2020 11:01 AM

”Thanks! No real voodoo on my end....and to be clear, those latest pics of the bottom of the car have had a bit of body filler to the welds. Did that as much to seal up any small pinholes but it definitely smoothed out some of those areas for looks also. I used Evercoat Everglass, as it's waterproof so it's a good compliment to the epoxy primer for sealing up the under carriage. Raptor coming in the next month or so.”


So do you use a seam sealer before the Everglass or does the Everglass work to seal the seam and smooth it out? Thanks!

Goosesdad 01-12-2020 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Gmachine1911 (Post 699760)
”Thanks! No real voodoo on my end....and to be clear, those latest pics of the bottom of the car have had a bit of body filler to the welds. Did that as much to seal up any small pinholes but it definitely smoothed out some of those areas for looks also. I used Evercoat Everglass, as it's waterproof so it's a good compliment to the epoxy primer for sealing up the under carriage. Raptor coming in the next month or so.”


So do you use a seam sealer before the Everglass or does the Everglass work to seal the seam and smooth it out? Thanks!

For these particular areas, the 'glass seals just fine....just mostly little pinholes. Adding a touch up epoxy coat on top of that, especially where sanding/scuffing through to bare metal.

For areas that are a true seam (like, trunk floor to the rear tail pain), I'll use seal sealer then a shot of epoxy on top of that and then the Raptor. Good tip is to run masking tape on both sides of the seam, then spread the sealer, then peel up the tape in the middle of the cure cycle....makes for a clean line.

Probably a bit excessive here, but I'm fortunate to have a good friend that is a high-end paint dude and he's been kind enough to guide me through the little but important details, thus I'm taking his advice 100%. Wish I had the $$ to have him do it!!!

streetbird 01-13-2020 07:38 AM

bottom of this car is amazing. nice work

Goosesdad 01-19-2020 09:28 PM

Thank you!

Goosesdad 01-19-2020 09:34 PM

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Hood vent - for another day!
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A little bodywork on the firewall
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Touched up the epoxy
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Filler primer....now the block sanding begins.

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CamaroAJ 01-20-2020 12:30 PM

Whats the hood vent from? measurements? I'm looking for one for my car to match the Anvil ones and make fit the cowl hood.

Goosesdad 01-20-2020 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroAJ (Post 699978)
Whats the hood vent from? measurements? I'm looking for one for my car to match the Anvil ones and make fit the cowl hood.

APR Performance - C7 Z06.

Goosesdad 01-20-2020 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Goosesdad (Post 699982)
APR Performance - C7 Z06.

I have some pics with a tape measure next to it from the factory. I'll send you asap.

Goosesdad 01-28-2020 08:28 AM

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Block sanding firewalls is truckloads of fun.

waynieZ 01-28-2020 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Goosesdad (Post 700200)
Block sanding firewalls is truckloads of fun.

But it sure is paying off! it looks amazing.

jarhead 01-29-2020 12:49 PM

nice job on the firewall, it looks like allot of work!

Goosesdad 02-04-2020 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jarhead (Post 700232)
nice job on the firewall, it looks like allot of work!

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Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 700207)
But it sure is paying off! it looks amazing.

Thank you!

Goosesdad 02-04-2020 02:26 PM

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I've been struggling with those 2 stupid chimneys that I built on the firewall for the 2 fire suppression heads....the automatic head (in a previous post) is pressurized from the factory so you can't do anything to the line in order for it to penitrate the firewall perpendicular, and the hose (braided) limits the options so sort'a stuck with something sticking out from the firewall. Anyway, didn't like what I did so changed it... I think this gets closer to a clean solution.
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Finished the first round of block sanding, went through to metal in a few spots so touched them up with epoxy along with the fire suppression fix.

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Sonar Chief 02-05-2020 09:30 AM

Great job! Wow, that did clean up the visual element big time :thumbsup: Who's fire suppression system are you using?

Decisions, decisions .... :poke:

Goosesdad 02-06-2020 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonar Chief (Post 700380)
Great job! Wow, that did clean up the visual element big time :thumbsup: Who's fire suppression system are you using?

Decisions, decisions .... :poke:

Thanks! - Don't know what I was thinking with my first approach, brain was off for at least the better part of a whole afternoon while I was building those chimney stacks!! :confused59:

I choose Safecraft for a few reasons; I like the 3M Novec agent, I liked the idea of the automatic heads in parallel with the manual....maybe overkill for us but I watched a guy, knocked out, in a sprint car fire, left an impression. And they were having a smoking deal at PRI. Customer service has been great. If I was going to do the automatic head again, I would have exactly mapped out the head location and line path before ordering, as the automatic line is pressurized from the factory. I sort of did that, but could have eliminated this mounting bracket if I just had the head mounted to the line with a 90 degree fitting from the factory.

I'm also going to do a 5lb, separate system for the interior.

I looked at SPA and FireBottle and Lifeline...all were solid solutions as well. Don't think there is a LatG sponsor for this one but hopefully someone will jump in here if they have another idea, probably should be a whole lot more conversation on this topic.

Goosesdad 03-01-2020 08:31 PM

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Built a temp booth so I could contain sanding dust, as much as possible, and so I could spray primer. Just trying to manage the mess a bit.
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Sprayed a final coat of polyester on the firewall. I will block it and paint next.
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slimjim 03-02-2020 04:53 AM

Great work on the booth, my garage will need a full overhaul once the car heads out to paint as the poly dust ruins everything!

Goosesdad 03-02-2020 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by slimjim (Post 701165)
Great work on the booth, my garage will need a full overhaul once the car heads out to paint as the poly dust ruins everything!

Thanks! So true. I tried to convince myself that just doing the firewall wouldn't put dust in every possible nook and cranny within a 100' radius. Lying to myself when I know better seems to be common for me.

Bet it feels good to be so close to paint. Nice!

TAC 03-02-2020 09:11 PM

Just scanned through your build thread... looks awesome.
Nice work on the fiberglass parts. I cheat the mold process like you do, sometimes using the thin aluminum house flashing material or tin foil to do lay ups on.
On your inner front fiberglass liners there is a thin liner material similar to the foam board that will prevent the rocks coming off the tires from star cracking your gelcoat on the good side. It gets put under the last layer of glass.

Goosesdad 03-03-2020 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TAC (Post 701188)
Just scanned through your build thread... looks awesome.
Nice work on the fiberglass parts. I cheat the mold process like you do, sometimes using the thin aluminum house flashing material or tin foil to do lay ups on.
On your inner front fiberglass liners there is a thin liner material similar to the foam board that will prevent the rocks coming off the tires from star cracking your gelcoat on the good side. It gets put under the last layer of glass.

Thank Gary. Agreed...was a cheater mold for sure. I would have built a proper mold if I thought someone here could benefit from it but I think my fenders are such a one-off that the gains for others would be small.

I think you are asking what the material is? It's a single layer of Kevlar but it's just in the area in front of the dry sump tank and really just to help with any larger object going through to the tank/lines/fittings. I would do 2 layers if I had to do it over, one is good...two solves it 100%. Just capitalizing on the better ballistic properties of the Kevlar in this area, I'm not really doing it to help with any spider cracks, though it would probably help there too. I'm going to gamble a bit with protecting the inners by doing a semi heavy coat of Raptor, maybe 4 layers on the part of the inners that can be seen from the engine bay. I built the inners so they could be removed without removing the fenders, sort of expect some repairs at some point. Hope that helps?

glassman 03-09-2020 09:28 PM

Love following this.
That garage though, killing it.
Reading nothing but nice things about Fesler...:D

TAC 03-09-2020 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Goosesdad (Post 701197)
Thank Gary. Agreed...was a cheater mold for sure. I would have built a proper mold if I thought someone here could benefit from it but I think my fenders are such a one-off that the gains for others would be small.

I think you are asking what the material is? It's a single layer of Kevlar but it's just in the area in front of the dry sump tank and really just to help with any larger object going through to the tank/lines/fittings. I would do 2 layers if I had to do it over, one is good...two solves it 100%. Just capitalizing on the better ballistic properties of the Kevlar in this area, I'm not really doing it to help with any spider cracks, though it would probably help there too. I'm going to gamble a bit with protecting the inners by doing a semi heavy coat of Raptor, maybe 4 layers on the part of the inners that can be seen from the engine bay. I built the inners so they could be removed without removing the fenders, sort of expect some repairs at some point. Hope that helps?

I was just wondering if you had done anything for the spider crack issue and I was saying that there is products for lamination for that issue. You have addressed it with the Kevlar so you should be covered to some degree.

Goosesdad 03-10-2020 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by glassman (Post 701398)
Love following this.
That garage though, killing it.
Reading nothing but nice things about Fesler...:D

Thanks Mike!

Goosesdad 03-10-2020 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TAC (Post 701399)
I was just wondering if you had done anything for the spider crack issue and I was saying that there is products for lamination for that issue. You have addressed it with the Kevlar so you should be covered to some degree.

Ahhh. Got it. Would love to know about the product, appreciate any info you have.. Thanks.

CamaroAJ 03-10-2020 08:13 PM

Aw come on guys, I keep seeing the thread bumped up, but no pictures. Killin me over here.

Goosesdad 03-20-2020 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroAJ (Post 701432)
Aw come on guys, I keep seeing the thread bumped up, but no pictures. Killin me over here.

Ha! Well played AJ.

Goosesdad 03-20-2020 07:21 PM

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Shot a few coats of OMNI 243 primer. Won't block sand for now. Paint and Raptor for another day. Hadn't planned on smoothing the inside but did a light sweep of filler just because I could/should.

waynieZ 03-20-2020 07:51 PM

They look good!

Goosesdad 03-23-2020 10:59 AM

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Poking yourself in the eye with an ice pick or block sanding a firewall?

150 and 220 done, 400 next. Paint this weekend.

Hope everyone is safe and doing as well as can be expected.

Musclerodz 03-23-2020 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Goosesdad (Post 701751)
Poking yourself in the eye with an ice pick or block sanding a firewall?

150 and 220 done, 400 next. Paint this weekend.

Hope everyone is safe and doing as well as can be expected.

what color did we decide on?

waynieZ 03-23-2020 07:16 PM

This is looking sweet!

Goosesdad 03-24-2020 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Musclerodz (Post 701761)
what color did we decide on?

Hey Mike! Still thinking red or orange. Want some level of flake, but one way or another, will stick with 2 stage so that limits me a bit.

Goosesdad 03-30-2020 08:33 AM

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Firewall painted/cleared this weekend.
First pic is sealer...DP-90 2:1:1/2(885 reducer)
The following pics are after paint and clear.
Deltron 9700 black. 1:1
PPG D8115 Matte Clear: 3:1:1 1/4

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Musclerodz 03-30-2020 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Goosesdad (Post 701971)
Firewall painted/cleared this weekend.
First pic is sealer...DP-90 2:1:1/2(885 reducer)
The following pics are after paint and clear.
Deltron 9700 black. 1:1
PPG D8115 Matte Clear: 3:1:1 1/4

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looks awesome. one the 8115 I use 2 full parts of reducer instead of the recommended 1.5. It helps it flow out nicer so it doesn't have that texture to it.

DWC 03-30-2020 10:28 AM

So smooth, very impressive.

Daniel


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