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tmadden 01-02-2010 08:48 PM
Steve
 
Penny is on steroids!!!!! It does just keep getting better and stronger.:hail:

Steve1968LS2 01-02-2010 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Paladin (Post 258166)
Steve,

I had been running the old bfg g-force kd 275/40/18's in the rear. They were not great, even for the street, and gave you zero warning at the limit.
I have heard good things about the dunlop direzza star spec so I am going to get those in a 265/35/18. The right side rubs a bit with a 275, and I want to take out some negative camber (necessary for clearance). tire wear was brutal, and lousy for drag strip launches. My car is mainly for street, otherwise I would look at teh Toyo r888. I have 480 rwhp and 441 ft lbs. to harness.
check out these H2H links:

why do the cars with better power to weight and better tires keep posting slower times???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DK-z...eature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ngPG...eature=related
Because there's more to it than just power and weight.. where the weight is and how the car grips makes more difference than just the power to weight ratio.

I really like the R888 tire.. if you drive in the rain then also look at the Toyo RA1 since it has more grooves. Neither are good for snow or sub freezing temps.

If you're having push you could try stiffening up the rear to induce more oversteer.

nvr2fst 01-02-2010 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 (Post 257953)
BTW.. the DTC-30 pads rocked at the event.. We had the second best 0-60-0 ... Considering we did better than Jackass we're pretty happy.

In fact we tied the GTR even though it had AWD and ABS.. of course we had stickier tires.

Anyways, pads seem like a good balance between track and street and especially good for short durration events.
Steve, thanks for the feedback. I seen your results posted when the event was done. Good to know. I know Mark has been down this road but did you ever consider ABS or would that hinder you in the short autoX events like Goodguys.
Inner fender mods? Going Anvil CF?

Steve1968LS2 01-02-2010 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 258274)
That is a killer looking set up. I may have to give autorad a call since I'm swapping radiators currently as well.
It's a nice set-up.. getting the DSE closeout to fit will be a major chore and we have one fitment issue to run by them.

I like how large the surface area of the radiator is, and the fact that it's centered unlike the factory core support.

Kendall Burleson 01-02-2010 09:35 PM
How much weight did that setup lose on the nose? Will you have revalve the front shocks and change out the sway Bar?:wow: :wow:

Vegas69 01-02-2010 09:43 PM
It's got to be like 10lbs max. No way anything needs changed suspension wise. I don't want to speak for Steve but having the extra space allows him to run a air cooled oil cooler without taking such a toll on the overall cooling of the car. That's exactly why I plan to run a heat exchanger just due to a packaging problem. I really like that radiator, it looks nice.

Steve1968LS2 01-02-2010 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Kendall Burleson (Post 258300)
How much weight did that setup lose on the nose? Will you have revalve the front shocks and change out the sway Bar?:wow: :wow:
My guess is it's a wash.. when I take it back apart I will weigh the core supports.

Any weight saved will be taken up by the extra weight of the larger radiator and the extra fluid.

And I know you're just poking fun on the shock and sway bar deal ;)

Steve1968LS2 01-02-2010 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 258301)
It's got to be like 10lbs max. No way anything needs changed suspension wise. I don't want to speak for Steve but having the extra space allows him to run a air cooled oil cooler without taking such a toll on the overall cooling of the car. That's exactly why I plan to run a heat exchanger just due to a packaging problem. I really like that radiator, it looks nice.
I found what DSE found.. that the water based oil cooler is good, but not as good as an air based cooler (unless you're NASCAR and running a HUGE cooler and radiator). Nevertheless, it will be fine for Track Rat. This way I will be able to run a larger cooler on the passenger's side to try and move some weight around a bit. We will pass through the new firewall using bulkhead fittings and hardline to and from the cooler.

Looking at this:
http://www.frsport.com/Setrab-Oil-Co...s_p_15182.html

Vegas69 01-02-2010 10:00 PM
I've spent a bunch of time thinking about radiators and oil coolers and understand completely. You add a AC condensor and it get's more complex. Ron Davis has a big daddy heat exchanger that can be made part of the tank. I've yet to get them to commit to making it work in my car. I like the idea of no t stat and having room for my AC with a stock support. I've got to get it done since my new motor will be done soon and it's time to go racin.

Steve1968LS2 01-02-2010 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 258305)
I've spent a bunch of time thinking about radiators and oil coolers and understand completely. You add a AC condensor and it get's more complex. Ron Davis has a big daddy heat exchanger that can be made part of the tank. I've yet to get them to commit to making it work in my car. I like the idea of no t stat and having room for my AC with a stock support. I've got to get it done since my new motor will be done soon and it's time to go racin.
DSE doesn't run a t-stat.. which makes me wonder how necessary it is. My cooling fans are manual so I guess I could flip them off if the oil is running cool. I guess I should talk with Kyle. The no t-stat thing was one of the main reasons for going with the water based cooler.

If I did run a t-stat I'm looking at this one...

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CT...0/?image=large


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