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fleet 09-23-2012 11:06 AM

Looking good Marr-Tay. :D

295's were good enough for Rad Rides Notorious, right? :unibrow:

cencalc6 09-23-2012 11:35 AM

Nice Job!

65 347 09-23-2012 02:31 PM

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Marty
Car is coming along nicely, looking good!
With those wheels it looks like your new mountain bike.:thumbsup:
Mike

syborg tt 09-23-2012 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WSSix (Post 437531)
Looking good Marty! I do have to laugh though. I didn't realize 12" rear tires are now considered nothing too wide. I love BFG KDW tires. So aggressive looking and they work so well. Good choice on the rims.

I agree with you completely 12" is wide but some people think it's a little skinny

syborg tt 09-23-2012 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 437540)
Looking good Marr-Tay. :D

295's were good enough for Rad Rides Notorious, right? :unibrow:

and that little mini-truck known as Syborg TT

syborg tt 09-23-2012 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 65 347 (Post 437595)
Marty
Car is coming along nicely, looking good!
With those wheels it looks like your new mountain bike.:thumbsup:
Mike

Okay I really like that BIKE !!!

syborg tt 09-23-2012 04:42 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - Setting the Ride Height

2012 09-23 Update - Setting the Ride Height
www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Evening all,

Okay time to set the car at the desired ride height.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/uploa...e43042d-me.jpg

The front is going to need some work to get it a little lower.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/uploa...84d91c5-me.jpg

Looks like we are off about 1 1/2" that should be easy to fix

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/uploa...cd869a3-me.jpg

Pictures hosted by www.garagescene.net

OLDFLM 09-24-2012 03:44 AM

2nd Gen 295 club!
 
What size tires are you running front and rear Marty?

What size rims and backspacing? I'm sure others will want to know...

Welcome to the 2nd Gen 295 club! :thumbsup:

Rick D 09-24-2012 04:25 AM

Looks great nice progress :unibrow: :D

syborg tt 09-24-2012 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLDFLM (Post 437697)
What size tires are you running front and rear Marty?

What size rims and backspacing? I'm sure others will want to know...

Welcome to the 2nd Gen 295 club! :thumbsup:

Uhm I forgot

Rear's
18 x 10 - bs 6.75"
BFG KDW2 - 295 35 18
Note: The DSE Mini Tubs allow me to bring the wheels in way further then a stock set up and yes these tubs are well worth the money.

Front's:
18 x 8 - bs 5.75"
BFG KDW2 - 255 35 18

Special Modifications
Ride Tech Upper & Lower Arms
Mcgaughy Drop Spindle
1/4 Spacer
Bear Tracker Tie Rod Ends ( modified spindle mount )

GrabberGT 09-24-2012 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syborg tt (Post 437728)
Uhm I forgot

Rear's
18 x 10 - bs 6.75"
BFG KDW2 - 295 35 18
Note: The DSE Mini Tubs allow me to bring the wheels in way further then a stock set up and yes these tubs are well worth the money.

Front's:
18 x 8 - bs 5.75"
BFG KDW2 - 255 35 18

Special Modifications
Ride Tech Upper & Lower Arms
Mcgaughy Drop Spindle
1/4 Spacer
Bear Tracker Tie Rod Ends ( modified spindle mount )

Just a thought for you. Im running the 295/35-18 and 265/35-18 and wish I would have gone with a 275 on the front. The 265 looks a little rubber-bandish from some angles. The sidewall height isnt what I am used to seeing.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-I...-00-57_608.jpg

syborg tt 09-24-2012 08:42 AM

Hi Chris,

I may end up swapping to the 275 up front like you've done. I really like that tire combo. Plus the 26" tall profile might help me not bottom out so much

ps - your car looks awesome and I love the front spoiler and we need more pics of it !!!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrabberGT (Post 437740)
Just a thought for you. Im running the 295/35-18 and 265/35-18 and wish I would have gone with a 275 on the front. The 265 looks a little rubber-bandish from some angles. The sidewall height isnt what I am used to seeing.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-I...-00-57_608.jpg


Ricochet 09-24-2012 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syborg tt (Post 437611)
and that little mini-truck known as Syborg TT

Oh...Now you call it a mini truck :lol:

Looking good Marty!!

syborg tt 09-24-2012 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricochet (Post 437747)
Oh...Now you call it a mini truck :lol:

Looking good Marty!!

I am pretty certain Rodger & Kenny can't fit in the car. So we can call this my mini car maro

syborg tt 09-24-2012 06:28 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - To 335 or not !!![

2012 09-24 Update - To 335 or not !!!
www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Evening all,

There has been a lot of progress on the car and I am playing catch up on the posts.

So here are the two tires side by side. 335 on the left and 295 on the right.

Since the goal it actually drive this car I am pretty sure I am going to be using the one on the right. However I will still make sure the bigger 335 fits under the car.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/uploa...0fd5c9f-me.jpg

We did however find another use for this tire. Yep it makes kid smile !!!

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/uploa...6e3f732-me.jpg

Pictures hosted by www.garagescene.net

coolwelder62 09-24-2012 06:37 PM

Marty,Very Cool.I remember when my boys would fit inside a tire.:thumbsup:

waynieZ 09-24-2012 08:05 PM

Either tire will look killer on there.

srh3trinity 09-25-2012 07:37 AM

I like the idea of having the option of running either. I am glad you put a picture up of a 295 because I was planning on staying around that size with my Firebird. It gives me some perspective.

ironworks 09-25-2012 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrabberGT (Post 437740)
Just a thought for you. Im running the 295/35-18 and 265/35-18 and wish I would have gone with a 275 on the front. The 265 looks a little rubber-bandish from some angles. The sidewall height isnt what I am used to seeing.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-I...-00-57_608.jpg

The sidewall height of the tire is more determined by the Profile or series of the tire and 265/40 would give you a better proportion that you wanted.

To do the math it goes like this
265 mm x .35 = 92.75 mm sidewall
295 mm x .35 = 103.25 mm sidewall
275 mm x .35 = 96.25 mm sidewall

but a 265/40 would be 265 mm x .4 = 106mm

So if you are maxed out on width go to a taller profile in the front then the rear. The profile number is just a percentage to the bigger the difference in width from front to rear the bigger the profile change needs to be. It is a pet peeve of mine to not have the same profile unless you trying for a big a little tire combo. If we were running a 335 rear tire and a 275 front tire the math would look like this.

335 mm x .30 = 100.5
275 mm x .35 = 96.25
275 mm x .40 = 110.00
or
285 mm x .35 = 99.75

Hopefully this info is slightly helpful. I have to work up tire combos all the time and it can be tough to get a perfect matched set as far as profile, compound, width and matching tread pattern.

Cool Maverick

syborg tt 09-25-2012 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srh3trinity (Post 437906)
I like the idea of having the option of running either. I am glad you put a picture up of a 295 because I was planning on staying around that size with my Firebird. It gives me some perspective.

Your welcome - glad I can help

Great Info Rodger - Thank you

and your right that is a bad ars Maverick

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 437911)
The sidewall height of the tire is more determined by the Profile or series of the tire and 265/40 would give you a better proportion that you wanted.

To do the math it goes like this
265 mm x .35 = 92.75 mm sidewall
295 mm x .35 = 103.25 mm sidewall
275 mm x .35 = 96.25 mm sidewall

but a 265/40 would be 265 mm x .4 = 106mm

So if you are maxed out on width go to a taller profile in the front then the rear. The profile number is just a percentage to the bigger the difference in width from front to rear the bigger the profile change needs to be. It is a pet peeve of mine to not have the same profile unless you trying for a big a little tire combo. If we were running a 335 rear tire and a 275 front tire the math would look like this.

335 mm x .30 = 100.5
275 mm x .35 = 96.25
275 mm x .40 = 110.00
or
285 mm x .35 = 99.75

Hopefully this info is slightly helpful. I have to work up tire combos all the time and it can be tough to get a perfect matched set as far as profile, compound, width and matching tread pattern.

Cool Maverick


DOOM 09-25-2012 09:11 AM

I still say left side!!!!:_paranoid ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

syborg tt 09-25-2012 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOOM (Post 437928)
I still say left side!!!!:_paranoid ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Of course you would - your car has a ba gillion HP and you need a tire like that. However I think yours is bigger

HWY Nova 09-25-2012 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syborg tt (Post 437927)

......and your right that is a bad ars Maverick


Huh.....I thought it was a Vega.



Marty,

Your camaro will look cool with either width. Use the narrower ones for going to the mountain-bike trails, and the wider tires for showing your car, like at Columbus!


--Eric

syborg tt 09-25-2012 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HWY Nova (Post 437932)
Huh.....I thought it was a Vega.

Marty,

Your camaro will look cool with either width. Use the narrower ones for going to the mountain-bike trails, and the wider tires for showing your car, like at Columbus!


--Eric

I agree I really like the 295 but the current trend is the 335 or 345 or even the new 405. But you know me I am not a trendy person. I am still wearing blue jeans and a T-Shirt every day

OLDFLM 09-25-2012 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 437911)
The sidewall height of the tire is more determined by the Profile or series of the tire and 265/40 would give you a better proportion that you wanted.

To do the math it goes like this
265 mm x .35 = 92.75 mm sidewall
295 mm x .35 = 103.25 mm sidewall
275 mm x .35 = 96.25 mm sidewall

but a 265/40 would be 265 mm x .4 = 106mm

So if you are maxed out on width go to a taller profile in the front then the rear. The profile number is just a percentage to the bigger the difference in width from front to rear the bigger the profile change needs to be. It is a pet peeve of mine to not have the same profile unless you trying for a big a little tire combo. If we were running a 335 rear tire and a 275 front tire the math would look like this.

335 mm x .30 = 100.5
275 mm x .35 = 96.25
275 mm x .40 = 110.00
or
285 mm x .35 = 99.75

Hopefully this info is slightly helpful. I have to work up tire combos all the time and it can be tough to get a perfect matched set as far as profile, compound, width and matching tread pattern.

295s are plenty big imho!

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/v..._897834534.jpg

And I like the taller sidewall, but I guess I'm a little more old school than some... 255/45/18s front and 295/40/18s rear.

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/v...-05Sema821.jpg

syborg tt 09-25-2012 05:52 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - Making Room for the Edelbrock Headers

2012 09-25 Update - Making Room for the Edelbrock Headers
www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Evening All,

To keep things simple I wanted off the shelf headers so I ordered up a set of Edlebrock shorty headers for a 2010 Camaro. Very nice
piece I may order a set for my 2010 Bumble Bee.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/uploa...d218ee2-me.jpg

We needed to add a little extra clearance so the guys at High Speed Welding notched the frame to clear one of the tubes on the passenger
side.The good news is the drivers side fit perfectly.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/uploa...47d2e5d-me.jpg

A close up of the motor mount stands welded to the stock subframe. I also used the Edelbrock set back plates so I could use the stock style
motor mounts.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/uploa...dd4dc1b-me.jpg

Looking down you see that the collector hits the subframe so a little more work is needed on the passenger side to make the header
work.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/uploa...eb58d58-me.jpg

One of the reason for the shorty headers is ground clearance. Since the car will be sitting 6" off the ground the exhaust needs to tuck
up tight to the floor. There is only 4" of space between the floor and the bottom of the subframe thus there is no true way to hide
the exhaust unless you run a down-pipe style exhaust.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/uploa...4c1c4f4-me.jpg

pictures hosted by www.garagescene.net

WSSix 09-25-2012 06:20 PM

If you poke around on tire rack's website, you can find the specifications section for each individual tire maker's tires. There they will list actual widths and heights. The numbers on the tires are as accurate and clothing sizes. The only down side is it has to be a brand they sell.

I also say left :)

glassman 09-25-2012 07:48 PM

Nice to see the progress....I dont know what you guys meen by "left", but Marty, I'd just like to let you know that every time i crash on my mountain bike and dirt bike, its left...lol

DOOM 09-26-2012 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syborg tt (Post 437937)
I agree I really like the 295 but the current trend is the 335 or 345 or even the new 405. But you know me I am not a trendy person. I am still wearing blue jeans and a T-Shirt every day

405!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF where can I get those!!!!!

Rick D 09-26-2012 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOOM (Post 438096)
405!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF where can I get those!!!!!

Size does matter to some guys I guess. :lol: :lol:

GrabberGT 09-26-2012 06:26 AM

Thanks guys for the kudos on the Mav. Means a lot coming from you all.

I like the 295. Anything more would be overkill and more costly to replace. And in my opinion, out of balance to the front tire size. Besides, I've barely got enough power now to break them loose with any kind authority.

And speaking of mountain bikes, I picked this up last weekend. Nothing fancy. Just something to beat on and commute during the winter here. Its a heavy pig but should make me stronger and leaner for the spring. Yesterdays epic fail was realizing I forgot how to bunny hop without being clipped into the pedals. OUCH!

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-J...4-30-13_98.jpg

Rick D 09-26-2012 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrabberGT (Post 438099)
Yesterdays epic fail was realizing I forgot how to bunny hop without being clipped into the pedals. OUCH!

Don't say clips around Marty :willy: :lol:

syborg tt 09-26-2012 07:45 AM

Screw the car - the Bike is Awesome.

Okay since your forgot how to Bunny Hop with clipless pedals and your riding "Flats" you need to go check out www.bikejames.com he is a MTB specific trainer and an advocate for "Flats" Remember "Clips" are for Tie's not Mountain Bikes.

I made the swtich back to flats about 1 1/2 ago and just sold most of my clipless stuff this week. My riding skills have excelled more in the last year. I can rail trails that I have struggled with for years. Trust me don't look back leave those cleapless pedals for the Roadieee's.

ps - buy your self a good pair of Teva or FiveTen sticky bottom shoe's and you wil be more connected to the bike then with clipless.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrabberGT (Post 438099)
And speaking of mountain bikes, I picked this up last weekend. Nothing fancy. Just something to beat on and commute during the winter here. Its a heavy pig but should make me stronger and leaner for the spring. Yesterdays epic fail was realizing I forgot how to bunny hop without being clipped into the pedals. OUCH!

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-J...4-30-13_98.jpg


syborg tt 09-26-2012 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick D (Post 438107)
Don't say clips around Marty :willy: :lol:

to late he already said it

214Chevy 09-26-2012 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOOM (Post 438096)
405!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF where can I get those!!!!!

The 405 only come in a 24". Pirelli makes them. The dually truck guys are converting the rear two tires to one with a 24x15 rim. Looks sweet on a big dually too. There is a guy running the 405/25/24 on a new Camaro....google it. Pirelli also makes a 375/20/21, but the sidewall is so short it looks no wider than a 345 per other forums I read.

OLDFLM 09-26-2012 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 214Chevelle (Post 438114)
The 405 only come in a 24". Pirelli makes them. The dually truck guys are converting the rear two tires to one with a 24x15 rim. Looks sweet on a big dually too. There is a guy running the 405/25/24 on a new Camaro....google it. Pirelli also makes a 375/20/21, but the sidewall is so short it looks no wider than a 345 per other forums I read.

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/v...LDFLM/405s.jpg

syborg tt 10-22-2012 02:28 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - High Speed Welding Edelbrock Exhaust Mod Post 1


2012 10-22 Update - High Speed Welding Edelbrock Exhaust Mod Post 1

www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Afternoon All,

The guys at High Speed Welding are finishing up the exhaust and it should be done by the end of the week.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/uploa...29f7523-me.jpg

The goal is to tuck the exhaust up tight to the stock floor pan.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/uploa...97ea122-me.jpg

Close up of the new downpipes on the shorty headers

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/uploa...c46ea29-me.jpg

You can see that nothing is hanging below the Stock Sub-Frame as the car will be 5 1/2" off the ground.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/uploa...ee5ac64-me.jpg

In order to tuck the muffler tight to the floor they had to raise a section of the stock floor pan.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/uploa...befc6e0-me.jpg

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/uploa...bad4128-me.jpg

It was very important to keep the factory rear seat for my girls to ride in.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/uploa...9443329-me.jpg

Finished front half of the exhaust.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/uploa...6feba85-me.jpg &

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/uploa...65a404a-me.jpg &

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/uploa...124a844-me.jpg

The G-Force cross member made tucking the exhaust up easy. This is a great piece !

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/uploa...95bd37f-me.jpg

Up and over the axle is going to be exciting as the car has been lowered 3" in the rear so it's going to be a tight squeeze.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/uploa...4249aa2-me.jpg

I love how pictures make things look closer then they actually are.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/uploa...e84e87d-me.jpg

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/uploa...0a1e890-me.jpg

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/uploa...85238b0-me.jpg


More to come this week.

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cencalc6 10-22-2012 04:33 PM

looking really nice!

radrambler 10-25-2012 06:10 PM

:thumbsup:

Tom

Hardluck13 10-25-2012 07:08 PM

I have 405's on my truck

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto..._5505612_n.jpg


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