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BBC71Nova 01-28-2013 05:16 PM

Looking good.

I too am interested in those clamps. I'll have to google around for them I guess.

Also, which epoxy are you spraying?

KPC67 01-28-2013 08:55 PM

:thankyou: ANOTHER 0? I can't do the math :lostmarbles:

oh its easy to figure out.
Adding 0 would still equal 75 time that your quarters will go off and on.

Sonar Chief 01-29-2013 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBC71Nova (Post 460911)
Looking good.

I too am interested in those clamps. I'll have to google around for them I guess.

Also, which epoxy are you spraying?

I googled for images and came to Jeff Lilly Restoration, seems they also use the same clamps, so I emailed them to see if they knew where to get them. I'll post if they reply with useful info.

I put a link up in the paint/ body thread to their website.

The epoxy? Finish 1 FP301 made by Martin Senour and sold at your local Napa.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KPC67 (Post 460974)
:thankyou: ANOTHER 0? I can't do the math :lostmarbles:

oh its easy to figure out.
Adding 0 would still equal 75 time that your quarters will go off and on.

Got it :headscratch:

Sonar Chief 02-16-2013 05:52 PM

2/16 Update
 
Some progress today started fitting everything to the firewall / cowl to get this thing welded .... not something to take lightly when the cowl, side cowls and the upper dash are new to the car. Paranoid? Maybe.

So I welded the driver's side bracket that holds the dash to the hinge pillar and the support I cut outa the middle (by the speaker bracket) and used clamps to hold everything. installed the brake booster, steering column, E brake and bolted the old upper dash to the dash and I have a larger gap on the driver's side dash to pillar then the passenger side .... hmmm. I even installed the kick panels to check the gap ... OCD?

That bracket gets welded to my new patch I made ... and the dash has to move towards the driver's side. :idea: Take it all apart and shorten that bracket some to let the dash come over .... that's for tomorrow thou.

http://imageshack.us/a/img801/5361/1302161779.jpg
Does anyone recognize this? :D
http://imageshack.us/a/img90/4296/1302161776.jpg
Getting all together!
http://imageshack.us/a/img11/8446/1302161785.jpg
Will have to modify this a little.

I have been busy with Stats 512 and homework and today was good to get out and work on the car ..... even if I have OCD .... I'll get her tomorrow :thumbsup:

Thanks for looking ..

Sonar Chief 02-17-2013 03:53 PM

Finally pulled the trigger!
 
The welder trigger that is .... took everything back apart and took that bracket off and put everything back together (w/ old dash top for reference) and got the gap equal on both sides ... probably better than GM did :rolleyes: Measured a gazillions times again and got some heat on the top cowl and then took my time to get the firewall attached to the cowl, did not warp anything ... and that's a good day.

Anyway, here are some pics, I'll finish dressing the welds another day ... have some homework to do now!!

http://imageshack.us/a/img837/4694/1302171787.jpg
Put some heat here and did some massaginh w/ BFH.
http://imageshack.us/a/img545/1305/1302171788.jpg
NO MORE CLAMPS :thumbsup:
http://imageshack.us/a/img689/4296/1302171793.jpg
Still straight, I'll finish the welds another day :thumbsup:

I still have to do the side cowls, piece of cake now that I have a good reference for them that's not going to move.

Thanks for looking ...

coolwelder62 02-17-2013 04:11 PM

Lookin real good.This 1st.gen will end up way better the second time around.GM never went to this kind of work in the fist place.

makoshark 02-17-2013 04:27 PM

Got it looking good there Chief. Nice looking welds!

tubbed69 02-17-2013 07:03 PM

very nice work,good looking welds

Roberts68 02-17-2013 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 465339)
Lookin real good.This 1st.gen will end up way better the second time around.GM never went to this kind of work in the fist place.

What Scott said! Way to go!:thumbsup:

Sonar Chief 02-18-2013 02:54 PM

Thanks guys
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 465339)
Lookin real good.This 1st.gen will end up way better the second time around.GM never went to this kind of work in the fist place.

:thankyou: it was gratifying to see that cowl welded in place. No more clamps :thumbsup: Your project is awesome by the way :thumbsup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 465344)
Got it looking good there Chief. Nice looking welds!

:thankyou: welding that cowl was a milestone ... can't' go back now! Wish I could help you with front fitment ... but I'm not there yet!

Quote:

Originally Posted by tubbed69 (Post 465411)
very nice work,good looking welds

:thankyou: I keep plugging away a little at a time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roberts68 (Post 465431)
What Scott said! Way to go!:thumbsup:

:thankyou: thanks for commenting, that means a lot :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
There is more to come ........

makoshark 02-18-2013 04:09 PM

Something is off on my car and I can't figure out exactly what it is. Fitting fenders, doors and hood shouldn't be this difficult, but it is on my car. I'm thinking, right now, that I may have to break the quarter loose in the door jamb area and see if there isn't some adjustment there. When I installed these NOS quarters, I got them to fit as tight as they could to the inner structure and to the doors.

Sonar Chief 03-03-2013 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 465612)
Something is off on my car and I can't figure out exactly what it is. Fitting fenders, doors and hood shouldn't be this difficult, but it is on my car. I'm thinking, right now, that I may have to break the quarter loose in the door jamb area and see if there isn't some adjustment there. When I installed these NOS quarters, I got them to fit as tight as they could to the inner structure and to the doors.

And that is why I don't want to touch my quarters :bang:

I'm working with my AMD rep here in town cuz my door skins don't fit over my frames with out persuasion ....:bang: Not sure where this will lead. :guns:

Sonar Chief 03-03-2013 04:05 PM

Update 3/3
 
Had a little time to work on the car, been busy at work. Just took a test for Stats so ... no homework for this weekend:D

So I finished the welds on the firewall and started getting the side cowls all lined up and screwed together, should be able to get welded here real soon.

http://imageshack.us/a/img801/2619/1303031800.jpg
Dressed the welds on the firewall.

http://imageshack.us/a/img41/6933/1303031799.jpg
Screwed the side cowls in place ....

Not much of an update but I only had a few hours and I'm paranoid when it comes to getting everything right before I start welding .... bear with me :popcorn2:

Thanks for looking....

makoshark 03-03-2013 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonar Chief (Post 468299)
And that is why I don't want to touch my quarters :bang:

I'm working with my AMD rep here in town cuz my door skins don't fit over my frames with out persuasion ....:bang: Not sure where this will lead. :guns:

What shape are your quarters in the door jamb area? If I had it to do all over again, I would not have removed the door jamb area, even with NOS quarters. I have been over this car measuring all over the place. All measurements and visuals show my quarters are dead on. From looking at pictures at other car's, the rockers seem a bit different than mine. It appears, from looking at pictures, my factory installed rockers are shaped slightly different than most. I can't get my fenders to align to the rockers and doors at the same time. I can only get one or the other:bang:

Have you already removed the original door skins without aligning the fenders to the original doors? If you already have, you may have opened Pandora's Box

Sonar Chief 03-04-2013 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 468310)
What shape are your quarters in the door jamb area? If I had it to do all over again, I would not have removed the door jamb area, even with NOS quarters. I have been over this car measuring all over the place. All measurements and visuals show my quarters are dead on. From looking at pictures at other car's, the rockers seem a bit different than mine. It appears, from looking at pictures, my factory installed rockers are shaped slightly different than most. I can't get my fenders to align to the rockers and doors at the same time. I can only get one or the other:bang:

Have you already removed the original door skins without aligning the fenders to the original doors? If you already have, you may have opened Pandora's Box

I did the GM fenders (w/shims) before I tore the car apart. The door skins are not tall enough to fit w/ some slack like OEM.

I do not plan on removing the quarters ... the jamb area is great, it 's the areas up high (behind the sail panel) w rust and of course the lower trunk drop off area.

Good luck with aligning ... sorry I can't help!

makoshark 03-04-2013 11:53 AM

That has been a problem with repop door skins for a while. Some have enough room to move the skin around, but then some don't. AMD seems to be a good company to work with, so I'm somewhat confident they will get it worked out for you.

Man I wish I could get some help on this front cap. I haven't even touched it lately. I moved on to cleaning up the cowl and welding on my dash top. My dash top was the first panel I removed from my car and was the last I replaced. I removed the dash completely from the car the other day because I think someone put a gallon of paint just on the dash. I wasn't interesting in spending a day or two just stripping paint from it. I'm going to sandblast it this week and get it welded back in.

Luck, it seems, is the only thing I'm gonna be able to have to get this cap lined up to my liking.

Too bad you and I don't live closer to one another. We could, together, have our cars moving at a tortoise pace rather than the snails pace we've been moving at.

Roberts68 03-04-2013 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 468476)
Too bad you and I don't live closer to one another. We could, together, have our cars moving at a tortoise pace rather than the snails pace we've been moving at.

^ That was funny, sorta sad how true it is for those of us counting down by the decade... but still funny.

Royalworks 03-04-2013 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 465612)
Something is off on my car and I can't figure out exactly what it is. Fitting fenders, doors and hood shouldn't be this difficult, but it is on my car. I'm thinking, right now, that I may have to break the quarter loose in the door jamb area and see if there isn't some adjustment there. When I installed these NOS quarters, I got them to fit as tight as they could to the inner structure and to the doors.

Did you replace your body bushings? Did you fit your doors first before you took off your quarters? I like to leave on the doors when I do quarters. Makes it a lot easier and then you know its all good. Some pictures would be helpful.

makoshark 03-04-2013 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royalworks (Post 468510)
Did you replace your body bushings? Did you fit your doors first before you took off your quarters? I like to leave on the doors when I do quarters. Makes it a lot easier and then you know its all good. Some pictures would be helpful.

Yes, solid bushings. Doors were fitted, but after the new quarter install, they were removed and not put back on for some time. With that lapse in time, I have not been able to get the fenders to fit the doors.

https://lateral-g.net/forums/show...=35882&page=20

Sonar Chief 03-09-2013 05:04 PM

So What to do
 
when it's snowing and too cold to work in the garage? You work inside, specifically the workshop (aka bathroom) and polish the front door glass. It's kinda messy and you need water so .... use the tub and pad with some towels :thumbsup: I ordered the Eastwood kit and it showed up yesterday so figured I'd put it to good use.

I did not have the window roller nut tool .... so the rear glass didn't get polished. I will order the tool and replacement stuff and get those done soon.

http://imageshack.us/a/img5/9563/1303091809.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img171/4046/1303091804.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img90/8176/1303091803.jpg

The glass came out great, there were a few marks on the glass (scratches) that took a while to clear up, but three passes on each side took about an hour and she's better than new. Not too bad for 48 year old glass:D

Really pleased with the kit :thumbsup:

Thanks for looking ...

makoshark 03-09-2013 06:19 PM

Wow! I'd say they turned out great because I can't even see them:) I'll have to try out that kit now that I know it works so well.

Roberts68 03-09-2013 07:29 PM

Do they offer more than one kit Chief?
Maybe throw out the part number you tried and liked?
Were your scratches deep enough to feel with your fingernail? I have some pretty deep ones in my original door windows that a glass guy told me 15 years ago were a lost cause.

randy 03-09-2013 07:33 PM

do you have a link to the kit you used. I need to do that too

waynieZ 03-09-2013 08:17 PM

Good to know the kit works. Thanks

Sonar Chief 03-09-2013 08:21 PM

Eastwood Polisher Kit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 469612)
Wow! I'd say they turned out great because I can't even see them:) I'll have to try out that kit now that I know it works so well.

I was very pleased with the results ... it's takes awhile (patience) but well worth it :thumbsup: The directions say to make a paste consistency of toothpaste .... I used a touch more water and just kept the polisher moving and kept it watery and don''t let it dry. It's only a 3" polishing pad that I put on my 7" polisher.

And since I was polishing in the tub I kept rinsing with water to check the results... slow speed on the polisher = 600rpm, just go slow and keep it moist.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roberts68 (Post 469623)
Do they offer more than one kit Chief?
Maybe throw out the part number you tried and liked?
Were your scratches deep enough to feel with your fingernail? I have some pretty deep ones in my original door windows that a glass guy told me 15 years ago were a lost cause.

I didn't have any deep scratches so I got the 12525 kit, they have a courser kit that is made for the deeper scratches #12526

Quote:

Originally Posted by randy (Post 469624)
do you have a link to the kit you used. I need to do that too

This will get you to the Pro Polishing kit I used.
http://www.eastwood.com/pro-glass-polishing-kit.html

Sonar Chief 03-09-2013 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 469632)
Good to know the kit works. Thanks

It worked great :thumbsup: and thanks!

makoshark 03-09-2013 10:45 PM

Based on the reviews from Eastwoods site, it appears the deep scratch kit does not work well on tempered glass. All the glass is tempered with the exception being the windshield. None the less, I'll still try it out.

Sonar Chief 03-10-2013 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 469653)
Based on the reviews from Eastwoods site, it appears the deep scratch kit does not work well on tempered glass. All the glass is tempered with the exception being the windshield. None the less, I'll still try it out.

Yeah I didn't read the writeup on the deep scratch kit cuz I didn't need it. I have to replace the front windshield and back glass, I would like to be able to see out of them ... know what I mean?

I might go with Auto City Classic's over sized glass to get rid of the trim and have it more like today"s cars, we'll wait and see.

Glad to see you made progress on the front end.

makoshark 03-10-2013 06:00 PM

What's wrong with your factory rear glass? Who wants to look back anyways, though.

Sonar Chief 03-13-2013 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 469758)
What's wrong with your factory rear glass? Who wants to look back anyways, though.

My back glass is scratched beyond repair .... and the front glass broke getting it out of the car.

Sonar Chief 03-14-2013 07:38 PM

Update 3/14
 
Nothing too exciting ... my tool for the window nut came in today ... so I figured I'd get the quarter windows polished :thumbsup: Why wait?

http://imageshack.us/a/img526/2346/1303141863.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img138/6055/1303141860.jpg

Came out really nice ... wrapped them up and put them away.

Thanks for looking ... should be welding this weekend, AND it's Spring Break -NO SCHOOL next week :thumbsup: just homework!

Sonar Chief 03-16-2013 03:46 PM

Finally a side cowl
 
welded in, now that's a good Camaro day:thumbsup:.

Got the passenger side cowl welded in ... little heat, some hammer/ dolly work, and some more heat and she's all good. I'm gonna wait on the outer shell til I can get some undercoat or Lizard Skin on the inside.

http://imageshack.us/a/img28/9853/1303161866.jpg
Welded and hammered in :thumbsup:

http://imageshack.us/a/img203/2594/1303161864.jpg
So that's what it will look like ... almost forgot :relax:

The driver's side will take more work cuz the stamping is off and I have to fill where I sliced to make it fit correctly .... but I will get on it tomorrow fer sure. If the temp is good tomorrow I may spray some epoxy ... we'll see!

Thanks for looking ....

Al Moreno 03-16-2013 04:51 PM

:clap: :cheers: Respect!

coolwelder62 03-16-2013 04:58 PM

Lookin great.:thumbsup: I hope the garage is stayin warm.

Roberts68 03-16-2013 05:33 PM

Well Done Chief! Good Camaro Day for sure!!

You know, I am pretty blessed with how clean my Camaros body is. At least as far as I know anyway... knock on wood. For me there is always a level of uncertainty. But I tell you what, you know exactly what you have and how meticulous and solid the work on yours is. Be very proud of your work. You set a great example.

Robert

Sonar Chief 03-16-2013 05:33 PM

Thanks!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Moreno (Post 470748)
:clap: :cheers: Respect!

Thanks for the compliment, appreciate it :thumbsup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 470751)
Lookin great.:thumbsup: I hope the garage is stayin warm.

:thankyou: This past week the temps were in the 50's and then 70 yesterday?? I need the heater in the morning but not for long, should be 50's tomorrow also :thumbsup:

Sonar Chief 03-16-2013 05:50 PM

Thanks!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roberts68 (Post 470756)
Well Done Chief! Good Camaro Day for sure!!

You know, I am pretty blessed with how clean my Camaros body is. At least as far as I know anyway... knock on wood. For me there is always a level of uncertainty. But I tell you what, you know exactly what you have and how meticulous and solid the work on yours is. Be very proud of your work. You set a great example.

Robert

:thankyou: :thankyou: I hope you not mind me stealing your Good Camaro Day saying .... but it fits.

I am just doing it the correct way ... hope someone else learns from this thread.

Roberts68 03-16-2013 06:12 PM

Mind? Heck no! I smiled when I read it.:D

I'm sure I'm not the only one learning from your thread either.

makoshark 03-17-2013 06:41 PM

Looks good Chief!

You all need to pass some of that 'Good Camaro Day' karma my way. I purchased trunk lid #5 and it showed up yesterday. Guess what? Didn't fit worth a darn. I haven't even braved trying to get back to work on my front cap. I'm probably going to go talk to a local resto shop and see about getting them to deal with it. I've just lost my patience for it. I'm ready to start block sanding and spraying some color damnit!!

Sonar Chief 03-17-2013 08:10 PM

Good day!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roberts68 (Post 470763)
Mind? Heck no! I smiled when I read it.:D

I'm sure I'm not the only one learning from your thread either.

I appreciate the compliment :thumbsup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 470910)
Looks good Chief!

You all need to pass some of that 'Good Camaro Day' karma my way. I purchased trunk lid #5 and it showed up yesterday. Guess what? Didn't fit worth a darn. I haven't even braved trying to get back to work on my front cap. I'm probably going to go talk to a local resto shop and see about getting them to deal with it. I've just lost my patience for it. I'm ready to start block sanding and spraying some color damnit!!

:thankyou: You can have all my karma you need, don't know if it's any good thou :D I bought my deck lid 11 years ago from Ricks and it fit just like the OEM ... guess I lucked out. I wish you luck.

I finished welding the driver's cowl .... what a PITA, made two patches where I had to slice the corners and wrestled it back in place. Weld, hammer/ dolly and more heat and she fits.

http://imageshack.us/a/img534/7797/1303171871.jpg
Good Camaro Day fer sure :thumbsup:

http://imageshack.us/a/img339/928/1303171872.jpg
Finish with some epoxy primer and some undercoat!


I'll finish dressing the welds another time .... I'm beat!

Thanks for looking.... time to :relax:


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