I don't believe it's part of the PSI harness. I've found they left multiple things out. I believe the neutral safety would only disable the starter. I'm using the harness from the car to engage the starter so it doesn't impact it. This is what I think the issues with terminal 52 is. 52 is the starter enabler relay and based on what I see on LS1 tech with others who have similar issues if you don't ground that wire then it will crank and not start. I think the ECM uses it as a safety.

After typing all that it seems you are on the same path. Perhaps pin 52 does work with the neutral safety circuit. I'm learning quickly but not enough of an expert to know.

IT'S ALIVE!!!!! :excited:


Added a wire to pin 52 and grounded it to out. Engine fired right up. Luckily I had the factory harness and was able to pull the pins out of it and insert directly into the new harness.

Now to make sure it's all running right...

Thanks everyone for all the help.

Sweet!!! Glad you got it sorted out hoping to start mine next week once I have the base tune loaded

Good job! How does it sound?

I've been so relieved it actually started I took a break from working on it today. It sounds pretty good without the exhaust but then again every car sounds good uncapped. Hopefully tomorrow I'll get the exhaust hooked up and some coolant in to to really hear it run

Another 2nd gen
 

Glad to hear you worked it out
My bird has had a intermittent short
For a while so I stopped driving very far
Finally found it this week and now I am driving
It and back finishing things on it

Enjoy and drive the hell out of it
That's why we build them

Panteracer

See, its always the last place you look.

Nice work gerno

Quick video of it running

http://vid52.photobucket.com/albums/...e/MOV_6414.mp4

Sounds great


Marty-MJ
www.garagescene.net

:thankyou:

Nice rumble!

That's the sound of music right there! Nice work Steve!

Your gonna love it when its dialed. It'll be worth the wait. Congrats on a major milestone!!

Still working thru a few details to finalize the engine swap but I made it to the dyno today and it lived.

Pretty happy with the power. It made 475/435 with a very flat torque curve. Corey (tuner) is a more conservative tuner to make the car last rather than peak out. He wants me to add an exhaust crossover. He thinks I'll gain 20-30 ftlbs in the mid range by doing so. Otherwise he says the combo's great with nothing else needed.

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Thats awesome Steve!!!

https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=42461 go down to post #17 when our friend "Yoda Sutton" chimes in, good stuff...

Nice numbers Steve!

I remember that post. I wonder where optimum is. Reality is that with the TA I don't have much of a choice where it will go

:thumbsup:

Nice and great to see it on the road.... so when's your first track day?

But I must say.... we really would have appreciated a dyno video. :hitaxeonthehead:

Thanks Guys

Think the next track day isn't until Feb/March but I need to check it out. I want to put some miles on it and get the bugs worked out. The PS pump pressure/volume isn't working with my steering box right now and leaks, there is a wiring issue with my fan relays, I'm waiting on a correctly machined Earls oil thermosat and I have a small leak somewhere in my brakes..

Beyond that I'm also decided to drink the Sutton Kool-aid... Once I move into my new place I'm going to try to get him all my measurements so he can help me with the overall suspension tune including adding a rear swap bar I hope.


I wanted a video too but missed the chance. He was working thru the drivability most of the time then would suddenly do a pull. Here is a really video of it running on the dyno. Given this quality you should be glad I don't have a full video

http://vid52.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_3619.mp4

Nice work!! nice numbers too.

Thanks Vince.



Here are some general pics of the overall setup. I still need to mount the oil catch better, clean up there air intake tube, get some 45 degree fitting for the heater and do some general cleanup but it's pretty close.

I'll get some more of the ground clearance and such after I get the alignment done so people looking to choose headers for a swap can see.


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Job well done Steve,I am sure you will be happy with the swap,makes the car a lot more enjoyable to drive:trophy-1302:

:thumbsup: Nice work Steve. You have to be pretty proud of all the work you've done yourself and the finished product.

Now get out there and beat on it till it breaks.
:cheers:

how is this air raid tube holding up to gluing it like that? I want to eliminate a middle coupler and smooth it out. Anyone have a opinion on the matter?

Hey Steve! You're doing work like a guy with a new house with a shop!! LOL


Yep - some sanding and a little paint when you get around to it - and it'll be SEMA ready!

Hey Greg - I'm still around and working on the car steadily. House and shop have actually given me more focus on the car, not less. Just haven't been so focused on updating the build thread.

March I ran Optima in Dallas
May and July hit up track days at TWS
Oct attended GG.
In between all of this I’ve been attending local AX’s

Overall the car is doing ok but in general it (or me) is better on the road course than the AX. I keep getting killed on the short tracks. It’s time to dig a bit deeper into my combo and tune out all the bugs. I’m working to get it all measured up to see what the geometry is really doing. Pics below shows how the car currently sits.

Changes so far

Swapped new front brakes from Wildwood FNSL with 13” rotors (they recommended) to Aero 6 with 14” rotors (Ron Recommended). This gave me a better 70/30 ratio and other added benefits. It's nice to have brakes..
Found geometry issues with the UCA’s - Speedtech build new ones. Alignment settings still seem less than optimal which is one reason for measurements.
Found the Speedtech TA was bent just before Optima in March - Speedtech overnighted a new one to help me get to the event.
Added a race bucket to hold me in place for big tracks - soo much better than the old ones.
Extended the throttle pedal throw to help modulate the throttle better.
Fixed geometry issues with the clutch pedal. Linkage was 1/4” to low - difference in the move was huge to pedal feel
Swapped in a 40lbs locker spring
Discovered all the crazy bolts that can come loose when running the hell out of a car on a roadcoarse

I’ll try to document the changes further as I go, just been too lazy the last year. I may try building a completely new subframe. Other option may be to do some small optimizations to this setup, keep it as a driver and start on a LS swapped wide body 240z track car. All depends what the measurements and my budget say.

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Great post and good reading Steve!!



Improving is a way of life.... so good for you!

Glad to see you still working on the car and having fun with it.

JIC your interested I have a Scott Mock C6 Sub sitting in my warehouse that it looks like I am going to be selling. PM me if your interested.

Hey Steve,

It was good to see you again at GG.

Details on the 240z?

Tu

I have ended up safety wiring just about every single suspension and exhaust fastener on my car. Major pain, but not as bad as dropping out of an event for something stupid like a wastegate bolt falling out. Or worse !

Agreed. I've now invested in safety wire and a tool for it. Soon I'll be in the same boat. I've had to drop from a few events due to bolts I never thought about coming loose


Good seeing you too, still can't believe you drove up just for the day.


The 240z project is more of a concert for me now. I know where a very cheap shell is locally. Based on the speeds I've been running on the road course and lack of real safety measures I have in the Camaro I'm highly considering a full frame/caged 240z build. Overall would probably be a as light as possible with a 3 link rear, revised front suspension, LS swap and monster tires all around with a wide body on it if I do anything at all.

After I get the Camaro measured up I'll know more of what I plan to do.

I wasn't planning on going to GG, but wanted to meet Ron Sutton, plus my friend (owner of the 65 fastback) was in town, and he's a huge car nut, so we decided to do a day trip.

I think I saw the ad on the 240z. Near Austin airport right? That will be cool to do a wide bodied 240z. Been tempting to do something similar, or a 4x4 LS powered Jeep.

That would be the one. Tried to go look at it a few times but other things or rain always get in the way. Maybe some time soon.

Other goal with the 240 would be to learn how to do body work and sheet metal forming. I figure if I can get the car for $300-500 and end up making a mess of it I can deal with the loss much easier than trying something new on the Camaro.

:poke:

Missed your post, sorry about that. The tube works great. No issues with it at all even though it's simply Gorilla glue holding it together.

Steve, I sure hope you stick with the 2nd Gen and keep modifying it your way and make it just how you want it to be. It's come a long way already.... keep on truckin.

In the grand scheme of things, there really aren't THAT many bad ass 1st and 2nd Gen Camaros out there.... it just seems like it looking at the cars on this site and some others.

So did this car sell? :action-smiley-027:

Not at all. Are you looking to buy so you can remember what it's like to drive a real car again???

:lol:

All I can say is quit listening to Rob. He knows not what he speak of. :EmoteClueless:

:mock:

:cheers: