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Vince@Meanstreets 05-23-2014 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 552213)
I'm trying out A6's ---- Gaetano is running R6's.... He doesn't run all that often -- in fact -- I think it's been two years since he last paraded around the track... :>)

9 months and 7 days, not that im counting

Vince@Meanstreets 05-23-2014 04:48 PM

for future reference
 
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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 544698)
The punch list....

-create mounting and install Woodward collapsible steering shaft
-install QD steering wheel
-install and plumb fuel cell
-install ATL fuel sender unit
-redo rear fuel supply with line bulk head
-modify rear sway bar mounting
-fabricate an easy to see and user friendly instrument panel
-rewire underdash
-replace rear shocks
-lose 50lbs
-quad brake lights
-install tracmate

done -create mounting and install Woodward collapsible steering shaft
done -install QD steering wheel
done -install and plumb fuel cell
done -install ATL fuel sender unit
done -redo rear fuel supply with line bulk head
done -modify rear sway bar mounting
done -fabricate an easy to see and user friendly instrument panel
done -rewire underdash
done -replace rear shocks
done -lose 50lbs--- 82lbs lost
later -quad brake lights
done -double adjust cockpit shocks with new upper mounts added
later -install tracmate

Track Junky 05-23-2014 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 552213)
I'm trying out A6's ---- Gaetano is running R6's.... He doesn't run all that often -- in fact -- I think it's been two years since he last paraded around the track... :>)

A6's will last you about 4 laps then they get slick. Most of the serious NASA Time Trial guys would use them to get quicker times and spend less time on the track beating up there cars.
You shouldn't worry though. At your pace you probably wont even reach optimum temps. :lol: :stirthepot:

GregWeld 05-23-2014 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 552230)
A6's will last you about 4 laps then they get slick. Most of the serious NASA Time Trial guys would use them to get quicker times and spend less time on the track beating up there cars.
You shouldn't worry though. At your pace you probably wont even reach optimum temps. :lol: :stirthepot:



Ron told me to keep the tires happy.... so that's my new mission in life -- Happy tires!!


HAHAHAHAHA



I've had this tire discussion with 9 million guys... they all have something to say... and I'll 100% guarantee that not one of them has ever checked their tire temperatures - or used a durometer... or have the right air pressure -- it's all hearsay and someone told someone one time about this guy they know. Ron, however, is using all his magic tools to guide me and the car... so I'll go with what HE KNOWS... not what someone else. I'll give the A6's a shot - if they come up to temp too quickly - he'll know it - and we'll do something different.

BTW -- if you think the A6's are soft - you should feel what the Yoko A005's feel like for the Lotus! Chewing gum on a hot sidewalk.... You'd think these wouldn't last 2 laps -- but my buddy that actually IS the Lotus Cup Unlimited Champion says that's what I should be running.... Since he's the US Champion in the same car -- I'll go with it. At $1800 a set... they gotta last more than 2 sessions!

Flash68 05-23-2014 09:53 PM

You gotta remember Gaetano doesn't hang around a bunch of Pro Posers... he's been at the track talking to NASA guys... running TT and other classes. They are doers.

Read the NASA forums (these guys run on the track more than post on the internet about wanting to run on a track). Many indeed have been switching to A6 in recent years over the R6.

Wait, did I just give Gaetano a compliment? :twak:

Can't we talk about 200 TW tires again? :underchair:

Sieg 05-23-2014 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 552267)
Ron told me to keep the tires happy.... so that's my new mission in life -- Happy tires!!

Here's your new official track day wake up music:



I know.............you can thank me later.

Vince@Meanstreets 05-23-2014 10:13 PM

haaa you should have posted the 24 hour video. bet it would have been quiet for about 22 hours. :D

Track Junky 05-23-2014 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 552267)
Ron told me to keep the tires happy.... so that's my new mission in life -- Happy tires!!


HAHAHAHAHA



I've had this tire discussion with 9 million guys... they all have something to say... and I'll 100% guarantee that not one of them has ever checked their tire temperatures - or used a durometer... or have the right air pressure -- it's all hearsay and someone told someone one time about this guy they know. Ron, however, is using all his magic tools to guide me and the car... so I'll go with what HE KNOWS... not what someone else. I'll give the A6's a shot - if they come up to temp too quickly - he'll know it - and we'll do something different.

BTW -- if you think the A6's are soft - you should feel what the Yoko A005's feel like for the Lotus! Chewing gum on a hot sidewalk.... You'd think these wouldn't last 2 laps -- but my buddy that actually IS the Lotus Cup Unlimited Champion says that's what I should be running.... Since he's the US Champion in the same car -- I'll go with it. At $1800 a set... they gotta last more than 2 sessions!

The A6's will come in within half a lap. That's what makes them nice. There also about a second faster than the R6's and typically the 3rd or 4th lap would be there fastest lap. After that they just came in because the tires would get slick and there times wouldn't get any better.
But hey, I'm willing to let you prove me wrong on your dime. :lol:

GregWeld 05-23-2014 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 552268)
You gotta remember Gaetano doesn't hang around a bunch of Pro Posers... he's been at the track talking to NASA guys... running TT and other classes. They are doers.

Read the NASA forums (these guys run on the track more than post on the internet about wanting to run on a track). Many indeed have been switching to A6 in recent years over the R6.

Wait, did I just give Gaetano a compliment? :twak:

Can't we talk about 200 TW tires again? :underchair:



I'm not saying Big G doesn't know what he's talking about -- or even the guys he may be hanging with...

BUT --- ALWAYS THE BIG BUTT....

Peoples cars are different - different weights - different everything.... this isn't spec racing. So what works for one guy and doesn't work for someone else is really just pure useless information as far as I'm concerned. IT's got to be done on a case by case basis...

What tracks people are running - how hard they're running - and all of that - there's just so many variables. So an A6 on one car is different than on another car depending on so many things. What's the ambient temp? etc.

As usual -- I'm always trying to post knowing that many other people may be reading this stuff... so I'm also throwing things in as food for thought. Some read and never post...

GregWeld 05-23-2014 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 552277)
The A6's will come in within half a lap. That's what makes them nice. There also about a second faster than the R6's and typically the 3rd or 4th lap would be there fastest lap. After that they just came in because the tires would get slick and there times wouldn't get any better.
But hey, I'm willing to let you prove me wrong on your dime. :lol:



I think you're missing the point.


RON took my tire temps after a full 9 laps -- multiple sessions over a two day period -- he writes them all down every time -- and THOSE ACTUAL TIRE TEMPS lead us to think that the A6 will be a better choice.

It's just real simple. The temps are the tell. Doesn't make ANY difference to me what worked or didn't on someone else's car or run. We're going by what MY car and tires told us. I have to go with a guy that has 468 wins and ran pro car teams... I'm pretty confident he's not just trying to sell tires (since he doesn't sell tires).


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