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70rs 07-07-2011 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by James OLC (Post 358288)
Glad you were able to figure that out Greg!

I've seen stuff like the header bolt deal happen before and I've never understood the mentality of the guy who had to have known about the issue but chose to (a) send it out anyways and (b) not mention it to anyone.

My guess is that in that guys mind "it all pays the same".
Why care either way when at the end of the week the paycheck is the same?

This is NOT how I think. And I have fired plenty of "those guys" over the years. I really don't get it either.

Gregs 32 is in much better hands now. I am sure it will be dialed in in no time.
Serious bummer you had to deal with all of that stuff, but at least you'll know it's done right now. :cheers:

toddshotrods 07-07-2011 11:23 AM

Agreed. Unfortunately, there seems to be a growing trend in this country with people not taking pride in their work. They want the money, plain and simple. I told a guy at my temporary, part-time, sales gig (who was cutting corners and laughing about it) that people like him are what's wrong with this country. He just shrugged it off and kept doing what he was doing. He really just didn't care. He was going to get paid either way, so why do anything beyond what he absolutely had to, and why not find a way to cheat on that? (That was his mentality, not mine). I used to tell the boss about crap like that I see on the job, but he really doesn't care either, because he never does anything about it. As long as his bonuses aren't affected, it's not his problem... Sad. :(

syborg tt 07-07-2011 11:39 AM

okay so next time where are you going to take you cars

So far the Rings, Roadster Shop, Steilow, DSE, Ride Tech/Precison Coach Works, RPM Hot Rods, Speed Tech & Kenny Davis actually build cars and then go out and beat the snot out of them. I know there are a few others sorry if i missed you.

ps I am going to keep adding names as i think of them.

GregWeld 07-07-2011 09:12 PM

It's funny because people are getting the wrong impression of this build... trust me when I tell you - the quality of the overall build is TOP TOP NOTCH.... it's just the little mechanical details where the shop really bites it. I know plenty of guys that can't seal a simple SBC intake... they blame their lack of skills on "SBC's always leak - they leaked from the factory".... etc. This was worse than that because there was not even a semblance of an attempt to do it right. :D

Either way -- it's no big deal to pull the intake off - clean her all up nice - and do a PROPER job. Trust me when I tell you -- SBC's do not always leak... from the top or the bottom! I have a couple of them and there's not one itty bitty tiny leak ANYWHERE. Now that the '32 is sealed up - it doesn't leak either!

I can tell you that the drivability - and the EZ EFI - is certainly a lot happier! It's tough for EFI to deal with uncontrolled intake air! And there is no more blue oil smoke out the exhaust either! I took it out for a nice long drive this afternoon and it's 500% better. I'll pull the driver side exhaust next week and do the same re-fit / bolt grinding exercise with it - just to be happy with the over all job.

With this fix - there are no more funky things left. Now it's a nice little hot rod!

I will say that the "vented tube" they made for the rear end is dang near a work of art... all hard lined - with brackets welded on to keep it still - and a nice little K&N filter on top the 1/2" tube..... it amazes me that they can build such wonderful little details - but can't change a f'n spark plug without messing it up. The work Tim Bruning did on the exhaust should be on display at the Smithsonian...

I also changed oil - I use only the cleanable reusable screen style billet oil filters (from Pure Power)... this allows me to peer into the motor a bit via the crud in the filter if any. I'm happy to report there was ZERO crud. There's only 1000 miles on the motor now - but regardless - I've been on pins and needles since the idiots ran it without oil pressure. SO FAR - SO GOOD. The valve train got a thorough inspection during the intake reseal job - and it's sterling as well. As long as all the plugs were out - I did a cylinder pressure test -- and a leak down test. Both were perfect.


Here's the cylinder pressure.....




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/IMG_1174.jpg




And here's the leakdown - with 100 psi - only air to be heard was past the rings (that's the CORRECT place to hear the air!)....



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/IMG_1175.jpg

BBC71Nova 07-07-2011 09:23 PM

As stated by others... more patience than me I think. Glad you got it ironed out.

By chance is there an empty lot near you? Having your "shed" as a neighbor, and you of course :), would be ridiculous. Just from the backgrounds of some of your pictures I can only imagine...

DRJDVM's '69 07-07-2011 09:30 PM

I think sometimes these shops end up using the "new guy" or the guy that lacks the true talent, skill and pride of the true "stars" of the shop (like Tim Bruning), to do these "menial jobs" like install the intake or hook up the headers.... the men in charge figure "hell, the guy cant possibly screw up that job and I can pay him $12/hr while my true "stars" are doing the hard work that takes real skill and talent, and they cost me $25/hr". So they let the "low talent" guys do the stuff they think they wont screw up....and then they screw it up.

But in the end the buck stops with the shop....you are only as strong as your weakest link.....and obviously they have some weak links in that shop..... to have crap like that walk out of a "high end" shop is crazy....wow.....

Have you talked to Tim about this stuff? I'm sure he know which guys are responsible.....

GregWeld 07-07-2011 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BBC71Nova (Post 358416)
As stated by others... more patience than me I think. Glad you got it ironed out.

By chance is there an empty lot near you? Having your "shed" as a neighbor, and you of course :), would be ridiculous. Just from the backgrounds of some of your pictures I can only imagine...

Oh I ran out of patience with the shop right after they ran my motor without oil pressure.... and Frisbee and his foreman are sportin' enlarged orifices where the sun don't shine.

And YES -- I wish you'd make an offer on the house right behind me! That old coot has lived there since the '50's and is a bonafide car hater... I've had to shoo him off a couple of times. Sadly - homes where I live are north of the high side of ridiculous. I live in the Beverly Hills of the northwest... Bellevue - or as I like to call it - BLAHview... and they don't much like hot rods 'round here. They're all noisy and didn't come from a dealership! :lol: I'm waiting for him to croak and then I'll buy the dump and split my shed driveway and put a nice "clean shed" (like Charley has - one to build in and one to polish in!) over there. Unfortunately my wife will never let me waste that much on a 'shed'. Maybe we could make a trade?? :rofl:

70rs 07-07-2011 10:16 PM

That lot would make a really nice spot for SHED 2.0!

Maybe after I get my car on the road I can do a 3 am drive by that guys house.....on open headers. "on my way to the muffler shop" of course. :D

Think that might help him decide to sell?

camcojb 07-07-2011 10:25 PM

I dunno, I always considered 15% leakdown high, as in needs to be rebuilt. Just did Charleys Ford Cammer and all were under 3.5%. Hope all is good.

GregWeld 07-08-2011 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by camcojb (Post 358437)
I dunno, I always considered 15% leakdown high, as in needs to be rebuilt. Just did Charleys Ford Cammer and all were under 3.5%. Hope all is good.



Everyone wants to have a hero engine, but don't believe all the hype you hear about 2 percent leakage engines. No cylinder seals perfectly, especially if the engine is nitroused, supercharged, or turbocharged where the top and second rings are set with wide ring endgaps. Even for normally aspirated engines, respectable leakage numbers would be anywhere from 8 to 12 percent with a variation between cylinders of 4 to 5 percent, but it's possible the variation could be as high as 10 percent.

So if you test an engine and see leakage numbers even in the 15 to 20 percent range, this is not cause for alarm



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