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Flash68 05-24-2014 09:22 PM

Glad you had a good day G. What were Karl's times today? Did Dave drive that car too?

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 552376)
I know he don't give a crap about that but next time post a vid of something to distract him.

He is having fun....4 sessions and no breakage. YEAH FOR ME!!!

Hasn't got the time from session 4 but so far he's @ 2:06 on crappy brakes. Something we will address before Sonoma.

6pm and the excuses are already out. :lol:

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 552400)
So what is it you don't like about them Greg?

Come on you know how it works now.. Sutton told him to not use those anymore. :rules:

GregWeld 05-24-2014 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 552403)
Come on you know how it works now.. Sutton told him to not use those anymore. :rules:



Just a minute -- I have to confer with my manager!


Yep -- it's all about the science of actually measuring things and then buying parts that work with the science. Yippeeeeeeeee

Vegas69 05-24-2014 09:38 PM

Same configuration Greg ran two weekends ago?

Track Junky 05-24-2014 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 552403)
Glad you had a good day G. What were Karl's times today? Did Dave drive that car too?

Karl said he blew the LS up at Sonoma recently. Car is on hold for now.

Flash68 05-25-2014 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 552406)
Same configuration Greg ran two weekends ago?

Nope.

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 552409)
Karl said he blew the LS up at Sonoma recently. Car is on hold for now.

Dang. Shoulda stuck with good ole proven old school stuff eh. That sucks. That motor is only about 6 months old or something.

Vince@Meanstreets 05-25-2014 12:31 AM

Old School New school they all need special attention and a regular tear down inspection. It happens.

Flash68 05-25-2014 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 552421)
Old School New school they all need special attention and a regular tear down inspection. It happens.

You know I was kidding. They don't short cut over there @ Life's Good Racing. It was a crate motor from Schwanke (not cheap at all).

GregWeld 05-25-2014 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 552406)
Same configuration Greg ran two weekends ago?




Todd -- It's really hard to figure out what the split is between the two configurations. Most folks just factor about 3 or 4 seconds faster for the bypass config. But - always the big butt - I've found track records with as little as 1 second difference.

If we just invoke the Andy Sutak rule -- it's 7 seconds. Close enough for government work. That puts Gaetano right there with "us". I should have added that he is the track record holder in every configuration - CW and CCW - with and without The Cyclone (aka The Crows Nest).

If you haven't seen an Andy Sutak Thunderhill video - or any of his videos - just YouTube the guy. He's holy smoking crack fast.

NASA TT track record holder in CLASS A (I don't know the HP/Weight rules in this class) -- running with the Cyclone -- in a 2006 Mustang is 2:10.077

I couldn't find a NASA TT time with the bypass for any car that I would think is "similar"... that have a posted track record.

My point is -- there's no set time you can assign for the difference in the two track configs... The generally accepted rule I always heard was 3 to 4 seconds - but I think it's more than that based on most of my homework with similar cars to what we are running.... yet I've also found track record holders running in the 1.40's with as little as a 1 second difference. Obviously those are very fast cars with very accomplished drivers - so that may account for the smaller split. IDK.

Seems to me he's doing pretty dang well.

Ron Sutton 05-25-2014 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 552339)
The plan is to have the car be capable of 2.05's -- and run 2.09's.... on cruise mode... Then pass those two fat tired big motor'd pigs like they're chained to the K wall.

They'll spend all afternoon under a hot car dialing two clicks here and letting out half piss of air... while I sit in my chair drinking tonics.


HA!!

Hey ! Don't forget you're cooking lunch ! :lol:




Ron Sutton 05-25-2014 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 552421)
Old School New school they all need special attention and a regular tear down inspection. It happens.


Yup, yup ... sure does. These powerful engines can not be treated like a plug-n-play toaster. They require TLC.




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