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Many of the people who have had issues were well before any transfer of the company, and I certainly think it's possible Travis just backed out of the sale after probably getting so many calls and finding out how things weren't ordered, he backed out smartly.

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Originally Posted by parsonsj (Post 406471)

You're wrong. No offense intended.

The Feedback forum functions as a place for direct interaction between consumers and vendors. It's intent is to provide a transparent place for such conversations, with a secondary effect of building a searchable database about vendors. If you have a look today, you'll see several threads about Driverz, and if you search, you'll find a dozen or more complaints over the past year.

That is very possible. Intent i always tricky to make a guess at and why I only stated that as my opinion based on the observation.

However, the functional effect of tilting the playing field in favor of discussion of the deals that do work while minimizing discussion of failures still holds true. I again admit that is a difficult thing to balance in the shoes of someone running the website.

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Originally Posted by The WidowMaker (Post 406463)

guys, unless the transfer was a lie, there is NO shady business. if he took your money with the intent to close the business then i totally agree. if he planned to transfer, thought he transfered and then travis backed out it would set anyone back. do you guys really expect him not to take orders a few months from a planned transfer? how is that supposed to be smooth?

and saying jon is travis is just plain stupid at this point. multiple people have commented that they met the guy. lets give up the bs and try and stay with the facts we have.

i only speak out since i had some first hand experience with my wheel order and working with the guy in charge of actually making them. rushforth and jon had nothing to do with my delay even though jon sold me the wheels and its rushforths company. i could have called jon all day long and bitched like others do, but it wouldnt have done any good. hes not making the wheels and hes not in anything but phone contact with the guy that is. i still dont understand why so much blame gets put on these vendors for delays. if they dont send your money off and instead pocket it or screw something up its one thing, but to answer calls all day long for something thats not your fault sucks.

i too hope jon comes on here and comments. even an excuse about lawyers would be better than nothing. and until a cc comany denies a claim, no one is out anything but time and peace. well thats unless youre like me and paid to have your wheels balanced and the fronts never got done. count me as being owed 20 bucks.

i feel for you and i really hope you get your money back, but calling him names isnt cool here. thats what makes this site the best. we should be able to have conversations with differing opinions without all the bs that other sites allow.

i still dont get how some people still give him(Jon) the benifit of the doubt ? how cut and dried is Jon Henson emailing me back and saying he has the wheels there in the shop ready to ship (the week before he said he was driving to AR to pick them up !),, but he hasnt shipped. he took my money 2 months before this and made me believe they were coming. No money No product. he says he dosnt have my wheels or my money.. you work that into your doubts,, these are facts i can backup with dated, hard documentation. Theres more i have taken in private msgs from others, but not my place to disclose.

A couple of my thoughts since anyone and everyone is throwing down. :)

1. Some people are not meant to run businesses. Ever. Some are meant to work for others (absolutely nothing wrong with that).

2. I do not know or claim to know what happened with Driverz/Jon/Travis/NewGenWheels... but I got 2 key words for ya'all... AMATEUR HOUR!!!

3. Lat G runs this forum better than anyone out there with regard to sponsor management. The PT forum runs theirs like they need the sponsors' money (not saying they actually do).

another thing ,, can someone tell where he would order his AR rims from? i need contact asap? someone should know..:(

Not only does this Jon character seem like A downright thief...I'm going to go ahead and call him a COWARD! guy needs to man up and take accountability for the money he has deliberately ripped off from hard working car enthusiasts! I'm glad I hadnt bought anything from the clown..but my younger brother did and had he been ripped off..I'd already be on my way to corona to "physically" collect my loses! Cheers

I hope I am not over stepping my boundaries here but I want to try and clear some things I have seen up close and personal over the last few months. Yes I worked at Driverz and left the company end of November. It was just not working out. That being said, there is absolutely nothing I can do to help get people any money back. Wish I could and I do feel bad for people who are currently involved.

Jon is not Travis and Travis is not Jon. That is complete non-sense. All I know is Travis was committed to buying to Driverz Inc earlier in the year, came into the office, posted he was the owner, become the owner, then decided he wanted out after a lot of money was committed to the cause. Jon made some bad business decisions and is paying the cost for putting his trust into people who turned out to not be trust worthy. Unfortunately, customers who had money spent with the company are also having to deal with the fall out. Driverz Inc is no more and in its wake Jon stands to lose everything from his personal car to his house. I know he was doing everything he could to fill orders but literally bled the well dry. I am not even sure Jon can post anything due to lawyers being involved. It a freakin mess. I am not making excuses just posting what I know.

If you have an order in, charge it back. Pretty cut and dry. Charge it back.

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 406468)

I'd apologize for calling the guy a tool if it was about his opinion. It wasn't.

When you dismount your diatribe about poor john by calling everyone penny pinchers it isn't about opinions it's about being a tool.

To be clear I didn't get taken by this scam but I've been burned by similar characters.

Just remember caveat emptor

The penny pinching comment was in fact my opinion on poor purchasing practices. I choose to deal with local vendors whenever possible, and when ever I did business with Jon, it was to buy New Gen products. If that is not feasible, I buy direct from the manufacturer. If they do not facilitate that business model, I shop elsewhere. I'll pay a premium to eliminate a middleman. So yes, in my opinion, the people who sit around on the internet, waiting for the next "we've found some random excuse to undercut our competitors to try and make a buck by selling bulk sale!" to buy a product they obviously can't afford are "penny pinchers".

As you put, "buyer beware." Which is funny, because legally, that has not been the precedent in this country since tort law was established. However, seeing as how you continue to inject yourself into an issue where as you have yourself admitted; you have no personal vested interest I'm sure you'll have some quip response that trys to pick out some minuscule and irrelevant portion of my post to try to validate your irrelevant posting into this issue.

Carry on guttersnipe!

I would be scared to death to have another person's hard earned money. Woof.

That would be very scary and stressful.