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Tony_SS 05-14-2013 06:10 PM

I blame all this on public school education, and the corporate news networks, where we are taught from a very early age to....

:king:

Vince@Meanstreets 05-14-2013 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony_SS (Post 480282)
I blame all this on public school education, and the corporate news networks, where we are taught from a very early age to....

:king:

We are nation built on fear and stagnancy... Keep your population hungry, uneducated, unhealthy and unarmed. Who did they learn that from?

garickman 05-14-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 69znc (Post 480268)
Gary

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The second amendment states "A WELL REGULATED MILITIA, BEING NECESSARY TO THE SECURITY OF A FREE STATE, THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"

When the second amendment was drafted, The United States did not have standing Army. As a result, our new nation depended on on-call militias. Because the people are members of a reserve militia, they keep and own there on military equipment, hence the wording in the second amendment.

Contrary to popular belief, the second amendment was not enacted to fend off a tyrannical government. There is no law, statute or Constitutional provision that exists in this country to allow someone to fight domestic tyranny, which is generally described as oppressive with absolute power vested in a si
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If you really believe our Constitution was not drafted to fend off a tyrannical government you need to talk to some independent Constitutional scholars and spend more time reading how fragile and "out of mainstream" i.e. people really wanted to kill the founders and YES the fear of another tyrannical government drove them to risk there lives to move this independence forward.....

The problem with independent Constitution scholars is that they all have different opinions on what our founding fathers intentions were in the drafting of the Constitution. Granted these scholars have a far far greater amount of knowledge than I have or ever will have for that matter. I agree that if one is an expert of the Constitution and of the Federalist Papers, the history of the United States, Shays Rebellion, the whiskey rebellion, etc. they could probably come up with a very educated opinion on what the intentions were of our founding fathers. The problem is it would still just be an opinion.

Not everything I have posted in this thread do I necessarily agree with. I base my arguments on facts as they are today. As I have stated before, there is no law, statute, or Constitutional provision that exists in this country that allows someone to fight domestic tyranny. There is also nothing in the Constitution to suggest the second amendment was enacted to fend off a tyrannical government. Therefore it would not matter if all the independent Constitutional scholars in the world all agreed that defense against a tyrannical government was in fact the basis of the second amendment. Last time I checked a scholar's opinion could not create case law.

The only point I have ever tried to get across is a fact, whether we agree or disagree, it is a fact that as of today can not be disputed. The fact is the the only entity today that can interpret the Constitution is the United States Supreme Court, and when they hand down a decision in regards to the Constitution it becomes case law and it can not be disputed.

D impala95 05-14-2013 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 480270)

Oh you can appologize for being a doosh. That's fine.
And another thing, I will never push my opinion, I will never tell you what or how to think. I will however give you things to think about and will always have an open mind. And if I hurt your feeling Greg, good, that will help you remember why. LOL

I guess that means you have to take your car out of his shop. Lol

garickman 05-14-2013 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by D impala95 (Post 480294)
I guess that means you have to take your car out of his shop. Lol

WHAT!! That A** H*** has my car in his shop. That's going to change:warning:

andrewb70 05-14-2013 07:15 PM

Just to liven things up....

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/n...,3022693.story

LOL...

Andrew

Vince@Meanstreets 05-14-2013 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by garickman (Post 480297)
WHAT!! That A** H*** has my car in his shop. That's going to change:warning:

:action-smiley-027:

What car?? I see no build thread??? Baahhhhhaaaaa

Vince@Meanstreets 05-14-2013 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by andrewb70 (Post 480299)
Just to liven things up....

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/n...,3022693.story

LOL...

Andrew

You think that's funny Andrew, there was a recent story on the gun buy back program. Talk about a joke.

garickman 05-14-2013 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 480311)
You think that's funny Andrew, there was a recent story on the gun buy back program. Talk about a joke.

Gun buy backs are a necessity to those cities running low on man hole covers.

Shmoov69 05-14-2013 09:09 PM

Actually I think (uh oh, that's where this all got started, people thinking!!) that of all the people posting in this thread, there is probably only one that actually "knows" what he is talking about. Or at least more than anyone else... The guy not even from here, Andrew. I believe that his "opinion" is probably more "on target" than anyone else's here about our own history and government! :thumbsup:

Now back to the :catfight:

LOL!


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