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waynieZ 11-19-2014 01:19 PM

Happy to report....no rubbing. Brakes are performing perfectly. Love this car. Ready for the LS and 6 speed. Ok. Maybe not....kind of worn out. Need the break.

David[/QUOTE]

Great news! Its so nice when you take them out and come back with a minimal punch list.

Stovebolter 11-20-2014 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Nativefx (Post 582066)
Great looking car! I see you stuck with the 5.75" BS even though your wheels are a little narrower than the 10" Ridetech says will fit with that BS and the Tru-turn set-up on stock subframe. Even though you are still running 275/35/18 tires, do you think this gave you a little more clearance so you don't have rubbing issues? I'm trying to decide on rim width and BS at the moment and don't want to push the limits to much and then find out I have to modify my fenders. I'll thinking about either 9" - 9.5" wide in the front with 265/35/18.

What tire size are you running on the rear and is the backspacing 6"? I know your rims are 18x12 but didn't see any tire size or BS. I'm looking at 19's for the rear and debating on 11" - 12" as I want to run a 325/30/19 tire. Just looking for help to determine what will fit with as little problems as possible on my 69 Firebird. Obviously a shortened rear end will be needed, but not sure if i'll go with a floater. I'm also running the RT air set up for the exact reason you can see in your photos!:excited:

I believe it gave me the clearance I needed, but I have to stress that I did modify the inner fender considerably. I personally can't see how even a 1" narrower wheel would clear the factory inner with anything lower than a stock height suspension. As far as rear, I'm running the 335s on the rear with 6" bs. Let me tell you.....its tight in there with the 335s. Lol. I think I have 1/4" of clearance on either side of my tire of both wheels. But....the previous owner had rolled the lips of both wheels wells. If I were you....I would plan on rolling the lips on the rear openings.....and plan on modifying the inner wheel house. I rolled my fronts until they were straight up....split the inner in several places up to the highest point of housing and cut at the flange, allowing me to push each piece up and added a filler piece behind the flange.

If I could do it over again, personally I would stay with the 9.5's and add 1/2" of bs. Then I would notch and fill the needed space at the frame under full lock. But that's just my car. After a lot of measuring i determined that I was lucky to have a frame in perfect shape.

Stovebolter 11-20-2014 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Nativefx (Post 582066)
Great looking car! I see you stuck with the 5.75" BS even though your wheels are a little narrower than the 10" Ridetech says will fit with that BS and the Tru-turn set-up on stock subframe. Even though you are still running 275/35/18 tires, do you think this gave you a little more clearance so you don't have rubbing issues? I'm trying to decide on rim width and BS at the moment and don't want to push the limits to much and then find out I have to modify my fenders. I'll thinking about either 9" - 9.5" wide in the front with 265/35/18.

What tire size are you running on the rear and is the backspacing 6"? I know your rims are 18x12 but didn't see any tire size or BS. I'm looking at 19's for the rear and debating on 11" - 12" as I want to run a 325/30/19 tire. Just looking for help to determine what will fit with as little problems as possible on my 69 Firebird. Obviously a shortened rear end will be needed, but not sure if i'll go with a floater. I'm also running the RT air set up for the exact reason you can see in your photos!:excited:

The only thing that I have found that disappoints me is the turning radius of this car. I can't remember how the car felt in parking lots before the Ridetech Trueturn conversion. That may just be the nature of the 1rs gen Camaro? I even left out the stops on the a arms....still wish my tires would turn in more.

Stovebolter 11-20-2014 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 582070)
Happy to report....no rubbing. Brakes are performing perfectly. Love this car. Ready for the LS and 6 speed. Ok. Maybe not....kind of worn out. Need the break.

David

Great news! Its so nice when you take them out and come back with a minimal punch list.[/QUOTE]

Wayne,

Other than the turning radius being bigger than I would like......I love this set up! I also have to do some tuning on the torque arm. Good thing I built a lot of adjustment into this thing and had help from members here (thanks to Payton, Ron, and Jay) in judging where to start for mounting points. I have a little bit of wheel hop but not severe.

David

coolwelder62 11-20-2014 02:17 PM

What an Awesome project. You have a beautiful Family.Keep up the great work.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Stovebolter 11-20-2014 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 582238)
What an Awesome project. You have a beautiful Family.Keep up the great work.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thanks Scott.

Nativefx 11-23-2014 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Stovebolter (Post 582216)
I believe it gave me the clearance I needed, but I have to stress that I did modify the inner fender considerably. I personally can't see how even a 1" narrower wheel would clear the factory inner with anything lower than a stock height suspension. As far as rear, I'm running the 335s on the rear with 6" bs. Let me tell you.....its tight in there with the 335s. Lol. I think I have 1/4" of clearance on either side of my tire of both wheels. But....the previous owner had rolled the lips of both wheels wells. If I were you....I would plan on rolling the lips on the rear openings.....and plan on modifying the inner wheel house. I rolled my fronts until they were straight up....split the inner in several places up to the highest point of housing and cut at the flange, allowing me to push each piece up and added a filler piece behind the flange.

If I could do it over again, personally I would stay with the 9.5's and add 1/2" of bs. Then I would notch and fill the needed space at the frame under full lock. But that's just my car. After a lot of measuring i determined that I was lucky to have a frame in perfect shape.

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Originally Posted by Stovebolter (Post 582217)
The only thing that I have found that disappoints me is the turning radius of this car. I can't remember how the car felt in parking lots before the Ridetech Trueturn conversion. That may just be the nature of the 1rs gen Camaro? I even left out the stops on the a arms....still wish my tires would turn in more.

Thanks for all your help. I'm looking at running 18 x 9.5" w/5.5" BS in the front with a 265/35/18 Pilot Super Sport tire. For the rear I'm looking at a 19 x 11.5" w/5" BS in the rear with a 325/30/19 Pilot Super Sport. These will be going on some Forgeline 2" Concave series wheels, so hopefully I'll get the look I want and still have a decent lip in the rear. With Foreglines sale going on, I'm trying to get this pinned down to place my order.

Taking in the difference in brakes that has been long discussed and how much the rotor hat can change the width in the front, I'm hoping we are somewhat close as you are running the Kore C6 Z06 calipers which I believe increase width on the front? I'm running the Baer 6P 14" which is the same setup Ridetech used on their mockup so hopefully I should be okay. A little modification to the front inner fenders is okay, I just don't want a WHOLE lot of problems getting them to fit. You said your turning radius has changed, but if you don't have much rubbing on the frame or control arms how did your turning radius become affected?

Stovebolter 11-23-2014 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nativefx (Post 582625)
Thanks for all your help. I'm looking at running 18 x 9.5" w/5.5" BS in the front with a 265/35/18 Pilot Super Sport tire. For the rear I'm looking at a 19 x 11.5" w/5" BS in the rear with a 325/30/19 Pilot Super Sport. These will be going on some Forgeline 2" Concave series wheels, so hopefully I'll get the look I want and still have a decent lip in the rear. With Foreglines sale going on, I'm trying to get this pinned down to place my order.

Taking in the difference in brakes that has been long discussed and how much the rotor hat can change the width in the front, I'm hoping we are somewhat close as you are running the Kore C6 Z06 calipers which I believe increase width on the front? I'm running the Baer 6P 14" which is the same setup Ridetech used on their mockup so hopefully I should be okay. A little modification to the front inner fenders is okay, I just don't want a WHOLE lot of problems getting them to fit. You said your turning radius has changed, but if you don't have much rubbing on the frame or control arms how did your turning radius become affected?

Yes...I think Tobins rotors add 1/4" per side in track width but it would be best to ask him. As far as turning radius....I think it's because I'm use to driving modern cars with rack and pinion steering. Lol. But seriously.....it seems like my turning radius is worse. I've got myself in a couple situations where I had to make two stabs at turning into a business. Think I may be spoiled with modern car-itis.

Nativefx 11-29-2014 11:27 AM

When you were mocking up your rear end and placed the wheels/tires under the car, how much room did you leave between the tire and outer fender? Also between the inner fender and tire?

I just placed my order for some Forgelines 19x11.5 with 5"BS and i'm planning to run 325/30/19 Super Sport tires so i'm hopeful with the 69 fenders I also won't have any rubbing issues if I measure correctly to order a shortened rear end.

Stovebolter 11-30-2014 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Nativefx (Post 583491)
When you were mocking up your rear end and placed the wheels/tires under the car, how much room did you leave between the tire and outer fender? Also between the inner fender and tire?

I just placed my order for some Forgelines 19x11.5 with 5"BS and i'm planning to run 325/30/19 Super Sport tires so i'm hopeful with the 69 fenders I also won't have any rubbing issues if I measure correctly to order a shortened rear end.

I mounted my tires on the wheels, placed them in the wheel wells, dropped the car to ride height and measured between the wheels. That's the same suggestion others on here gave me. And it worked out for me. It will tell you what you need for distance wheel mount to wheel mount. BTW....you should have a little extra room with the 325s and a mini tub compared to my set up.


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