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EvoIX 04-20-2013 04:09 PM

That's a sexy motor in there

67XR7 04-21-2013 11:54 AM

you decide on how you want to do the tower deletes? weld or bolt in?

Cant decide on mine. part of me says: weld it, and make them look clean and flush.

Other part says: bolt them in. so once i go mod motor , i can remove panels to get to difficult bolts etc.

Matt@BOS 04-21-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 67XR7 (Post 476307)
you decide on how you want to do the tower deletes? weld or bolt in?

Cant decide on mine. part of me says: weld it, and make them look clean and flush.

Other part says: bolt them in. so once i go mod motor , i can remove panels to get to difficult bolts etc.

I decided to bolt them in. I figured it couldn't hurt to have another access panel.

CoffeeTalkJoe 04-24-2013 01:03 PM

Awesome...............Can't wait to see the end product!!!

tones2SS 04-24-2013 05:26 PM

Looks great Matt. I like it better with the coil covers. Maybe because of the blue? Either way, looks great.
Love the Boss intake.:thumbsup:

Matt@BOS 04-24-2013 10:31 PM

Thanks everyone for the encouraging words!

Since the last update I've been busy fitting the transmission, which has led me to cut up all kinds of stuff. I started out trying to make a transmission tunnel, and then realized I needed to have the trans crossmember in to make sure it all fits, but then I realized I couldn't do that until I made sure that the transmission tunnel cleared the seats so I had to put the seats in and those wouldn't fit without a little clearance(ing) and making custom mounting brackets and modifications to the seat pans. What was I trying to accomplish again? :hairpullout:

Oh and I got a box of parts from the Ring Brothers, they make top notch stuff for sure!

waynieZ 04-24-2013 11:22 PM

You'll get it Matt look at all you acomplished already.

coolwelder62 04-25-2013 05:26 AM

Pretty Cool.:thumbsup: Wouldn't mind havin a fastback mustang for my self.

GrabberGT 04-25-2013 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 476958)
Thanks everyone for the encouraging words!

Since the last update I've been busy fitting the transmission, which has led me to cut up all kinds of stuff. I started out trying to make a transmission tunnel, and then realized I needed to have the trans crossmember in to make sure it all fits, but then I realized I couldn't do that until I made sure that the transmission tunnel cleared the seats so I had to put the seats in and those wouldn't fit without a little clearance(ing) and making custom mounting brackets and modifications to the seat pans. What was I trying to accomplish again? :hairpullout:

Oh and I got a box of parts from the Ring Brothers, they make top notch stuff for sure!

LOL... Ever feel like your the comic relief for the more experienced builders. I know I do. Keep up the good work. Looks awesome so far.

67XR7 04-25-2013 11:30 AM

not to rub it in but a TKO would have been a Waaay easier fit! just say'n

Matt@BOS 04-25-2013 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 67XR7 (Post 477031)
not to rub it in but a TKO would have been a Waaay easier fit! just say'n

No worries. I'd rather complain about my TR6060 than toss in a TKO lol. The way I have the drivetrain positioned and pedals set, it would be hard to reach the shifter on the TKO. Oh and I plan on some shifts at close to 8k rpm. I don't think TKOs are good at that.

Flash68 04-25-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 67XR7 (Post 477031)
not to rub it in but a TKO would have been a Waaay easier fit! just say'n

The TKO is not the trans you hook up to that motor. That lesson has been learned by many already.

67XR7 04-26-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 477036)
No worries. I'd rather complain about my TR6060 than toss in a TKO lol. The way I have the drivetrain positioned and pedals set, it would be hard to reach the shifter on the TKO. Oh and I plan on some shifts at close to 8k rpm. I don't think TKOs are good at that.

For some reason I was thinking you were installing the stock tranny, that Mt82 or whatever it is. After about 2003 I havent been able to keep track of what POS ford has been using for a gear box.

Matt@BOS 04-26-2013 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 67XR7 (Post 477202)
For some reason I was thinking you were installing the stock tranny, that Mt82 or whatever it is. After about 2003 I havent been able to keep track of what POS ford has been using for a gear box.

The MT82 seems to garner a lot of horror stories around the internet. Generally I tend to think most reported issues are blown out of proportion since, well... we're talking about issues reported on the internet. However, I've also learned that I'm good at blowing things up, and the TR6060 has worked perfectly in my Shelby, so it seemed like a logical choice, not to mention the fact that I had one sitting on a pallet.

Matt@BOS 04-26-2013 06:38 PM

must... not... buy:

http://www.eightstack.com/coyote02.png

Ah, who am I kidding, I still need to purchase a gazillion other parts, and I know there won't be any "leftover" money for this. But maybe... :lol:

Ron in SoCal 04-26-2013 06:55 PM

Rhetorical question: how many ITB intakes can you fit on your shelf Matt :D

Track Junky 04-26-2013 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 475978)

Awesome choice. Motor looks right at home. :thumbsup:

Rols574 04-27-2013 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 477052)
The TKO is not the trans you hook up to that motor. That lesson has been learned by many already.

I'd like to hear more about this

57hemicuda 04-27-2013 05:18 AM

Its funny, I terrorized that TKO in my Mustang with no problems, even behind the 700hp LS7 it never gave me any issues. The only thing I noticed is when it was extremely hot (VIR on a 110 degree day hot) you had to be sure to make positive shifts especially in 3rd gear. As long as you knew that, it worked great, I think with some sort of cooler even that wouldn't be an issue.

67XR7 04-27-2013 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 477284)
must... not... buy:

http://www.eightstack.com/coyote02.png

Ah, who am I kidding, I still need to purchase a gazillion other parts, and I know there won't be any "leftover" money for this. But maybe... :lol:

left over money?
"TR6060 has worked perfectly in my Shelby, so it seemed like a logical choice, not to mention the fact that I had one sitting on a pallet."
coming from the guy who just also happens to have a Shelby and 6 spd transmissions just laying around :rolleyes:
BUY IT! LOL

John510 04-27-2013 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 477286)
Rhetorical question: how many ITB intakes can you fit on your shelf Matt :D

I agree. Get the intake!!!! It would look so bad ass on this car.

craig510 04-27-2013 02:33 PM

Nothing is cooler than 4 webers, but by the time you add air filters to make it a real driver you will hardly be able to see the "stacks". Personally, I think the V8's on the throttle bodies are overly cheesy. If you can't tell that is a V8, you are at the wrong place. IMHO the boss intake looks great. It is real OEM performance and flat works. It will probably save several pounds over the aftermarket stuff and can use a real air filter. Plus if you need spares, any ford dealer in the nation can have part in a day or two.

WSSix 04-27-2013 07:49 PM

I love individual throttle bodies but they don't flow aesthetics wise on this engine. Well, I think they could work and look good but you'd definitely have to dress up other areas. Maybe the picture showing the stock, read ugly, valve covers is what's ruining it for me and making them look so out of place. For now, I say keep the stock intake. Clean and well organized beats shiny and overly dressed up any day for me.

Keep up the good work, Matt. The car's coming along nicely.

Flash68 04-27-2013 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rols574 (Post 477359)
I'd like to hear more about this

Many many stories of issues with high rpm shifting. So depending on your usage it may not be the best choice.

Al Moreno 04-28-2013 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 477284)
must... not... buy:

http://www.eightstack.com/coyote02.png

Ah, who am I kidding, I still need to purchase a gazillion other parts, and I know there won't be any "leftover" money for this. But maybe... :lol:

Matt you've already bought it and you don't even know it, LOL:G-Dub:

Flash68 06-23-2013 09:32 PM

A guy gets an Optima invite with the Camaro and neglects the poor little Fjord? :sieg:

Vince@Meanstreets 06-23-2013 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 67XR7 (Post 477373)
left over money?
"TR6060 has worked perfectly in my Shelby, so it seemed like a logical choice, not to mention the fact that I had one sitting on a pallet."
coming from the guy who just also happens to have a Shelby and 6 spd transmissions just laying around :rolleyes:
BUY IT! LOL

im with him, do it do it :thumbsup:

Matt@BOS 06-23-2013 10:52 PM

Good going Vince, you just had to bring this back to bug me about buying those parts, didn't you?

No go on the manifold. Decided to spend money elsewhere. $$ have been diverted to buying more Camaro parts. There was that part of me that said I should be more responsible, and leave the finished car alone, and also not buy parts to replace perfectly functioning parts on a Mustang that I don't have anywhere close to running, but there was no significant other to put her foot down and tell me not to, and since the Camaro and I get to go to Optima I figured it was now or never to see how fast I could get both the car and myself. I'm happy just to go, but apparently I'm more competitive than I previously thought, because I would like to finish the event knowing There wasn't anything more left in the car or driver.

Matt

Flash68 06-23-2013 10:55 PM

Wow. You are not d!ckin around!! :RunninDog:

Matt@BOS 06-23-2013 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 488923)
Wow. You are not d!ckin around!! :RunninDog:

It scares me Dave. I am becoming worse than Todd. I even have black nitrile gloves that I put on to remove and change parts now. Even worse is the fact that I know have more springs and sway bars than Ron.

Basically, I can't overcome the push in the Camaro to the point that I'm happy. It is plenty fast, don't get me wrong. I've come in second fastest behind Maier and Hobaugh at the last two SoCal Challenge events, but the car isn't easy to drive. It has absurd power but in order to use that power I need tune the car to be a bit tight, and I give up a lot of time on corner entry in 90 degree or tighter turns. At the end of the I just caved and bought wider fiberglass fenders so that I can run a 295 or 315 front tire. Now I have to repaint half the car because Dick and the BOS boys don't want some ****ty looking purple car with their name on it rolling up to SEMA with unpainted black gelcoat fenders.

Vince@Meanstreets 06-24-2013 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 488922)
Good going Vince, you just had to bring this back to bug me about buying those parts, didn't you?

No go on the manifold. Decided to spend money elsewhere. $$ have been diverted to buying more Camaro parts. There was that part of me that said I should be more responsible, and leave the finished car alone, and also not buy parts to replace perfectly functioning parts on a Mustang that I don't have anywhere close to running, but there was no significant other to put her foot down and tell me not to, and since the Camaro and I get to go to Optima I figured it was now or never to see how fast I could get both the car and myself. I'm happy just to go, but apparently I'm more competitive than I previously thought, because I would like to finish the event knowing There wasn't anything more left in the car or driver.

Matt

:D it was worth the try! :thumbsup:

fleet 06-24-2013 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 488931)
Now I have to repaint half the car because Dick and the BOS boys don't want some ****ty looking purple car with their name on it rolling up to SEMA with unpainted black gelcoat fenders.

It seems like a reasonable request from your metalshaping mentors.:unibrow:

Al Moreno 06-24-2013 05:51 AM

Matt I guess they are right when they say there never done, LOL. Congrats on the invite!

Matt@BOS 06-24-2013 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 488943)
It seems like a reasonable request from your metalshaping mentors.:unibrow:

Reasonable idea, yes. I suppose even the cost is reasonable. Like James Shipka once said though, its our ideas that get expensive. I want to see how the parts fit, and how closely we can match the paint after having to switch to water based. If both are acceptably close for something that isn't a show car, then I'd prefer to just paint the fenders. That way, in case I want to put the old ones back I don't have to repaint half the car again...

Matt@BOS 06-24-2013 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Al Moreno (Post 488950)
Matt I guess they are right when they say there never done, LOL. Congrats on the invite!

They are never done. We have a joke about how if you want it to turn out nice you have to do it twice.

Jr 06-24-2013 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 488931)
It scares me Dave. I am becoming worse than Todd. I even have black nitrile gloves that I put on to remove and change parts now. Even worse is the fact that I know have more springs and sway bars than Ron.

Basically, I can't overcome the push in the Camaro to the point that I'm happy. It is plenty fast, don't get me wrong. I've come in second fastest behind Maier and Hobaugh at the last two SoCal Challenge events, but the car isn't easy to drive. It has absurd power but in order to use that power I need tune the car to be a bit tight, and I give up a lot of time on corner entry in 90 degree or tighter turns. At the end of the I just caved and bought wider fiberglass fenders so that I can run a 295 or 315 front tire. Now I have to repaint half the car because Dick and the BOS boys don't want some ****ty looking purple car with their name on it rolling up to SEMA with unpainted black gelcoat fenders.

Matt,
Did the Bos guys want you to go fiberglass? I assume you would have a cleaner look with reshaping new metal re-pops... I'm sure it will look good either way.

Matt@BOS 06-24-2013 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DJW32 (Post 488993)
Matt,
Did the Bos guys want you to go fiberglass? I assume you would have a cleaner look with reshaping new metal re-pops... I'm sure it will look good either way.

I actually bought the widened fenders last Monday morning before going in to the shop, so I didn't tell any of them. :lol: I bought the Anvil ones which are widened about 1.25" I think. I might trim the inside lip up a little more if possible to get 1.5" of total increased clearance. Anvil always makes a pretty good fitting part, usually better than repop sheet metal. Fixing and modifying repop metal might yield the best looking end result, since composites with heat and stress seem prone to "moving" a little bit. However, the sheer amount of time involved in fabricating metal fenders was a big deterrent. For my intended purpose for the car, shedding some weight, (probably 40-50lbs) was also a plus. The BOS paint crew will get them looking nice, and I think they will probably stay looking nice since we're not working with old or repaired fiberglass.

Matt

James OLC 06-24-2013 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 488976)
Reasonable idea, yes. I suppose even the cost is reasonable. Like James Shipka once said though, its our ideas that get expensive. I want to see how the parts fit, and how closely we can match the paint after having to switch to water based. If both are acceptably close for something that isn't a show car, then I'd prefer to just paint the fenders. That way, in case I want to put the old ones back I don't have to repaint half the car again...

LOL - I've had a dozen boxes show up this week that support that! Great work Matt - cant wait to see it together!

Matt@BOS 06-24-2013 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by James OLC (Post 489107)
LOL - I've had a dozen boxes show up this week that support that! Great work Matt - cant wait to see it together!

You better fill us in on what you're up to sometime soon. I saw a picture of a big crate show up, but that is only one box.

FETorino 06-24-2013 09:42 PM

I thought this was a Mustang build thread :wrongforum:

How about some Fastback updates.. You have to have some grainy pictures of something.:thankyou:


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