Gas Pedal??
 

Has the Aerospace Engineer heard about the gas pedal yet?

I think its time to visit Ironworks! Will you be at the shop this Saturday?

Depends......who's buying the BBQ and beer?!?:cheers:

Maybe I'll come up and bug everyone in the shop, stay over at Rodgers swingin' singles pad(Not sure if you know this but he had Sean fab a small stage and brass pole in his living room in place of the TV! Jakes the bouncer in case anyone gets too out of hand!), and go hotlapping on sunday!:unibrow: :lol:

Can you bring the mini or whatever toy you decide to flog that day and run a few sessions with us on sunday at Speed Ventures?

John

This Weekend
 

I am available on Saturday, but I already have plans for Sunday.

I've already asked Rodger, but I need to ask you too John: Don't you ever rest?

Well Rodger is all registered for Sunday. I will be at the shop Saturday attempting to install my torque arm in car #1 of the Fuentes Autosales Race team. The rollcage is currently under constuction as we speak.

Let me know Eric I will be here. John you can crash if you need, but Jake says he gets first pick on which couch.

Rodger

REST? Is that some sort of Swahili word? Rodger do you know what he is talking about?

Ben Franklin said it best when someone asked him the same question!

"I have plenty of time to rest when I am dead!"

Hey Rodger! Mr. Fuentes said that if we win we get a free side of Guacomole!

BTW I know what your up to with all that torque arm and chrome moly cage business!:mad: :lol:

Rodger I haven't registered for the event yet! Do you think that will pose a problem? You know how my schedule is!:rolleyes: I don't want to register and then have something come up!

John

you mean you don't want to come up here saturday and see the 4130 cage with the Fikse wheels and torque arm and try to keep up with Fuentes#1.

I understand

Rodger

WHAT??? :wow: You got Fikse wheels too? YOU SUCK!!!!:mad: ;) :lol:

Are my driving skills really that much of a threat to you?:rofl:

John

Hmmm
 

As Marty recently said: "You guys crack me up!"

Driving skills.... Na I'm not scared :unibrow:

Drifting skills.......:willy: Look out in turn one for fuentes auto sales stunt driver......VIVE JUAN

Wow I just used my first smiley faces.

I have a set of 18" american racing wheels for sale now. Rodger ordered some new kicks for da whip today. I'm calling BFG for some R1"s.

I also go word that my magnesium manifold ships tommorrow also. I think your gust of good luck came my way, Some customers finally paid their bills.

DAMN!!! I better get busy digging into those boxes!!!:geezer:

John

so how much you think it will cost to make and ship one of these to my new garage.

WOOHOO!!!:woot: :cheers: :fluffy: :clap: :theresa:

The party is ON!!!!! (I'll bring the dancers!)

John

Ok guys its not fair.
I think that only three of us know the "Fuents" racing joke.
Maybe some pictures would clue in the rest of the world.
I don't think I was the first person to point out the 'Fuents' but the rest of the board needs some pictures. Let every one in on the joke. Or I'll speak up about a very stock, ac on, automatic, stock tires, V6,...


Mick

LOL!!!!:lol:

Sorry I wasn't able to make the drags! Rodger told me you guys had a real good time! ARe y ou going to make it over this way any time soon? Since I had to leave I guess I'm buying beers!:cheers:

John

You know mic if you keep it up we won't let you in on our next joke. We will explain tommorrow after track day with pictures.

Rodger

Guys! BFG are THE shoes that your car needs to be wearing when your cruising your favorite show or slaloming through your favorite canyon! Even before the sponsorship I ran only BFG on my cars so to have them come aboard is a special treat for me!
Thanks Again BFG for your support on this project! Rodger and I look forward to working on this and many future projects!

John

now that's cool - really cool

Can't wait to start burning up sets of tires "testing and tuning" at the track! BUHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!:D

John

Funny i can't to burn up my BFG on my little mini-truck

Hey All!

Sorry for not having posted in a while but we've mostly been waiting on parts like *cough,cough* the gas tank from Ricks Hot Rod Shop(Man, that thing is taking FOREVER! Too bad since we have a photo shoot for a certain magazine but it won't make it in time!) and the R & P from Woodward. We've been told that both should be arriving sometime this week. Sean has been working on the gaps of the car to get it ready for paint so nothing really new as far as fab. Some of the stuff that HAS come in:

Carbon Fiber Drive Shaft. All the stuff behind it on the rack is the Fast/Comp Cams stuff they sent us for the fuel system!
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John,

I can give you some advice from personal experience. I was involved in a fire when I raced stock cars. A right side ball joint broke while I was leading the race. I hit the wall in turn one at about 80+. The impact broke the right front wheel off which in turn pulled the braided fuel line out of the fuel pump. As the car slid along the wall it pulled the wheel back through the car ripping the oil cooler off and tearing the body off the passenger side. Now the interesting part. Because the engine continued to run until the bowl was empty, it kept pumping gas and oil all over the headers. It created an inferno instantly. Since the body work including the firewall was torn open the fire tunneled straight into the cockpit. Luckily I had a Halon system in the car. It was a 5# bottle plumbed to cover me from head to toe. I hit the button and the fire was instantly out. (didn't have temp. triggers at the time) I climbed out of the car before it stopped rolling and without taking the window net down. Thats right the net was melted out of the window. That's how quick it gets really hot. I also had a triple layer fire suit, double layer gloves and nomex shoes. I did get some 2nd degree burns on my face because I had my visor cracked. It was about 90 degrees that night. I can say that the Halon system save my life. I have no experience with FE-36, but Halon does work very well. As for triggering, put the temp. sensing in the cockpit along with a push/pull. If I would have been knocked out, I might be dead. If you want something on the engine, make it seperate. When you set Halon off you can't breathe, that wouldn't be fun if you just have an engine fire. I'm not sure if the temp. trigger would be good under the hood depending on the trigger temp. I'm thinking push pull would do it. Anyway, sorry for the book but I am a firm believer in this equipment to say the least. Hopefully this helps.

Later,

Chad!

Your little "book" will, more than likely, save my life someday so in the name of safety RAMBLE ON! PLEASE!!!:yes: :cool:

Then Halon it is! So you like the separate systems idea? I like the Auto-Temp sense in the cockpit idea. Didn't think about the getting knocked out part. Good suggestion although I'm not sure if Safecraft makes a bottle head with both push/pull and temp. I'll have to call them. The Auto-Temp sensors in the engine bay come in different temperature settings so I can have it go off at whatever temperature fire detection and suppression dictates. One of the reasons I'm thinking Auto-Temp sensors in the engine bay is sometimes when your engine catches fire you don't notice it in those first critical seconds. I think it would be better to have the system go off and suppress it before it really gets out of hand! Your thoughts?

Thanks for your post!:thumbsup:

John

John,

First, after what I went through I hope I can help anyone stay safe in that situation. Also, I'm not saying FE-36 is worse than Halon. I just have no experience with it. The reason I say 2 seperate set-ups is that if you only have an engine fire, you don't want it going off in the cock-pit. Halon displaces all the oxygen not to mention it can slightly burn you from the cold if it hits bare skin right out of the nozzle. My crew guy accidentally discharged my system in line-up one night (oops). It took my breathe away quick. Here is how I would set-up the system.

1- 2.5 to 5# bottle for the drivers compartment. 2 nozzle for each seat. 1 pointing at feet and one at chest. Use an auto temp. trigger as primary. If they have a button to add then great.

1- 5# bottle for engine and fuel tank. 2 nozzles in engine compartment on near the firewall pointing toward the engine. This creates a barrier between you and a fire. put 1 nozzle pointing at the fuel tank between the drivers compartment and the tank. Again this is to create a barrier. Use a push/pull to trigger.

JMO. I give you alot of credit, most people wouldn't even think of this. I was amazed when I was racing. Guys would spend thousands on trick parts to go fast. Then they would buy a $79 fire suit and a $79 helmet and say they can't afford anything else. I had $2000 worth of gear I wore before you look at the fire system, fuel cell etc. I am able to write this because of it.

Your building one of the coolest cars I have ever seen and still have the right priorities. :thumbsup:

PS. I have the fire on tape. If I can find it I'll try to load it and post it.

Later.

GREAT suggestions! Will definitely keep these in mind on setup of the system!

I have a question regarding bottle placement. I was thinking of mounting both bottles on each side of the trunk but after your nozzle placement suggestion of one pointing at the gas tank I'm wondering if the trunk is not such a good place to put them. Do you think it would get hot enough to affect the performance of the system if the gas tank caught fire? Maybe it would be best to put the bottles under the rear seats?

John

I think it woould depend on the configuration. If the tank is going to be seperated from the trunk by the trunk floor, then putting them in the trunk may be OK. If the tank is exposed in the trunk then I would put them under the seat. Now that I am thinking about this, the bottle with the auto temp. trigger may have to be in the driver's compartment. The new bottle I have with the auto temp valve on it is just that. The Valve has the "sensor" built into it so it would have to be in the drivers compartment. In fact under the backseat may be to far from you and insulated to much. Can you fit a 2.5# under the dash or in a console if your running one? Sorry to throw a wrench in the works. Isn't that always the way, try to stuff 10# in a 5# bag! I'm sure you'll work it out.

Do you think 2.5 would be enough? What are the dimensions of a 5 lb bottle? If it's small enough I might be able to fit it under the dash. I don't think there'll be enough room under the console! I wonder of they make a temp sensor extension that you could run out to length?

John

I guess thhat depends n how fast you can get out of the car and the size of the fire. The 5# worked great for me. I can say I don't think I would want to try to hold my breath for a 10# bottle to go in the drivers compartment. I can check the dimensions of my 5# bottle this week. It is over at my dad's shop. I'm guessing 4-5" in diameter and 14-16" long.

Why not do 2 2.5 lbs under the dash, 1 for each front seat, and a 5 lb for the engine compartment.

Man I hope by the time we start cutting up the Camaro Chris will have hinges for the 2nd Gen Camaro's. Because those are some nice looking hinges.

ps - thanks for the Kudo's on the hood pins. They are an awesome piece and yep there also going on the Camaro.

The kind folks at Buckaroo Communications gave the '66 a page of ink!

Thanks Steve Anderson and Josh Mishler for considering the car worthy! Thanks for making it happen Rodger!

John

Amazing project just love the work thats been done to this car, really like the pics with the orange with the black ss stripes L O V E L Y :bow:
"I need to start earning more money" :willy:

Chipping away!:D

Mocking up the Woodward Rack!

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Mocking up the Dry Sump!

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John

Hay what kind of wood did you guys use to hold up that steering servo valve? It looks like Pine.

Yeah but it's a special, high tech pine made especially for holding up steering servo valves!

John

Will you guys be clear urethaning it or maybe some hand rubbed oil? This car can not only be on Rides, but New Yankee Workshop as well! Nice!:rofl:

Looking good John. Keep the pics coming. :cheers:

LOL!!! Good Idea! Maybe I'll get Rodger and the crew to make some cabinets in the trunk!:lol:

John

John, your project is really coming along, thanks for the updates.
The curve fan shroud is a nice touch. What fan are you running?

To go back to the fire system, I am not sure if this is pertinent to your setup but what we did is put them (the bottles) on their sides so they will go off if the car is upside down, and also lay them pointed in different direction so that if the car is on its side then at least on bottle will go off.

Oh and by the way very cool car…

Thanks!

We are quickly running out of room so I think we may run the bottle or bottles in the trunk and plumb some line to the respective areas that we feel we will need the stream to be. Either that or I may put them under the seats!
The underdash compartment is filling up quick so we need to try and find another location for the bottles!

John

I was wondering who that new guy at the shop working on my car was!:wow: :lol:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...heshopcopy.jpg

John