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Nativefx 12-01-2014 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Stovebolter (Post 583611)
I mounted my tires on the wheels, placed them in the wheel wells, dropped the car to ride height and measured between the wheels. That's the same suggestion others on here gave me. And it worked out for me. It will tell you what you need for distance wheel mount to wheel mount. BTW....you should have a little extra room with the 325s and a mini tub compared to my set up.

Yeah, I understood the measuring for WMS to WMS. i was just wondering how much space you left between the tire sidewall and the outer fender? Did you leave more space between the inner fender and tire sidewall, or did you just center the tire and leave equal distance on each side? I'm hoping with the 325 I do have a little more room as I really hope i don't have any rubbing issues.

Payton King 12-01-2014 12:31 PM

As long as your TA is and I assume it is 6 to 8 inches at the front at ride height, your wheel hop is probably coming from shock dampening and spring rate if I were to guess.

Payton King 12-01-2014 12:32 PM

Where is your watts piviot in relationship to axle centerline?

Stovebolter 12-02-2014 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Nativefx (Post 583693)
Yeah, I understood the measuring for WMS to WMS. i was just wondering how much space you left between the tire sidewall and the outer fender? Did you leave more space between the inner fender and tire sidewall, or did you just center the tire and leave equal distance on each side? I'm hoping with the 325 I do have a little more room as I really hope i don't have any rubbing issues.

I centered the tire and ended up with roughly a 1/4" of clearance on both sides of the tires......inside and outside.

Stovebolter 12-02-2014 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Payton King (Post 583718)
Where is your watts piviot in relationship to axle centerline?

I'll have to check it again but if memory serves me correct, it is just above axle center line. I have air springs.....I could move the mount points up or down but I'd sacrafice travel up or down. I could slow up my rebound and leave my compression where it is. That makes sense. That should counteract the hop. I'll try it.

Thanks again Payton.

Payton King 12-02-2014 09:37 AM

With it above center line you have raised the roll center and loosened the rear. The lower you go the more bite you will have in the rear. Try an inch or 2 below axle centerline. Is your watts fixed or adjustable? I assume your rear trailing arms are level at ride height

Stovebolter 12-02-2014 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Payton King (Post 583851)
With it above center line you have raised the roll center and loosened the rear. The lower you go the more bite you will have in the rear. Try an inch or 2 below axle centerline. Is your watts fixed or adjustable? I assume your rear trailing arms are level at ride height

Yes, trailing arms are adjustable at rear mount....but level at ride height at this time. I may be wrong on the front mounting point. I remember you gave me roughly what yours was set at, and I added 2"s of adjustment in 1" increments both ways and took in consideration the axle centerline. I bet it's below. That would make better sense. I'll check it when I can get to the shop.

And Watts Link has a lot of adjustment.

Thanks.

Payton King 12-03-2014 06:11 AM

I was not speaking about the front mount. I would guess it is 6 to 8 inches from the ground at ride height. I am speaking of the watts pivot in relation to your axle centerline at ride height. The lower the pivot the more bite you will have up to a point. I would start it at or 1 inch below axle centerline and start messing with the shocks.

Increasing the rebound valving like you stated earlier would help as well.

Stovebolter 12-04-2014 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Payton King (Post 584002)
I was not speaking about the front mount. I would guess it is 6 to 8 inches from the ground at ride height. I am speaking of the watts pivot in relation to your axle centerline at ride height. The lower the pivot the more bite you will have up to a point. I would start it at or 1 inch below axle centerline and start messing with the shocks.

Increasing the rebound valving like you stated earlier would help as well.

Lol. I over complicate things often. Yes...the front mount is about 5.5" from ground. At this time the Watts link pivot point is centered with relation to axle center line. I'll try raising it an inch and see what I get with a little more dampening on rebound. Man these TQ shocks are cool. Reminds me of my days competing in the Hare Scrambles via woods MX. Same adjustments available.

Stovebolter 12-04-2014 08:05 AM

Tell me it isn't so...are we going to lose Heartland to the city of Topeka for not paying their bills? I hope they keep it open. If not that puts my closest track with Elkhart. Frustrated.


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