Here is where the pissing starts....
 

You know this thread was going along nicely. People inquiring about information and actually getting some.

Then you have a few people that have to bash other people's decisions on what they need or don't need and how they are or are not going to use it. I think this topic has been covered before. It is the individual's project and he can do with it what he/she wills. That is why people have hobbies. I could make the same argument for people who play golf buying a $500 driver that can't hit the ball 200 yards...or the couple that by the 10,000 sq ft home with no kids.

Live you own life and build your own projects. I have no problem with different opinons on suspension design and good discussions about it help everyone, but I draw the line when you do not know the person or people and tell them they don;t need something because they will not drive the vehicle the way YOU seem fit.

I am not getting on here saying you suck because you did the G- mod and are running an iron headed 283, so don't tell me the same if I choose to go a different route. To me it is about the information, speaking/typing to others with similar interests, watching other's projects come together and making friends with people I would not otherwise meet.

Well Yody isn't exactly new around here.. lol.

But he is right to some extent.. buying high end parts is as much about "bragging rights" and "that warm fuzzy feeling" as it is about performance.

Still, Why does anyone give a rats backside how other people spend their money.. Back to the Rolex analogy.. If you can afford the best then buy the best and whether you drive the piss out of it or tow it on a trailer really isn't anyones concern.

It's like saying someone is and idiot for buying a Corvette and never taking it to the track.

Anyways, this whole thought process is old and frankly worn out..

It's always funny how the tire kickers just can't seem to resist bashing prices and parts. Jeleousy runs rampant.

Wrong wrong wrong. There are plenty of people on this site that WILL push their cars to the limits. I'm one of them. I will notice a difference in parts and subframe design by just hard performance driving. Stop generalizing.

Exactly.

Yeah probably the same people who put a set of torque thrusts on a totally stock camaro and call it a pro tourer...

I see that on e-bay all day long.

First off nicely put Payton! To each there own.

Secondly, I couldn't agree more with what's said above. I'm fairly new to the custom car world, but in the past I've owned high performance boats and bikes. Both of which I've pushed to the limits. I've put few laps on a bike at the track, and trust me, from good tires to aftermaket stabilizers, it makes a difference. Same goes with boats, it's amazing what a Lathem steering system will do.

Lastly, thanks to all who have provided technical info.


-D

:wow: No way. Ya think ??

I guess it has been that long, since I have really read into whom it might be. He's been gone long enough, that I have become complacent and it actually makes sense now.

Wow. I just liked it because I thought it was a ballsy comment to be made around these parts..... considering that there are plenty of cats here that actively thrash their rides on the blacktop and at track days.

I was at wayne dues shop this weekend. He is working on a new subframe that will allow him to produce them at a faster rate and be more cost effective, so we may see his price for a new subframe drop a bit. Also he is working on producing the frame that is in Scotts car for production as another option.

I think the new DSE subframe is cool but I really like the rugged look of the tubular frame with the welds. If 2 camaros are at a car show and they both have there hoods open, one with the DSE frame and a Wayne Due frame, the one with the DSE frame might get looked at as a stock one.