Wow awesome stuff This is going to be a sweet ride!

Thanks! We sure hope so!! :yes:

that speed tech stuff looks awesome this car is gonna be one awesome ride :thumbsup:

:woot: he chose my name!!! :lol:

I was liking redemption also.. but it doesn't REALLY fit since the guy that f'd it up isn't redeeming anything.

Wow... keep raking in the parts and we will have to make you an honarary Editor.. lol

Nice Subframe.. and nice to see so many people chipping in to help.

And Karma works both ways. Tony is getting the good stuff he has coming to him, and Mr Race Dudz has the bad stuff coming his way, if it hasn't already arrived....

Its nice to see you pick this subframe. Ive been on the fence with it. Ive had PMs saying dont buy the Speedtech because its crap. I know this is a very nice build so Im now off the fence.

I saw it at SEMA and it certainly looked nice.

It's a very nice subframe and a great choice. Speed Tech really wanted to fill the gap between stock and hi-dollar subframes. I think they nailed it with their quality and well thought out frame/suspension.

im not sure if they truley think its crap cause thats not the case at all... its a true quality piece. its just that is doesent have any geometry gain like the other SF's... and everyone seems to be on such a kick that you must have the BEST suspension setup period! wether your just gonna drive the car on the streets and to shows or full aout race the car every weekend.:rolleyes:
if i recall you said you really had no intensions of racing the car anyways in which why bother spend the extra money (unless its dispensible for you) on a more expensive SF. right?
i personally felt that the stock was more than capable for your need but you sold it already lol

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AJ, the frame does have the G-Mod option built into it...but I will be using the stock UCA location with the tall AFX spindle. It weighs less than a stock frame, and allows for a wider wheel/tire package...and uses a Unisteer Rack. Hopefuly Blake chimes in with more info.

This setup will work great for my needs and probably for many others here as well.

It do'nt look like crap to me ! The build quality looks awsome!! I had a few guy's pm'd me when I was buying my DSE sub ''ITS JUNK, OVER RATED , WASTE OF MONEY ,LEAVE IT STOCK BETTER THAN DSE???" When I sent them a pm asking what they had or send me pics of there stuff NO ONE replied!!!:rolleyes: Just talk to the guy's that own the stuff to get your opinions
Mario

Looks like it is coming together nicely Anthony!:thumbsup:

I heard the same crap and I didn't listen:D Have the DSE frame in my car and it is the best thing since sliced bread. I have seen the speedtech and it's a quality piece that fits a market that is needed. I like the look of it compared to other fabricated frames plus you can use your trick control arms you already own. I think the stock sub is ugly, but that's me.

Yep, the internet is full of "experts" with no experience, but lots of opinions.. lol

LOL! Pretty funny stuff! I am so happy we have multiple products!

As for the quality of the Speedtech Subframe, We have it in EmptyNest and I am very impressed with it. I had my choice of subframes, I wanted to try the Speedtech in one of our own cars and I am happy I did. As for performance, It has done pretty damn good.

Here is a little video of the first and only pass I made at Run Through The Hills. Now keep in mind I had not walked the coarse (I got there real late, Hungover, Bill was pissed!). So being my first lap (only lap) I am being fairly conservitive, and still ran a 38.3, which was better then most first runs (minus pros). Listen to it, You don't even here tire scuffing except when I overdrive it into the corners on the second lap. She is a bit soft of the shock settings. No tuning, Nothing, just as I drove it in off the street. Long story short I am not even close to the edge yet.The score boards are posted at Pro Touring. Almost every combination was there. Other then the Pros I was right there with all the other cars that had 3 and 4 shots at the track. And Frank is no autocross driver!

Now back to Tony's thread.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...h_MOV01020.jpg

Are those PMs from key board heros that have no real experiences? Consider the source. Are those PMs from manufacturers of competing products? Consider the source! Are those PMs coming from un happy Speedtech subframe customers (not likely)? Consider the source!

This may be a stupid question, but I'll ask anyway. What is the difference between stock, Speedtech, and the high end subframes? If the geometry on the speedtech subframe is the same as stock, then what would be the benefit of using it:question:

I agree Jay.
Now for someone like me, that is just going to go to car shows and maybe the occasional cruise, this sub frame would be great!!!:thumbsup:
If they were an inferior product, I'm sure we would heard about it by now. (And I haven't heard any complaints.):thumbsup:

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Yes one is a shop the other is not. No biggie I found out what I need to know so Ill be ordering soon!

no stupid questions. the differance is
will fit up to a 20x10" wide wheel and a 285 tire.at a lowered ride height
lighter weight.
Gmod built in
can use other tubular arms ( if you desire) we prefer you order the hi clearance arms
air ride is a bolt in
will fit BB SB or LS
big 1.25" solid sway bar for use with hi clearance arms
also fits any after market sway bar if not using the hi clearance arms.
will fit any trans
we have headers that fit with the rack and pinion steering
as for the high end subs
they are hi end, there really good, their more expensive.
our sub concept was never to go head to head with DSE AME, it is a option for the guys who want to use aftermarket camaro components instead of mustang II parts. having said that all the testing we have done, the car handles awesome. Frank has beat his up pretty good and is happy with the performance.

Thanks for answering my question, Blake. :thumbsup:

I can't quite tell from the pictures but what is the bushing material in the control arms? I sure hope it's a Delrin bushing and not poly........other wise looks freakin' awesome.


Is it getting powder coated or painted?

yes 100% Porosity free Acetrol delrin, the machining on them is done hi speed and more than one person has mistaken them, as most delrin is not machined as well.

Thanks for jumping in and answering the questions Blake! :thumbsup:

Frank, killer vid! I love seeing these cars in motion!! It's good to hear that after a whole season you still like the Speedtech frame/suspension!

Whats this? A week with no updates?!:willy:

This week we got Tony's wheels, brakes, and glass kit.Waiting on few more parts and we should have everything to rock and roll

The pics have halted and the crowd is growing restless. :D

Yeah what he said! :D

VERY NICE YES!!!!:bow:

pete any updates?

X3:willy:

Pete's going to Florida ! :willy: No time for these projects...:lol:

I figured the best vacation I can have is send the wifes away and we stay home :thumbsup: So wifes are going, see what nice husbands we are to send them away while we just stay home ;)










:woot:

Your a good man !:lol:

We have been waiting on some stuff to come threw. So here's the plan with Tony's car. We have all these new parts for KARMA by the people on Lat-G to help out KARMA.
We are going to start with some tech for Camaro Performers since they have been a big part of this.It's going to cover full quarter install, power windows, glass install, front sub frame line up with front sheet metal,and complete prep and paint tech.
So we are going to have to work on a couple different schedules. We should have the quarters and the rest of the parts by the end of next week.
Then we will start project KRAMA

NICE!!!! Can't wait.
Tony's gonna be sikked!!!!:thumbsup: :cheers:

I was looking forward to an article on how to install a LS9 twin Turbo.:woot: