Wow I respect your level of commitment looks great and its a home build look out your car is looking sharp

I am not building a stereo on wheels .... I may do a radio delete and let the engine sing! I will use the 2nd skin on the underside and the trunk and their Firewall product for heat dissipation on the the firewall.

:thankyou: I do appreciate the comment, I hope people can learn from my thread as I have from many threads in this forum .... good people fer sure!

hey uncle mike! Rob from ak here.

great build thus Far. glad to see I'm not the only car nut to post the life of my car/trucks facelifts on the internet!

I'm putting an extensive system in my car:)

Hey Rob .... yeah there are a lot of facelifting going on here, just mine is a whole body lift.:thankyou:

I am just not an audio enthusiast .... how much does all that weight?

So, my birthday present to myself came today .... Chassisworks mini tubs with close out panels. I'm pretty happy, nice quality and everything is stamp with a part # .... instructions are one page, put em in the car :headscratch:

Pictures will follow ... maybe this weekend I can get on em, the roof can wait, this is too cool to let sit idle.

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/4462/1304252072.jpg
Birthday present for the Camaro from me!

Thanks for looking ....

I wasn't even aware that Chassisworks made tub kits. Having those prefab closeout panels will definitely save a lot of time.

I think the system I have put together weighs in around 135# including the wiring. Not everyone is into audio like myself, I understand that. We all have different goals for our cars. I come from a musician background, so music is a huge part of who I am. I don't play in any bands anymore, but still like to have a nice system. This is the first audio system I have done in nearly 10 years, so I'm anxious to get it and the damn car done!

What color are you planning to do on your car or have you decided on that yet?

that sure is a nice kit with the closeout panels,sure will save time

Not saving time!
 

What color? I keep changing my mind :confused59:

[QUOTE=tubbed69;477172]that sure is a nice kit with the closeout panels,sure will save time[/QUOTE]

That is what I thought .... and then I got to cutting and stopped to check where these close out panels were gonna fit, I think they sent me a staggered shock close out :bang: :bang: instead of same side shocks.

Take a look and see, I have not done this before, but I'm sure that piece is not for a 67 Camaro.

http://imageshack.us/a/img21/7236/1304262077.jpg
That's a big hole!
http://imageshack.us/a/img402/4442/1304262076.jpg
This is not gonna fit here :hairpullout:
http://imageshack.us/a/img41/9109/1304262080.jpg
This is the shock tower in the front!

Any comments or pixs of 67 Camaro close out panels would be appreciated.

I still have more cutting to do so not all is lost ... more than enough to keep me busy this weekend.

Thanks for lookin ...

Those are indeed 68-9 closeout panels. You'll either have to come up with our own on the drivers side or check to see if they sell a panel and will swap for the 67. DSE's tubs were for 68-9 only and I had to add a strip to the tub to fill the hole they left due to the staggered shock

just as Makoshark said they are for a 68-69,hopefully they can trade it out for one for a 67

Does Chassisworks make a kit specific to the 67? I know that DSE doesn't make a kit specific to the 67.

Does not fit 67's!
 

Just got off the phone with Chassisworks and there is NO specific kit for the 67 Camaro ... that would have been nice to know before I ordered the kit w/ close outs that I don't need.

The rep on the phone said I was the only one to report that it didn't fit 67 Camaro's .....uhhhh?

The last sales rep that tried to pull that BS on me got ripped. I get so sick and tired of hearing these reps say that I'm the only one to ever report such an issue. Nonetheless, you can still use the kit. You will just have to modify the one closeout for that side and add a small strip of metal to the tub. You can look back through my thread and see where I did all that.

Can you copy the one from the other side, or is it different?

I know I'm not the only one to work on a 67 Camaro, right? I'll look thru your thread.

I think I can copy the other side, just don't want to use the close outs now cuz then I can't return them .... cuz they charge you extra for the stamped close outs.

Now I'm pissed
 

What the Halibut? Really ... Chassisworks can't even get a mini tub correct:hairpullout:

Take a look and see for yourself, (sorry for the really big pixs) I marked at 2" and folded over @ 2.75" and had to cut up over the shock tower and floor pan at 2.75" (too many layers to fold and the rail in way).

http://imageshack.us/a/img197/8489/1304282082.JPG
Something doesn't look right!
http://imageshack.us/a/img853/7441/1304282089.jpg
Can you see the 2" mark and where I bent the flange @ 2.75!
http://imageshack.us/a/img825/631/1304282085.jpg
This is the measurement I took BEFORE 9.25 + 2.75 = 12 RIGHT?
http://imageshack.us/a/img14/8016/1304282087.jpg
All is clamped right!

I measured the pass side and it's the same ... not gonna be good!

If the is a Chassisworks rep reading this I would like some answers .... please reply.

Should have just ordered from DSE :hairpullout:

that really sucks,sounded great having a kit with closeout patterns,I did not see the price of the Chassisworks but DSE parts are expensive but have great quality

Sorry to hear this.

Yeah it SUCKS .... the price is DSE plus $50.00 for the closeouts + shipping. I have to make my own close out panel anyway - nothing for a 67 Camaro!


Thanks ... I'm working w/ Chassisworks to see what went wrong with the tubs .....I'm the first one to say something? We'll see how the customer service rates :popcorn2:, meantime I don't have mini tubs installed :bang:

Mini Update
 

Chris Alston Sr. of Chassisworks called today to figure out my mini tub issue... that was cool and excellent customer service.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

We decided to wait til my outer wheel houses come to see where everything lines up with my car, if I want to return them he's OK with that,
or we can see about making them work. He hadn't worked on a non-staggered shock Camaro and didn't know about the closeouts
not fitting .... does now!

Chris also offered to make my closeouts for my Camaro if I send him a scanned jpg of what I need.... A+++++ rating from me.

So,I'll wait til my outer wheel houses come in and go from there, back on to the roof issues.
..:popcorn2:

Oh yeah, it is snowing again (10" so far) on the first day of May, should be upwards of 50 by the weekend, that's good enough to work in the garage.

Sonar you can keep the snow wherever you are,but glad to see some good customer service AAA+++

Glad to hear this, you can't ask for more. Maybe more sun shine!!

Last night Chris Sr. and Michael, aka Sonar Chief, had a chance to talk on the phone about the issues that Michael is experiencing with his mini-tub install. We are very thankful for his help and prompt replies to our questions. The situation boils down to three main points.

1-Frame Rail Closeouts: Michael’s Camaro is a ’67 with non-staggered shocks. The rails are different from the staggered shock cars. This will most likely require one new frame rail cutout to be made which can be used on both side. Michael is going to send us a template and we will send him the new pieces in laser-cut steel. They will also be added to future kits. NOTE TO EXISTING CUSTOMERS: If you have a ’67 with non-stagger shocks, call me at Ext 247 and I will ship you a pair of the new pieces for free as soon as they are available.

2-Are The CAC Tubs actually 2-3/4” Wider Than Stock? Yes, they are. We measured our inventory on hand and Michael measured the ones he has in his possession. They were compared to dimensions taken from stock inners for ‘67-‘69 and everything matched up as it should.

3-Do They Fit His Car? Because Michael’s car does not have the outer wheelhouse this is a difficult question to answer. It’s impossible to say for sure whether the outside edge of the tub is being correctly located. His car has been almost completely re-bodied but there is a possibility the factory wheelhouse support is bent. As the outer wheelhouses are on backorder from his supplier, we can’t determine this for sure yet. However, we asked Michael to measure the amount of floor remaining between the tubs and that measurement is correct. Therefore all indicators point to yes, they will fit.

Again, I want to thank Michael for being available and understanding so we can help him get this sorted out quickly and to everyone’s satisfaction. I encourage everyone to make us your first call when you have a question about any of our products. We have free tech help available from 8-5 M-F and 8-1 on Saturdays. That’s ‘Sunny California’ time, of course. If you can’t get through, leave us a message and we will get back to you ASAP.

~Carl

Carl ... very well stated, thank you!

:thankyou: That's why Chris has his name on the building but I'm the guy on the forums.

Carl glad to see you guys stepping up to help. :thumbsup:

Update 5/6
 

Not much going on here except that my door panels from AMD are here and they resemble 67 Camaro door panels that fit correctly. The AMD rep measured the skin before he brought them over (he knew better to bring me another set of skins that didn't fit) and the frames slipped right in .... KOOL!

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/75/hi7u.jpg
Door skins that fit, yeah! Yes that is the last of the SNOW..... hopefully:thumbsup:

Focusing my attention on my STATS 512 class .... finals next week, can't wait to really work on my car after this class.

Thanks for looking ....

Update 6/20
 

Wow where does time go? So I thought I'd update those interested on my findings with the mini tubs.
As promised to Chris Alson Sr. I would wait til I received the AMD outer wheel houses to make a final go no/go on the mini tubs. The AMD outer wheel houses came in and they actually fit quite well, (finally something I don't have to beat on to get them to fit) they followed the body flange up and over the tubs and fit nice to the quarter panels .... no fuss involved. With the mini tubs installed on my car the drivers side did not follow the same contour/flange that the outer wheel houses did, the passenger side was closer but not close enough. So I made the decision to send them back and work with Chris on getting the closeouts made for their 67 Camaro mini tub kits.

http://imageshack.us/a/img35/8614/bynk.jpg
Template for the closeouts!

These pictures show the contour/flange with the AMD outer wheel houses in, nice fitting pieces.
http://imageshack.us/a/img825/9426/mi4p.jpg
Pass side view from trunk.
http://imageshack.us/a/img29/1294/7o30.jpg
Drivers side view from trunk.

Oh, and I got 2 gallons of Lizard skin delivered .... door skins, roof, quarters, floor, firewall and cowl. Man I better get going, more to come.

Thanks for looking.

I was just wondering the other day what you were up to.

I can't say anything about the CA tubs, because I used DSE tubs, but mine fit with no fuss. However, I was fitting them to NOS outers, so I don't know if that is where your issues are coming from.

Been busy Jeremy .... the AMD outer wheel houses fit great and I'm keeping them fer sure. I have been working on the roof panel also cuz the front corners don't exactly follow the window trim contours. :superhack: required on the roof and then I can Lizard skin the underside.

Thanks...

Glad to see you got your problems resolved and making progress.

Yes, resolved.... returned! Spoke with the DSE rep this past week and he assured me they will fit a 67 Camaro, I will order DSE mini tubs this week!

I am making progress on the roof, I thought I could get further than I did this weekend making this dang corner but this is complicated :superhack: , or I am really slow.

Anyway, the AMD roof front corners were crap, picture 1, and the roof line didn't follow the molding worth a crap .... so fix it! Easier said than done follow along with the pictures, making the roof line follow the molding and then making the corner piece in 3D.

http://imageshack.us/a/img542/5425/n4kb.jpg
AMD corner .... crap stamping!
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/290/t0bx.jpg
Working the roof line.
http://imageshack.us/a/img14/8469/xp4q.jpg
Three piece to make this dang corner PITA!!!!!
http://imageshack.us/a/img818/3517/ib9r.jpg
Clamped in place .... getting there!

Hopefully, only a couple more hours, days? Some hammer dolly work and then finish the welding ... then the OTHER SIDE!!!

Thanks for looking...

Very Nice ! I was going to suggest the trim to check for fitment. I should have known better to think you didn't already think of it... Its looking great.

With the DSE tubs, you will still have to make a filler panel to fill the void on the driver's side tub caused by the tub being made for 68-9 Camaros and not 67's. It's simple and I'm sure you will be able to handle it:gitrdun:

It sucks having to do this much fab work but my AMD corners were off but probally not that bad,I am thankful that at least there are parts available or we would not have this enjoyable and expensive hobby

Thanks Wayne, you should know I would already be on top of that ... I just wished I didn't have to open up a can of worms every time I touch something.

I am all ready for that ... as long as they fit like they say this should be a piece of cake, round two :hairpullout:

I wished they weren't this bad either ... sometimes it makes me wonder if they have ever seen a 67 Camaro, really:ohsnap:

Looks good Chief!! just read the last 10 pages, nice work,

I've been laying low, trying to get my building done then get back to the car, etc,

Michael, the new frame rail cutouts were shipped out. You should have them any day now.

Thanks Steve, it's been a journey ... get back onto that car :poke:

Got them Wednesday ... now everyone can get closeouts for their non staggered Camaro, thanks for the service and I'm glad I could be part of the solution :thumbsup:

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/7601/scwk.jpg
Wished I could cut stuff like this ... quality fer sure, Chassisworks.

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7895/tsew.jpg
This is where the closeouts go if you're wondering ... drivers side shock tower!

Update 7/20
 

Wow, where does time go? Been in the field lately and my DSE mini tubs came to the house this past week .... fit them in that night and I they were close to 2.75" wider but not exactly. Called and talked to Matt at DSE and a fellow member here and they say ya gotta push the metal around.... 1/4" at the front floor pan is alot of tension and then welding it to the flanges? The tubs fit the contour of the outer tub good, the stamping is 18 gauge and not as crisp as one would like to see .... there is a gap between outer and inner and I guess people just beat the heck outa the metal to get it close enough to weld?

Not wanting to weld a pie shape piece of metal into the wheel tub (read warp tub) I though I might kill two birds with one big stick .... straighten out the flange (thinking outside the box, don't add metal ... it's already there, the flange!) the outer wheel house is screwed in and that is my edge to remark and MY 2.75" is the inside line ..... re bend with the width/ location that I need to make up :superhack:

So, small cut lines and some hammer and dolly work she's flat .... working on the closeouts first for the reference to clamp everything first. Take a look

http://imageshack.us/a/img692/1384/1yva.jpg
Probably the only one to ever cut up a DSE tub :lostmarbles:
http://imageshack.us/a/img833/9177/e465.jpg
Took longer to jig than weld!
http://imageshack.us/a/img829/3397/nl9z.jpg
Stayed at a 90, finish the front side later!
http://imageshack.us/a/img839/3047/4j5k.jpg
These are the Chassisworks closeouts they made me!

I will stitch weld the front of the closeout and spray some of Eastwood's frame coating inside the hole there and the frame ... hopefully get that closed out tomorrow and maybe even the frame.

Call me crazy if you want .... a 2.75" mini tub should be 2.75" wider at all points and mine will be just that.


Thanks for looking .....