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GregWeld 06-20-2013 07:51 AM

I have to say --- I use the long lens VERY VERY little. Even at some sporting events it's almost too much lens. When you need it you gotta have it! But actual hours spent connected to the camera -- not much.

Sieg 06-20-2013 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 487991)
I knew you'd like the 10-22 lens -- I love the 10-24 I'd just bought. It just captures so much more... It gives a great perspective in a close up - and just captures so much more on those "big" shots.

With my cropped sensor it definitely helps, your large sensor with the 10-24 must be really good. :thumbsup:

GregWeld 06-20-2013 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 487993)
With my cropped sensor it definitely helps, your large sensor with the 10-24 must be really good. :thumbsup:



I just wished I hadn't taken the salespersons suggestion to get the Tamron lens over the Nikkor. It might be "fine" optically -- but it FEELS like a cheap lens to me. Once you've run a Nikkor or other quality lens - it's hard to go backwards. I might go up today and get the Nikkor.

GregWeld 06-20-2013 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 487995)
I just wished I hadn't taken the salespersons suggestion to get the Tamron lens over the Nikkor. It might be "fine" optically -- but it FEELS like a cheap lens to me. Once you've run a Nikkor or other quality lens - it's hard to go backwards. I might go up today and get the Nikkor.

Regarding "other brands and using them on your NIKON"




Here's what KEN ROCKWELL says about buying "off brand" or as he comes right out and says... CHEAP LENS.... LOL so politically incorrect!!


You're always on your own with off-brand lenses like Sigma. Readers tell me that their Sigma 105 Macros don't work on the D7000. Potential incompatibility with future cameras is one of the steep prices one pays for trying to save a few dollars yesterday on a cheap lens. Nikon shares nothing with its competitors about lens compatibility, so if you want to buy a Tamron or Sigma, you're gambling that it will work with tomorrow's camera. Good luck.

GregWeld 06-20-2013 08:22 AM

I'm thinking that SIEG has learned to FART before he snaps a shot... it helps!!!



http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/fart.htm

Sieg 06-20-2013 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 487992)
I have to say --- I use the long lens VERY VERY little. Even at some sporting events it's almost too much lens. When you need it you gotta have it! But actual hours spent connected to the camera -- not much.

It definitely will not be my go to lens, the Canon 18-135 f/3.5-5.6 STM should end up being the go to.

Ken Rockwell says:
Quote:

This is my favorite all-around zoom for 1.6x Canon cameras. It covers all the focal lengths I need, and it zooms and focuses like a dream.

With manual-focus override and smooth zooming, it handles better than most Canon lenses.

I'd buy one of these in an instant if I was shooting a 1.6x Canon camera, like the 7D or T4i or whatever.
http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/len...-135mm-stm.htm

The Sigma f2.8 50-150 is the best option in class for 1.6x Canon cameras and will hopefully be the go to for indoor basketball and volleyball games which I will be spending a lot of time at over the next few years with my 11 year old daughter. Capturing this period of her life somewhat justifies the investment. I can also see it being very good for motorsports action, the f2.8 aperture will let me use the 8 fps speed of my 7D. Who knows, I might even take a couple pics of the mutts with it too. :sieg:

syborg tt 06-20-2013 08:28 AM

Here are a couple pics that my wife has taken while riding in a cab in Abu Dhabi

http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...aIMG_6726a.jpg

well not this one.
http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...lIMG_6886a.jpg

http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...aIMG_7194a.jpg

http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...lIMG_6965a.jpg

http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...lIMG_7013a.jpg

syborg tt 06-20-2013 08:31 AM

http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...lIMG_7211a.jpg

http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...llIMG_7254.jpg

http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...llIMG_7274.jpg

this one is one of my favorites

http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...lIMG_6740b.jpg

I've never wanted to ride a Camel but I think I would give it a shot now.

http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...llIMG_7292.jpg

waynieZ 06-20-2013 08:36 AM

Marty I love the one you said was your favorite. Guys keep these coming They're all very interesting.

GregWeld 06-20-2013 08:40 AM

Personally --- I like the first shot Marty.... it captures the low light and a little shadow... and really fills the frame.


The camel? Not so much.... Mangy critters that spit. LOL

syborg tt 06-20-2013 08:40 AM

couple more

http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...lIMG_7347a.jpg

yes that is 24k Gold.

http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...lIMG_7364a.jpg

http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...llIMG_7375.jpg

walking on the beach

http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...lIMG_6946b.jpg

Sieg 06-20-2013 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 487999)
You're always on your own with off-brand lenses like Sigma. Readers tell me that their Sigma 105 Macros don't work on the D7000. Potential incompatibility with future cameras is one of the steep prices one pays for trying to save a few dollars yesterday on a cheap lens. Nikon shares nothing with its competitors about lens compatibility, so if you want to buy a Tamron or Sigma, you're gambling that it will work with tomorrow's camera. Good luck.

Completely understand this liability. I have a couple Tamron's that work well on my camera. Never have been very impressed with Sigma, but this based on hundreds of very positive reviews I've read from multiple sources this NEW 50-150 may be an exception. Though one retaliatory firmware upgrade by Canon could make it worthless. Sadly Canon doesn't have a decent class option for their 1.6x camera's, the zoom range on the L series f2.8 70-200 on a 1.6x camera misses the mark..........and it's twice the $$$.

http://www.desmonorthwest.com/forums...ilies/fart.gif

Sieg 06-20-2013 08:44 AM

Good stuff Marty. Talk about a target rich environment!

syborg tt 06-20-2013 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 488009)
Personally --- I like the first shot Marty.... it captures the low light and a little shadow... and really fills the frame.


The camel? Not so much.... Mangy critters that spit. LOL

Okay the spitting thing has me worried. I have yet to be spat on.

Sieg 06-20-2013 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syborg tt (Post 488014)
Okay the spitting thing has me worried. I have yet to be spat on.

You're hangin' with the wrong crowd. :mock:

GregWeld 06-20-2013 08:52 AM

I'm positive that these companies make good lens -- and at FAR less cost (the 10-24 I bought was about half!)... and for our uses are better than we are!

Really -- I also believe that the amount of hours and actual pics the average person takes -- you'd never wear them out - and you'd never really "get your money's worth" --- except that you'd have the pictures/memories. Thus I bought the TAMRON over the Nikkor lens.

I just don't like the way the lens FEELS and then start to kick myself for buying it. If I was working and spending hard earned money -- then A) - I wouldn't probably own a Nikon in the first place... and B) would buy all my lens USED rather than new.

I bought the 70-200 f2.8 telephoto lens for the express reason of going to the Monaco Grand Prix... and wanted the speed and the telephoto. My kids are grown so I'm long past the sports events.. and that's where these length lens really shine! I can guarantee you that if I had the Sigma vs the Nikkor - you'd never be able to see the difference...

syborg tt 06-20-2013 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 488013)
Good stuff Marty. Talk about a target rich environment!

I think she took 2000 pictures on that trip. The one's she took from her hotel room window in Turkey are just incredible. I will try to find those as well.

http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...lIMG_7381a.jpg


I think this was the Swarovski Crystal Chandelier with 24k Gold. At the time they were the worlds most expensive ever made. Something over 2 million each.

http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...llIMG_7465.jpg

http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...llIMG_7521.jpg

http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...lIMG_7706b.jpg

http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...llIMG_7716.jpg

THE END

http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...llIMG_7727.jpg

toy71camaro 06-20-2013 10:06 AM

Those are some great Pics!! only 2000 pictures? Hell, i'd be taking that a DAY. LOL


As far as the lens debate.. I'm kinda on the fence of "buy it right the first time".. Thus, I "went big" and got the Canon L F/2.8 70-200 (II series) as my first big lens purchase. They hold their value real well, I could sell it for almost what I paid for it. Its great with the speed and the low fstop. I havent been doing much photography as of late, after moving and dads health issues, but hope i can get back into it. Doing my cousins family tonight tho. But doubt i'll use the 70-200. More likely the 50mm. I DO want to get my hands on a good wide angle 10-35 or somewhere in that range. And get my hands on a new full frame pro body (6D?). Aw.. the wishes. lol

Curious to see how the new sigma f/1.8 18-35mm lens turns out, for $799, thats a pretty good buy if its clear.

Edit: also. If you arent sure of a lens (and if your gonna throw down some money on one), I'd highly recommend checking out borrowlenses.com. Rent the lens for a weeked to make sure your happy with it. Pretty inexpensive.

syborg tt 06-20-2013 10:21 AM

Were lucky as there is a local Camera place that let's you rent the lens 3x and if you buy it they put 80% (or something close) towards the purchase of the lens.

Quote:

Originally Posted by toy71camaro (Post 488032)
Those are some great Pics!! only 2000 pictures? Hell, i'd be taking that a DAY. LOL


As far as the lens debate.. I'm kinda on the fence of "buy it right the first time".. Thus, I "went big" and got the Canon L F/2.8 70-200 (II series) as my first big lens purchase. They hold their value real well, I could sell it for almost what I paid for it. Its great with the speed and the low fstop. I havent been doing much photography as of late, after moving and dads health issues, but hope i can get back into it. Doing my cousins family tonight tho. But doubt i'll use the 70-200. More likely the 50mm. I DO want to get my hands on a good wide angle 10-35 or somewhere in that range. And get my hands on a new full frame pro body (6D?). Aw.. the wishes. lol

Curious to see how the new sigma f/1.8 18-35mm lens turns out, for $799, thats a pretty good buy if its clear.

Edit: also. If you arent sure of a lens (and if your gonna throw down some money on one), I'd highly recommend checking out borrowlenses.com. Rent the lens for a weeked to make sure your happy with it. Pretty inexpensive.


ErikLS2 06-20-2013 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 487970)
Last night at 9:30. 1/4 second @ ISO 200 handheld resting against a post no image stabilization.

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-6...62PxB5n-XL.jpg

Sieg, I know you created this thread for unedited pics (sorry for posting the ones I did not realizing this). It may not be your thing like it is mine but if you bracketed this shot in say 3 different exposures of -2.0, 0.0, +2.0 and then merged them together with something like Photomatix software it would blow you away. Great shot as it is though and loving this thread :thumbsup:

ErikLS2 06-20-2013 10:09 PM

Can anyone recommend a decent tripod that's stable but not too heavy in the $200 range or so? My brother said "oh just get a Gitzo", but at what they cost not going to happen. Costco has a couple Dolica's that have decent reviews. Any thoughts?

Sieg 06-20-2013 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErikLS2 (Post 488225)
Sieg, I know you created this thread for unedited pics (sorry for posting the ones I did not realizing this). It may not be your thing like it is mine but if you bracketed this shot in say 3 different exposures of -2.0, 0.0, +2.0 and then merged them together with something like Photomatix software it would blow you away. Great shot as it is though and loving this thread :thumbsup:

Thanks and don't worry about posting tweaker pics :lmao: Not a problem! :thumbsup:

I did bracket that shot and most of my shots but not at that extreme range. Don't know about Photomix.........I'm finding Windows 8 isn't loved by many photo software developers........can't blame them AT ALL, I'm on the brink of switching back to Win7 so I can use my Canon software that came with the camera.

Any examples of a merged composition?

barrrf 06-21-2013 06:28 AM

I didnt know this thread existed until today. Hoping to learn some. Hoping to post some too!

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...psed7793b3.jpg

toy71camaro 06-21-2013 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErikLS2 (Post 488226)
Can anyone recommend a decent tripod that's stable but not too heavy in the $200 range or so? My brother said "oh just get a Gitzo", but at what they cost not going to happen. Costco has a couple Dolica's that have decent reviews. Any thoughts?


I've heard good things of Manfrotto tripods. They had some at my local costco a few months back for around 120-150 (i forget. as i just drooled on them) heheh.

GregWeld 06-21-2013 08:27 AM

We USED to use a remote "shutter releaser" that screwed into the "button" to keep from shaking the camera... it was a simple cable and sheath.


Now you need a (relatively) expensive wireless remote...

Sieg 06-21-2013 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 488289)
We USED to use a remote "shutter releaser" that screwed into the "button" to keep from shaking the camera... it was a simple cable and sheath.

Now you need a (relatively) expensive wireless remote...

Poor mans release is the built in self-timer.

The Canon wireless remote is $21, off-brand that looks to be identical $9.99 via Amazon Prime.

Sieg 06-21-2013 09:58 AM

Last night of the U of O Girls Basketball Camp at Matt Knight Arena.

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Other/Kid-St...MG_3078-XL.jpg

Last year my daughter couldn't get off the ground to save her soul, this year things are changing........not enough in this mismatch though. :D
http://sieg.smugmug.com/Other/Kid-St...MG_3154-XL.jpg

They brought the girls in to watch the last 4 minutes of the NBA game on the scoreboard screens and then handed out camp awards.
http://sieg.smugmug.com/Other/Kid-St..._MG_3273-L.jpg

Volleyball Coach on the wall in the outer corridor
http://sieg.smugmug.com/Other/Kid-St..._MG_3295-L.jpg

Notes:
1) This is when than 50-150 f2.8 lens would make a difference
2) That floor design in the arena plays h*ll with light meters!
3) My kid is very fortunate to capitalize on Phil Knight's generosity.

toy71camaro 06-21-2013 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 488304)
Poor mans release is the built in self-timer.

The Canon wireless remote is $21, off-brand that looks to be identical $9.99 via Amazon Prime.

If you do anything with Off camera flash, the yongnuo triggers work as remote shutter releases well (as well as off camera flash triggers). And they're cheap.. $30-40.

ErikLS2 06-21-2013 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 488289)
We USED to use a remote "shutter releaser" that screwed into the "button" to keep from shaking the camera... it was a simple cable and sheath.


Now you need a (relatively) expensive wireless remote...

No you don't, get an ML-L3 for yours. A genuine Nikon one is less than $20 (I think you can afford it :) ) or a cheap aftermarket one for much less.

ErikLS2 06-21-2013 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 488232)
Thanks and don't worry about posting tweaker pics :lmao: Not a problem! :thumbsup:

I did bracket that shot and most of my shots but not at that extreme range. Don't know about Photomix.........I'm finding Windows 8 isn't loved by many photo software developers........can't blame them AT ALL, I'm on the brink of switching back to Win7 so I can use my Canon software that came with the camera.

Any examples of a merged composition?

Check this out: http://www.hdrsoft.com/ especially the gallery, amazing and you can see all the camera settings used as well

Sieg 06-21-2013 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErikLS2 (Post 488339)
Check this out: http://www.hdrsoft.com/ especially the gallery, amazing and you can see all the camera settings used as well

WOW - Surreal. The ISO bracketing of 100/200/300 created a unique look.

The Yonguno transceivers look like the ticket, thanks. :thumbsup:

toy71camaro 06-21-2013 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 488350)
WOW - Surreal. The ISO bracketing of 100/200/300 created a unique look.

The Yonguno transceivers look like the ticket, thanks. :thumbsup:

HDR stuff is pretty slick if you got some good contrasting colors to work with (cloudy days are awesome). Looks like you got some stuff to test this weekend! hahah

I use the Yongnuo's, and have been happy with them. I got the older version, where one unit was the receiver and one was a trigger. The newer ones are both a receiver and transmitter in each one. But still, for the price, you cant beat it.

Sieg 06-21-2013 06:01 PM

:ups:

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Other/Sigma-...MG_3319-XL.jpg

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Other/Sigma-...MG_3324-XL.jpg

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Other/Sigma-...MG_3317-XL.jpg

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Other/Sigma-...MG_3326-X2.jpg
This shot was taken at 136mm zoom, 1/400 f/4 ISO 100 then cropped about 60%.

Right out of the box! Daddy likey!!

GregWeld 06-21-2013 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErikLS2 (Post 488337)
No you don't, get an ML-L3 for yours. A genuine Nikon one is less than $20 (I think you can afford it :) ) or a cheap aftermarket one for much less.



I didn't know! I ASSumed that because it would need to be "electronic" that they'd be expensive (relatively).


I never shoot that way... and only have a monopod (Manfrotto) for use with the long lens -- I want to just stabilize the lens while being able to "follow the action". Monopods work great for that.

Diognes56 06-21-2013 08:57 PM

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7385/9...e9fed782_b.jpg

My little girl is 2 today. I haven't decided on a wide angle lens yet (thanks for the suggestions btw), but I am so glad I have my 50mm f1.8!

David

Sieg 06-21-2013 09:22 PM

Great picture David! Memories are priceless with photo's like that. :thumbsup:

GregWeld 06-21-2013 10:06 PM

Great picture --- Priceless!!

GregWeld 06-21-2013 10:08 PM

While outside trying to get some photos of my new awning on "the rig".... I went in the shop and just sat the camera on an upside-down Home Depot bucket... Next thing you know I snapped this off.... NO TOUCH UP or photo anything -- this is straight out of the camera.





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...ord/file-3.jpg

Sieg 06-21-2013 10:33 PM

Scarlet's ride?

Nice to know that bucket is actually out of the trailer.........don't tell me you have more than one Homer B. :lol:

GregWeld 06-21-2013 10:42 PM

Playin' with the 10-24....


I sent this to Sieg --- and said --- The manhole cover says it all. Do you guys think there's a reason my power bill is high? LOL






http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...House/file.jpg


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