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Again.........logic applied.



Do they feel like self-imploding when they watch fact based informantion or do they hit the button on a morphine style pump filled with denialium?

If you haven't seen this you should. If you have it's worth watching again. This lady is a hero for that testimony IMO.

First, Wild Bill is the man!! LOL!!

Second, what is the story on that woman's testimony? Like when and where and what was the outcome?

On another note, I watched Batman tonight and saw quite a few parallels in Gotham City!! Not necessarily about guns, but more about government and the such. :confused59:

Here's the woman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzanna_Hupp

Should we be concerned? Do your own research and make your own opinions based on information in this video.

I would not put too much into the Litmus testing in a military reference. They ask you some f't up things to see where you are mentally and your moral standing not necessarily directive they want you to act out. A position would be determined by which direction your moral compass is in.

This seems like a media ploy.

If you are looking for warning signs they are already there. It all starts with dividing the country then what follows is registration.

The pros seem to have a game plan. The key is not to give any ideas early on.

Thanks Jimmy. Me too.

Yeah.... Don't do as I DO.... Just do as I SAY. :rolleyes:

"Probably false" I don't see that response on Snopes too often.

It's difficult to filter through all the litter flying around in the media as we know in this day and age. In my lifetime I've never seen a president as detached from the Constitution as this one. His agenda for the country is transparent at best. Those issues combined with the people he's appointed and associates with are "probably" the source of my concern and distrust. What he preaches compared what he accepts do not mesh........IMO

Lol, yeah, I like the "Probably" part. Snopes is left leaning biased outlet like other any media organization. They are not always some conclusive source of truth.

This is worth a look.

DHS buys 7000 full-auto assault rifles, calls them 'personal defense weapons'
http://www.naturalnews.com/038844_DH...documents.html

So the DHS bids to buy FULL auto rifes, they are called "personal defense". Yet the WH wants to ban all SEMI auto rifles, media called them "assault weapons"

That is some Grade A Bovine excrement right there.

Jeff-

Interesting info. When the DHS uses the term "Personal Defense Weapon" who is the threat to their person? The gradual paradigm shift in the bureaucratic mindset that I've observed over the years is our (public employee) safety first then the public...........I'd be more at ease if they displayed the mindset of my dogs.

Did anyone see Obama said that he shoots skeet? Why do people who hate guns (and that's fine) always try to make themselves appear to like them? That man has probably never held a gun let alone went skeet shooting.


We were talking about this the other day. If **** ever hit the fan would a president (even 50 years from now) give the order to protect the country by killing it's citizens.

We already have examples that federal employees will attack us. Waco anyone? But think about what happens after a natural disaster. The Guard is brought in to keep Americans away from their homes? Now they may deem it unsafe but they will keep you out. How do they do this? By force, they have the guns and the threat of detainment.

The Egyption army is killing civilians. Those are not outsiders in their Army. We don't know what the next 50 or 100 years will look like and who will be leading this country.

Dear Mr. Akes:

Thank you for taking the time to contact me. I appreciate hearing from you, and I am grateful that I have an opportunity to hear your views in the wake of this terrible tragedy.

I share your concerns about the recent tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut. My heart goes out to all those affected, especially the families that lost loved ones and the students and faculty of Sandy Hook Elementary who witnessed such unspeakable violence. No words of condolence could possibly ease the pain of families who lost cherished children; however, I hope it is some small comfort that the nation mourns with them, and we stand with them as they overcome the suffering and begin the healing process.

As part of the healing process, we need to accept the reality that we are not doing enough to protect our citizens. In the coming weeks, Congress and the White House will engage in a meaningful conversation and thoughtful debate about how to change our laws and our culture that allows violence to grow. We need to examine what can be done to prevent more tragedies like the ones that happened this year in Newtown, Connecticut, Aurora, Colorado, Oak Creek, Wisconsin, and Portland, Oregon. We have no greater responsibility than keeping our children safe, and every idea should be on the table as we discuss how to best protect our children. We can honor the memory of those who were killed in Newtown by acting to ensure that our nation is protected against such horrific tragedies in the future. Please be assured of my commitment toward that end.

Again, thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts with me. I look forward to hearing from you in the future.
My best wishes to you.

Sincerely,
HARRY REID
United States Senator


Dear Mr. Akes:



Thank you for taking the time to write to the Governor's office regarding your opinion on [access to guns; mental health services; school safety]. As Governor, I truly appreciate your correspondence as it allows me to look for better ways to serve you and the other citizens of the great State of Nevada.



The most recent tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut has brought a new focus and increased attention to many issues surrounding gun control, access to mental health services, and school safety. Our country has suffered through too many of these types of heinous crimes and unfortunately, no one can point to any single solution, which if enacted, would totally prevent such violence. As we move toward a broader public discussion on meaningful public policy which will curb or end this violence, we must consult subject matter experts on mental health, school and gun safety and explore all options, while continuing to protect Second Amendment rights and individual freedoms. I appreciate your suggestions and I will keep them in mind as we move forward to preserve the safety of our state.



Thank you again for contacting my office. I welcome information from my constituents and I truly value your input.





Best regards,




Brian Sandoval
Governor

Todd,
Same sort of basic form replies I got here in Tennessee. Sad, but what matters is that we did let them know our views, and I will be watching and remembering come election time....


Jeff-

http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/politic...01&status=true

This man has some serious strength. He lost his son last month and now is voicing a rational option to just enforcing the laws we have, and not calling for more. The video only covers part of his testimony.

"Mattioli said he believes in "simple, few gun laws" and that "we have more than enough on the books." But he said they're not being enforced properly.

Mattioli received a standing ovation."

Wonder how the Boeing test pilots feel about that one?

I agree Jeff, we made the effort instead of bitchin and moaning. :D

Sadly I've submitted enough letters related to land use and public safety issues to realize that their (senate & congress) SOP is drafting a form response letter for "our" representatives in anticipation of the retaliation.

A comment on the story..
The problem I have is when people don't bitch and moan. You did just that to your insect overlords, I mean "representatives". Good job!

Nah, my letter was just full of ideas I think will help. If they threw it in the garbage can, oh well. :relax:

100% agree with this guy.

^^ Absolutely.

yea its mental health issue for sure. maybe their shooting for the moon with the clips and assault weapons hoping when they miss at least they can hit the stars as in stronger background checks ???? that seams to be the only way to get anything done recently.

Thanks Jody - That man's logic cannot be shared enough. :thumbsup:

Glad I got rid of my Garand years ago, along with all of those evil clips.

Great post Cam :thumbsup:

I've sold most of my stuff too. Besides, those Garand's are way too heavy, crappy wood, and ya can't hit the broad side of a barn with them. :thumbsup:

. Really? Probably my favorite iron site long gun. 3 inch groups at a 100 yards. : )

I like what he says, except for one thing about 'checking up' on people who have been denied. That creates a very slippery slope when 'mental health' is subjective to a federal bureaucracy. And any sort of expanded 'mental/background' check further than what is currently being done when ALL people purchase a firearm (FFL) will be nothing short of national registry list. The NRA should be careful in supporting anything of the sort.

Lets not forget, we are told Lanza tried several times to buy firearms. The system in place did its job and denied him.

Wouldn't a Universal Background Check be basically the same thing as a National Registry?

Yes, that's what I was trying to say.

another view.

That's going to make some waves within the bureaucracy.

Here's another "outsiders" opinion that hasn't forgotten lessons of history.

I still think -- that in the end -- no laws are going to protect anyone nor prevent anyone from murdering another human. How many they murder depends on how well they plan it. But no "law" is going to prevent them.

I don't think a normal mind can possibly comprehend the criminally insane mind. WE just don't think that way.

We can't explain it -- I don't think we can stop it -- and, while we don't want to -- I think we just have to accept that from time to time bad stuff happens.

Perhaps I've said the Serenity Prayer too often... it's that last line of the first verse.... :bang:

God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

I'm starting to think that this all about getting Americans to unarm Americans.

Everyone loves to push their own agenda on someone else... tree huggers -- liberals -- the religious right -- you name it - they want everyone to be just like them. So I agree Vince -- it's more about "US vs THEM" than anything. :thumbsup: