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MtotheIKEo 09-24-2016 10:41 PM

Looking good! Do you have a part number for that steering column mount? Mine was all mangled up and I need to do something similar.

grendel 09-25-2016 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MtotheIKEo (Post 646110)
Looking good! Do you have a part number for that steering column mount? Mine was all mangled up and I need to do something similar.

I made it. Well, the big aluminum plate. The ball mount is by flaming river. Allowed us to angle the column away from the headers by placing it much lower than stock.

Goosesdad 09-26-2016 11:51 AM

Hi John....do you have any pics of the steering link going through your headers? I let the column position on the firewall be determined by the upper mount...but don't have my headers in yet. Wonder if I have a redo in my future.

grendel 09-28-2016 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Goosesdad (Post 646187)
Hi John....do you have any pics of the steering link going through your headers? I let the column position on the firewall be determined by the upper mount...but don't have my headers in yet. Wonder if I have a redo in my future.


Hi John,

It doesn't go through my headers. I am using Stainless Works "Wayne Due" headers, if we left the stock Camaro column orientation, it would hit the last tube. We were able to angle it down and away by moving the bottom lower point.

It's the lower mount that controls the angle through the front sub frame. I am using a stock upper mount, with clamps welded to it, that bolts into the stock location on the dash support. For some reason, my "bolt in" Flaming River steering column didn't have a provision for the mount. You could probably shorten up the top mount and increase the angle, but I wanted to have a lower steering wheel.

Normally, they mount high through the lower mount. As you can see, I had to lower it about 2.75" and build a new mount that uses a Flaming River orbital that will take a whole lot more angle. It really wasn't that hard, just a bit of time and 3/16" aluminum that I had on hand.

I added a few pics that shows the orientation.

I am away, so my buddy is working on the final steps. Since we had the front sub frame open, he welded nuts on the inside of the sub frame. Yep, my down bars were anchoring to tapped box tube, nothing on the inside... I think it's a bit better off now. He also sealed up the cuts... and now has a lot of flap disking to do. I feel sad for his nose, cause it's going to be black booger time. I am glad to be away for once :).

grendel 09-28-2016 12:04 PM

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This is the lower column mount I put on a piece of aluminum.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/f...0101/overview/

It allows more angle than the stock, or aftermarket replacements that used stock geometry.

The attached pic is the one I bought, that is all stock location. My finger is where it actually needed to go through. So I used the black one as a template.

It came in clear aluminum, I had it it anodized, only to find that I had to re-do it.

grendel 09-29-2016 11:51 AM

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All welded up, flapped and painted.

Goosesdad 09-29-2016 10:25 PM

Thanks for the pics John!! I used the eyeball mount from IDIDIT but I let the upper mount locate the lower mount. I didn't have the headers mounted up yet so I sort'a guessed, we'll see, I think it should be good. Appreciate the pics you sent! Your car is looking great!! I think I might need to buy you a beer and get the low down on how you get your friend to work on your ride while you are away!!! That's a good friend, keep that dude!!

grendel 10-03-2016 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Goosesdad (Post 646425)
Thanks for the pics John!! I used the eyeball mount from IDIDIT but I let the upper mount locate the lower mount. I didn't have the headers mounted up yet so I sort'a guessed, we'll see, I think it should be good. Appreciate the pics you sent! Your car is looking great!! I think I might need to buy you a beer and get the low down on how you get your friend to work on your ride while you are away!!! That's a good friend, keep that dude!!

Oh that one's easy. He's my shop foremen, working out of his home garage on my project, for side work.

grendel 10-03-2016 06:54 PM

We're also prepping for SEMA, which is always iffy.

I am going with a TCI interior, considering that they've been doing them for 30 years.

grendel 10-05-2016 02:07 PM

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Mostly done with wiring and plumbing.

Time to bring it home.

Now for final body work, fitting the nose, the deck lid, etc.

Then interior.

waynieZ 10-05-2016 04:42 PM

JJ, it's looking great, I'm glad to see it moving along smothly. I love the dash.

grendel 10-05-2016 04:54 PM

Thanks Wayne.

I am not sure about the rims/tires from my Z06 Vette, but they do fit. :G-Dub:

grendel 10-07-2016 06:48 PM

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Got the driveshaft in today.

grendel 10-08-2016 04:16 PM

1 step forward, 3 backwards.

The nicely ceramic coated exhaust doesn't fit with any rear tire I have, including the Boyds that were on the car.

Oi.

May just do turn downs after the muffler.

WHAT? I can't hear you... Betrayal made me deaf and dumb. :BlahBlah:

I swear, I hate this car. :bigun2:

fleetus macmullitz 10-08-2016 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by grendel (Post 646995)

I swear, I hate this car. :bigun2:

lol


Schroeder 10-09-2016 03:13 PM

Nice build, grendel. I have been sending you some PMs with questions over the last couple of weeks. Could you look at your inbox and shoot me some answers? It would be much appreciated!! Keep up the good work.

grendel 10-13-2016 09:52 PM

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Started getting the interior together.


Also got the rear axle shaft back, so I can put all that to rest, too.

Little stuff now, like getting the Ride Tech cans into the trunk on the Ron Sutter brackets.

Still trying to hunt down a dash. I don't want to use repop stuff.

glassman 10-13-2016 10:29 PM

Dash.. ?. Gauge cluster or padded part? Imo they both suck. I'm still trying to come up with a better (maybe billett guage cluster, too pricey?) or design. I will most likely be doing my interior next year so with design in mind.....?????

grendel 10-14-2016 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by glassman (Post 647295)
Dash.. ?. Gauge cluster or padded part? Imo they both suck. I'm still trying to come up with a better (maybe billett guage cluster, too pricey?) or design. I will most likely be doing my interior next year so with design in mind.....?????


I have a Dakota Digital gauge cluster and their carrier. Both are really good.

Looking for all the stock plastics and a dash pad.

grendel 11-06-2016 08:58 AM

So, we've spent some time trying to get the FAST EZ EFI 2.0 to run this motor. If you look back, you'd see that the Callies Magnum XL crank that started this whole build ( destroked LS2 to mimic a DZ302 in a Camaro) doesn't have a provision for a crank sensor. It was built to run a carb and distributor in a specific race class. FAST sent us a crank wheel and trigger for an SBC and we adapted it to the front of the pulley system.

Long story, short, it just doesn't work, even though FAST is positive it will.

I pulled the plug.

We're expecting a 416ci LS3 based Mamo Motorsports built motor on Wednesday. It will get the FAST XFI Sportsman EFI and keep the look I want in this car. We lose some RPM, we gain some weight and certainly gain about 125hp.

This destroked LS2 gets a GMPP front timing cover that takes a distributor. Might get dual quads that I have, might get something else, but I have a 31 Ford to put it in. I think it will bug some guys... it looks like a Ford motor, but has GM stampings on it? :)

Che70velle 11-06-2016 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by grendel (Post 648450)
So, we've spent some time trying to get the FAST EZ EFI 2.0 to run this motor. If you look back, you'd see that the Callies Magnum XL crank that started this whole build ( destroked LS2 to mimic a DZ302 in a Camaro) doesn't have a provision for a crank sensor. It was built to run a carb and distributor in a specific race class. FAST sent us a crank wheel and trigger for an SBC and we adapted it to the front of the pulley system.

Long story, short, it just doesn't work, even though FAST is positive it will.

I pulled the plug.

We're expecting a 416ci LS3 based Mamo Motorsports built motor on Wednesday. It will get the FAST XFI Sportsman EFI and keep the look I want in this car. We lose some RPM, we gain some weight and certainly gain about 125hp.

This destroked LS2 gets a GMPP front timing cover that takes a distributor. Might get dual quads that I have, might get something else, but I have a 31 Ford to put it in. I think it will bug some guys... it looks like a Ford motor, but has GM stampings on it? :)


JJ, this project has fought you since the beginning, so keep pushing. You'll get there. So...the issues with the efi? No idle?
Did you get your flush glass installed?

grendel 11-06-2016 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Che70velle (Post 648459)
JJ, this project has fought you since the beginning, so keep pushing. You'll get there. So...the issues with the efi? No idle?
Did you get your flush glass installed?

We couldn't get the timing right. It was just too much to fight.

Haven't ordered the flush glass yet.

XLexusTech 11-06-2016 07:11 PM

Another 100+ HP I'll take it !

waynieZ 11-06-2016 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by grendel (Post 648450)

We're expecting a 416ci LS3 based Mamo Motorsports built motor on Wednesday. It will get the FAST XFI Sportsman EFI and keep the look I want in this car. We lose some RPM, we gain some weight and certainly gain about 125hp.

This destroked LS2 gets a GMPP front timing cover that takes a distributor. Might get dual quads that I have, might get something else, but I have a 31 Ford to put it in. :)

You took care of two birds with one stone.

grendel 11-27-2016 10:08 AM

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Where we sit, waiting for a new oil pan and baffle, since it's a 4" stroke and a low clearance application...

Driving me nuts.

At least I got to weld on AN20 fittings to the water pump and radiator... that's a -20 on my thumb. Seems a bit silly, but it's the look I want.

GregWeld 11-27-2016 10:16 AM

Just WOW!!


Is that a GM performance crate motor or???

grendel 11-27-2016 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 649493)
Just WOW!!


Is that a GM performance crate motor or???

It's built by Mamo Motorsports. A wee bit more juice than a GM crate.

All my other cars will be done with GMPP connect and cruise crates though. I've learned my lesson with the LS2 that came out. No more "it should work" applications. Tried and true will be my new name of the game.

GregWeld 11-27-2016 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by grendel (Post 649494)
It's built by Mamo Motorsports. A wee bit more juice than a GM crate.

All my other cars will be done with GMPP connect and cruise crates though. I've learned my lesson with the LS2 that came out. No more "it should work" applications. Tried and true will be my new name of the game.



I hear ya! That's exactly what's in the '40 Ford Pinkee's is building for me. I've messed with enough of this stuff now to know how much engineering GM has put into this stuff. It's hard to beat it unless you're going for much more power than what they offer.

grendel 11-27-2016 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 649495)
I hear ya! That's exactly what's in the '40 Ford Pinkee's is building for me. I've messed with enough of this stuff now to know how much engineering GM has put into this stuff. It's hard to beat it unless you're going for much more power than what they offer.

Yep - although this Mamo motor is loads more than any GMPP motor, so it does have that going for it. It's still much simpler than the LS2 based RPM motor that came out of this car, which is also getting simpler.

waynieZ 11-27-2016 10:39 AM

Nice looking motor, Mamo knows his stuff .

GregWeld 11-27-2016 11:00 AM

I'm surprised that you couldn't get the Fast EZ EFI to work --- it really only needs a tach signal - which can be taken off the MSD box tach driver..... but obviously if the trigger isn't signaling the MSD box to fire correctly - then the tach signal is no good.

I'd have thought a crank trigger assembly off the balancer ala drag cars and many others - would do nicely for the signal. But who knows?

Che70velle 11-27-2016 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 649499)
Nice looking motor, Mamo knows his stuff .

Yes he does!!

John, don't leave us in suspense, we need some engine specs please!

grendel 11-27-2016 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 649502)
I'm surprised that you couldn't get the Fast EZ EFI to work --- it really only needs a tach signal - which can be taken off the MSD box tach driver..... but obviously if the trigger isn't signaling the MSD box to fire correctly - then the tach signal is no good.

I'd have thought a crank trigger assembly off the balancer ala drag cars and many others - would do nicely for the signal. But who knows?

That's what we did.

We were using a FAST XIM box with a SBC crank trigger on the front of the crank reporting timing to to the EZ EFI 2.0 system. Thing is, the EZ EFI takes limited functions. EFI sportsman is "Supposed to work" but when push came to shove, they said it's better to run a distributor, which this motor will get, but then I didn't want that in this Camaro. The LS looks more like a Ford motor at this point...

Funny thing, the Mamo motor is getting EFI Sportsman anyway, but now has a standard LS crank and cam sensor, so it will all run natively without concern for square or sine wave inputs. We went simpler.

Next ones will be ALL GM, no aftermarket EFI.

grendel 11-29-2016 05:49 PM

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Motor specs.

It's Chevy orange. Has a chromo crank.

Connects to the TR6060 via a pretty clutch.

:)

GregWeld 11-29-2016 06:16 PM

Lovely.....



LOL

grendel 11-29-2016 06:48 PM

:)

Oh, it's got 3 figures HP.

gofastwclass 11-29-2016 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by grendel (Post 649705)
:)

Oh, it's got 3 figures HP.

Mine only has two, I bet she's a screamer! :lmao:

grendel 12-02-2016 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 649502)
I'm surprised that you couldn't get the Fast EZ EFI to work --- it really only needs a tach signal - which can be taken off the MSD box tach driver..... but obviously if the trigger isn't signaling the MSD box to fire correctly - then the tach signal is no good.

I'd have thought a crank trigger assembly off the balancer ala drag cars and many others - would do nicely for the signal. But who knows?

So, after everything we went through, FAST wants their box back, as they think it's in the ECM.

Holy carp.

waynieZ 12-02-2016 10:54 PM

Got to love it. Now they say that!!!!

grendel 12-03-2016 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 649944)
Got to love it. Now they say that!!!!

You have no idea. 40+ hours on the phone with them, 2 different engines, 2 ignition control boxes.

I think it's cost me about an LS9.


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