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Goosesdad 12-08-2020 07:22 PM

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In the makeshift booth... Just trying to keep all the sanding dust from coating every inch of the shop.
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Speaker mounts double as supports for the rear deck panel.
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Had some help from Mark at CarAudioFabrication, spec'ing out the sound system components. My only hard requirement was the Rockford Fosgate PM3 head unit. Mark is a great resource and helped with the rest. Here are rear speakers, Focal PC165FE's.
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Built some covers to keep the speakers protected from the bottom (trunk)
Just some quick molds for some removable fiberglass boxes.

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From inside the trunk.

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Goosesdad 12-08-2020 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by camcojb (Post 708637)
You are one talented guy!! :king:

Thank you Jody! Haven't forgotten our conversation, just being cautious!
More to come. Thank you for your insight, you are a class act!

waynieZ 12-08-2020 07:38 PM

WOW! Those parts came out amazing! Jack of all trades and master of them all.

214Chevy 12-09-2020 01:56 PM

Sweet Lord Jesus?!!:king:

Juggernaut 12-12-2020 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Goosesdad (Post 708638)
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Had some help from Mark at CarAudioFabrication, spec'ing out the sound system components. My only hard requirement was the Rockford Fosgate PM3 head unit. Mark is a great resource and helped with the rest. Here are rear speakers, Focal PC165FE's.
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That is so cool. I love watching Mark's YouTube videos; always learn a lot from him.

Great work on your car!!

OLDFLM 12-14-2020 05:33 AM

Lights?
 
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Dumb question in a thread with such an incredible car... but what lights are those?

Goosesdad 12-14-2020 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by OLDFLM (Post 708763)
Dumb question in a thread with such an incredible car... but what lights are those?

Hi Ty. Thanks. They are Lithonia 4' LED. LBL4-LP840. With the Surface Wraparound lens with the opaque liner removed. Work great. Have them throughout my shop. These are just temp mounted in this silly excuse for a paint/sanding booth, but they give plenty of light!

Goosesdad 12-14-2020 12:10 PM

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Had to modify the EStopp a bit (shorten) so it would fit with this center console. Ed at Control Cables can shorten the output cable. Great job, inexpensive, fast and great customer service. Shortened the overall length of the system by over 5". Allowed me to cut down the cable separator mount. Just temp'd in here as I don't have the calipers mounted so I can't test it thoroughly but have every confidence it's solid.
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Goosesdad 12-15-2020 01:28 PM

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Starting the plug for the fiberglass dash/center console. Have had this design in my head from the start, finally getting to see if it will work!

I realize that putting the all of gauges off to the side is a little unconventional but with the seats lowered, this actually puts the tach very much in view without maneuvering your vision around the steering wheel. With shift lights and warning lights on the other critical gauges, this seems to work really well.....at least while looking at printed images of the gauges while sitting in the seat, in the shop! Yep... making race car sounds while shifting come with this test, sorta helps...adds vibration to the mix!

The GPS will be removable and a track monitor will fit in the space. Not sure which one yet. Had originally planned on a mini Ipad but it doesn't really fit in the space and I couldn't get a good handle on an integrated remote antenna and charging cord.

Very early stages right now but conceptually, it's working so far.

Trying to keep the factory shape on the dash, just enhanced.

Open to thoughts and opinions.

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syborg tt 12-17-2020 06:08 PM

Wow, I can’t wait to see the next set of pictures.


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Beechy 12-18-2020 04:24 PM

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John.....great vision as usual :cheers:

It's hard to see from your side-on image but it seems you have three separate curves at the moment??? I would make the instrument mounting surface as one continuous curve (in top view).

Because each instrument has a flat mounting flange, and you main surface is curved.....this is a negative curve in your case, you have to raise or depress the surface locally around each shape. This will look much sweeter than having the main surface stopping and starting.
Attached is my Camaro instrument fascia which is one-piece vacuum formed ABS over a plywood/bondo male mold. You can see that each penetration has its own flat flange about 3/16" wide. The radii around the holes are much softer than you will be able to achieve in fiberglass, but I had to go that route for the vacuum form material to flow into the flat areas. Top left air outlet needed raising AND lowering the attaching flange because of the complex (compound) curve at the end of the dash.
BTW....that grill and surround are a commercial stainless steel sugar shaker like a donut store would have.....shhhh.....our secret :rolleyes:

Also my main crash pad surface is a positive curve (with the center higher than the ends) ...... The central warning light area was then machined flat, the border trenched out, and the depressed flanges go deeper again. NEVER CREATE A FLAT SURFACE ON AN AUTO BODY because surrounding curves will make it look hollow.......also shrinkage around edges when the resin cures will pull your surface hollow. Even on a long wide panel that you want to look flat (like a fascia between tail lamps for example) should have 3/16" positive or negative curve in it......never use the plywood dead flat.
My instrument pad is loosey goosey compared to what yours can be ....cos mine is racecar and both left hand and right hand were done in TWO EIGHT HOUR DAYS! You will get better definition using gel coat and glass.

Beechy 12-18-2020 05:51 PM

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There you go John.....alternative sections thru.

Upper section is obviously instruments square to the car....not ideal visually...also prolly get reflections on outer instruments.

Lower is the best.....faces parallel to base surface. More driver focused.

More options.....mount them deeper......tilt them halfway between the angles shown.

Note: these are NOT the images Marty was looking forward to :theresa:

WSSix 12-18-2020 06:28 PM

I think the dash layout if great.

I put the tach dead center above the steering column in my car. With the speedo moved down to beside the steering column arch, I could actually see the whole thing. The factory gauges were cut off at the top because of the steering wheel and how I sit in the car.

Goosesdad 12-19-2020 09:29 AM

Thanks Trey and Jim.

Jim - wow - thanks for all that detail...appreciate all you say! I'll send some more pics this weekend. The insert is actually 3 planes, to do what you suggest as having the gauges in direct line of sight. And then the outer trim is curved.

And....doing that CAD, over and above sir!

Goosesdad 12-21-2020 07:28 PM

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Didn't have huge progress this weekend but some...! Keeping the plug so there are reliefs for the mold and keeping proper gaps for the dash wrap material (leather or alcantara) along with the insert for the gauges....just time consuming.
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Mock'd up some gauges (mdf painted black with color printed gauge faces) just to get the feel of the layout in 3D. This insert will likely be carbon. Not sure yet. Of course all of this wood is just mock up for the fiberglass mold. Lots more to come.
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Started the front edge of the dash, will build it back to the gauge cluster next.
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waynieZ 12-21-2020 08:49 PM

Damn your practice gauges had me fooled, having them like that gives you a great sense of the final piece. Nice job.

214Chevy 12-21-2020 08:50 PM

Very nice!!

Tinker 12-22-2020 02:56 AM

John, it's a shame you are rushing this project.:sarcasm_smiley:
Seriously though You have a car that has detail second to none. Be proud of yourself and thanks for sharing your talents!

Ketzer 12-22-2020 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Goosesdad (Post 708803)
[B]Starting the plug for the fiberglass dash/center console. Have had this design in my head from the start, finally getting to see if it will work!

I realize that putting the all of gauges off to the side is a little unconventional

I for one, LOVE unconventional!!! Great idea keeping true to the basic shape but doing your own layout.


Jeff-

Goosesdad 12-28-2020 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 214Chevy (Post 709055)
Very nice!!

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Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 709054)
Damn your practice gauges had me fooled, having them like that gives you a great sense of the final piece. Nice job.

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Originally Posted by Tinker (Post 709058)
John, it's a shame you are rushing this project.:sarcasm_smiley:
Seriously though You have a car that has detail second to none. Be proud of yourself and thanks for sharing your talents!

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Originally Posted by Ketzer (Post 709063)
I for one, LOVE unconventional!!! Great idea keeping true to the basic shape but doing your own layout.


Jeff-

Thanks guys!! Trying to keep some of the factory lines..

Goosesdad 12-28-2020 12:03 PM

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Some progress pics.
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214Chevy 12-28-2020 02:37 PM

Niiiiiccceeee!!

Spiffav8 12-28-2020 06:06 PM

This is my favorite thread. Always something amazing happening. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

syborg tt 12-28-2020 09:17 PM

70 Camaro - Boise, Idaho
 
I agree with Curtis - this is also my favorite thread.

Since I finally took some time off of work this week. I was able to read this thread from the beginning and the attention to detail, your skills, the ideas and your ability to execute them is just incredible. I can't wait to see what happens over the next year.



I almost kinda want to see what you come up with next and maybe use some of your idea's on my car.



Thank you again for sharing your knowledge with all of us.

Goosesdad 12-29-2020 11:59 AM

Wow! Thank you very much for the compliments!! Extremely kind. The talent, encouragement and willingness to share in this community is incredible. Couldn't do this project without everyone here. I've received truckloads of help and advice and met some fantastic people. I'm extremely thankful, so many class acts! And Marty.. you and that PT-crack dealer (Tim McGilton) started me on this journey. Then all of the rest of the dealers here on LatG kept me buying!

Goosesdad 12-29-2020 09:17 PM

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More progress on the plug for the mold. Wanted to see it in one color so I put the first coat of primer down. Should be a pretty interesting mold.
Lots more to come, A/C vents are next.

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Spiffav8 12-29-2020 10:42 PM

Does the vertical piece between the trans tunnel and the bottom of the day angle towards the driver like the dash does? Hard to tell from the one mock up pic.

Beechy 12-30-2020 01:48 AM

Fyi
 
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Originally Posted by Spiffav8 (Post 709332)
Does the vertical piece between the trans tunnel and the bottom of the day angle towards the driver like the dash does? Hard to tell from the one mock up pic.

Curtis, that's called a center-stack. Cos the audio and other components are typically 'stacked' there.

Goosesdad 12-30-2020 08:04 AM

Hey Curtis. It will be squared up,not angled. Messed it with it quite a bit to make sure all the controls were in reach even while belted in...i originally thought it would be angled but wasn't necessary and it allowed me some room for a storage shelf on the bottom. And just looked better.

Spiffav8 12-30-2020 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Goosesdad (Post 709346)
Hey Curtis. It will be squared up,not angled. Messed it with it quite a bit to make sure all the controls were in reach even while belted in...i originally thought it would be angled but wasn't necessary and it allowed me some room for a storage shelf on the bottom. And just looked better.

Always a balance between function and look. Sounds like you’ve achieved both. Well done!

bkswede 01-01-2021 06:49 PM

Just amazing watching your progress - your creativity and ability are incredible!


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214Chevy 01-02-2021 12:46 PM

Very nice!!

Goosesdad 02-03-2021 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bkswede (Post 709411)
Just amazing watching your progress - your creativity and ability are incredible!


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Originally Posted by 214Chevy (Post 709421)
Very nice!!

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Originally Posted by Spiffav8 (Post 709376)
Always a balance between function and look. Sounds like you’ve achieved both. Well done!


Thank you!!

waynieZ 02-03-2021 09:22 AM

I like the way the dash come out, nice job.

Goosesdad 02-03-2021 09:41 AM

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More progress on the plugs for the molds. I know it all looks a little rough but thought you might enjoy the path. Of course all of this will get ripped out and trashed after the molds.
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Spiffav8 02-04-2021 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Goosesdad (Post 710148)
More progress on the plugs for the molds. I know it all looks a little rough but thought you might enjoy the path. Of course all of this will get ripped out and trashed after the molds.
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Love it!

bkswede 02-05-2021 04:39 PM

Looks awesome - I’m sure you’ve mentioned this already, but what are you using for the lcd screen and who is making the gauges for you? Combination of both is going to look great!


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Goosesdad 02-09-2021 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bkswede (Post 710227)
Looks awesome - I’m sure you’ve mentioned this already, but what are you using for the lcd screen and who is making the gauges for you? Combination of both is going to look great!


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Thanks!
I sized the space for the large Garmin GPS and also their track map device (Catalyst) - to be interchangeable. Not 100% sure here but wanted the space sized large enough for options.
Plan on using Speedhut or Classic Instruments.

spinedoc 02-10-2021 04:04 PM

This is such an amazing thread! You possess some amazing skills. I am loving how this is looking. Thank you so much for sharing.

Goosesdad 02-17-2021 08:55 AM

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A bit more progress on the mock up of the molds. Placement of the side AC vents proved a little challenging. With the door bars and the lowered seats, really needed to keep a space for your feet to move through without having to pull your knees all the way up to your chin! Snaked the ducts between the roll bar and the A-pillar. So, had to keep them up a little higher than planned but as Curtis says (well, really all of us)...form meets function. Had my poor friends climb in and out of this thing about 50 times so I could watch and learn.
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