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Stielow 09-08-2020 12:46 PM

It is going back together. It will come back to my shop for the final wiring.

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randy 09-09-2020 07:56 PM

With the ecu up front where do you route the wires to go behind the engine? I wanted to do that with my gmpp controller but the wires weren’t long enough to put behind the firewall with the ecu and fuse box up on the core support

Stielow 09-10-2020 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by randy (Post 706361)
With the ecu up front where do you route the wires to go behind the engine? I wanted to do that with my gmpp controller but the wires weren’t long enough to put behind the firewall with the ecu and fuse box up on the core support


I extended the wires. Approximately a 100 of them. Well that is what it seemed like.

Mark


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Stielow 09-10-2020 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 706369)
I extended the wires. Approximately a 100 of them. Well that is what it seemed like.

Mark


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Stielow 09-10-2020 05:49 AM

Camaro LT5
 
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Corvette C6 ZR1 caliper with a Gen 6 Camaro ZL1 rotor with a custom hat made. The iron rotors have a better thermal properties compact to the Carbon Ceramics. Also the Delphi ABS will work better with iron rotors over the Carbons. I used the Bosch ABS on the last cars with Carbon Brakes.


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CamaroAJ 09-10-2020 06:32 AM

Is it possible to get a set of those rotor hats? I have C6 ZR1 brakes and would like to be able to put iron rotors on it for track days.

OLDFLM 09-10-2020 06:58 AM

Bigger Pics?
 
Any chance we can get the pics enlarged in the thread?

Stielow 09-10-2020 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by OLDFLM (Post 706375)
Any chance we can get the pics enlarged in the thread?


Jeesh... Lillard complained they were too big


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Stielow 09-10-2020 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by OLDFLM (Post 706375)
Any chance we can get the pics enlarged in the thread?


Which ones do you want?


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camcojb 09-10-2020 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 706376)
Jeesh... Lillard complained they were too big


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Since when do you listen to Charley? :lol:

Stielow 09-10-2020 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CamaroAJ (Post 706374)
Is it possible to get a set of those rotor hats? I have C6 ZR1 brakes and would like to be able to put iron rotors on it for track days.


It would be cheaper and easier to buy these


https://www.girodisc.com/Girodisc-Re...R1_p_6847.html

I have never used this I just did a quick google search.


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cpd004 09-10-2020 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 706383)
Which ones do you want?


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Since you're asking...the bottom pic in post 481. I'd like to see a better shot of the radiator/fan assembly.

Thank you.

Stielow 09-10-2020 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cpd004 (Post 706387)
Since you're asking...the bottom pic in post 481. I'd like to see a better shot of the radiator/fan assembly.

Thank you.


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Stielow 09-10-2020 10:05 AM

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Stielow 09-10-2020 10:43 AM

Intercooler lines

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cwylie 09-10-2020 01:35 PM

Is that an off the shelf DSE car roll bar or something custom?


Stielow 09-10-2020 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cwylie (Post 706398)
Is that an off the shelf DSE car roll bar or something custom?


Custom. Sled Alley made it


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Stielow 09-11-2020 03:02 AM

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OLDFLM 09-11-2020 06:29 AM

And the bear took one look at the size of these photos and said "These are just right!"

Thanks Mark!

F'in mine 09-11-2020 06:29 AM

Mark, in few of your earlier posts you show that you're using IImuch vents, one for the diff and one for the fuel tank. It looks like the Rick's tank has provisions for a rear/ top fitting. Is that the only vent you're using? TIA. Let me re-phrase the question, is the rear tank port the only one you're using?

Stielow 09-11-2020 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by F'in mine (Post 706420)
Mark, in few of your earlier posts you show that you're using IImuch vents, one for the diff and one for the fuel tank. It looks like the Rick's tank has provisions for a rear/ top fitting. Is that the only vent you're using? TIA. Let me re-phrase the question, is the rear tank port the only one you're using?


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Originally Posted by F'in mine (Post 706420)
Mark, in few of your earlier posts you show that you're using IImuch vents, one for the diff and one for the fuel tank. It looks like the Rick's tank has provisions for a rear/ top fitting. Is that the only vent you're using? TIA. Let me re-phrase the question, is the rear tank port the only one you're using?


The Ricks tank has a vent system inside the tank to help. We also add a fitting to the filler neck to help prevent fuel from pushing out of the tank. With all of that said if you 100% fill the tank on a hot day then park the car in the hot sun it might puke over out the 2 Much canister.

The issue is the Ricks tanks and most aftermarket tanks do not have room for expansion.

This one of the only issues we had with Charlies new Riv.

The 2 Much canisters do a great job with fuel vapors but no pure fuel.

I may add an expansion tank to the project before the 2 Much canister to keep raw fuel out of it.

Thanks for the comment I almost forgot about that.

Mark


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Stielow 09-11-2020 12:41 PM

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jeff71 09-11-2020 09:03 PM

Mark, looks like a 4 point bar. Any reason why you’ve gone to 4 point in the recent builds instead of the 6 or 8 (don’t recall exactly) you done in some projects?

Stielow 09-12-2020 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jeff71 (Post 706452)
Mark, looks like a 4 point bar. Any reason why you’ve gone to 4 point in the recent builds instead of the 6 or 8 (don’t recall exactly) you done in some projects?


To be honest to save time and money. The full cages are cool but make everything harder. Harder to make the cage itself. Harder to cleanly fit the dash pad. The park brake becomes an issue. Hard to fit the Vintage Air.

Also at work for our track cars we have gone the the same set up. I design the safety equipment to plan for a front end impact. If I have an issue I plan to crash nose in. I might survive.

Mark


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Vegas69 09-12-2020 06:16 AM

You know these cars better than I, but I always thought my car suffered from flexing in front of the cowl. Before Hood pins, the hood would pop auto crossing and road racing with solid body mounts. I thought down bars would help stabilize, but that’s speculation.

Love the build!

Stielow 09-12-2020 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 706457)
You know these cars better than I, but I always thought my car suffered from flexing in front of the cowl. Before Hood pins, the hood would pop auto crossing and road racing with solid body mounts. I thought down bars would help stabilize, but that’s speculation.

Love the build!


The weld in subframe connects help a lot.

Yes a full cage is better if you want a stiffer car. If you want a fast track car buy a C6 Z06 and save yourself a lot of time and money.


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streetbird 09-12-2020 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 706458)
The weld in subframe connects help a lot.

Yes a full cage is better if you want a stiffer car. If you want a fast track car buy a C6 Z06 and save yourself a lot of time and money.


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it make me laugh, haha

and nice job on the car, cant wait to see it complted

Vegas69 09-12-2020 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 706458)
The weld in subframe connects help a lot.

Yes a full cage is better if you want a stiffer car. If you want a fast track car buy a C6 Z06 and save yourself a lot of time and money.


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Amen to that!

randy 09-12-2020 04:40 PM

Fuel pressure question

When you turn the ignition on does the fuel pumps hold fuel rail pressure? Recently installed a lt4 in a friends 69 and ignition on the fuel pressure goes to 40ish and then drops to zero. Tested this with a online -6an fuel pressure gauge at the fuel inlet at the engine. My gmpp ls3 swap it will hold the fuel pressure with key on

Secondary fan/ AC fan activation

I noticed on a gmpp tune the second fan doesn’t come on till 221 degrees. What do you set your fan settings at? Can you activate the secondary fan with the ac on?

RDuke 09-13-2020 05:25 AM

Can you remind us, are you using something like Gates PowerGrip heatshrink for your hose claps?

Stielow 09-13-2020 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RDuke (Post 706478)
Can you remind us, are you using something like Gates PowerGrip heatshrink for your hose claps?


For the stuff that needs service it is the Gate Power Grip clamps. For hoses that need to be serviced an regular worm gear hose clamp with heat shrink tubing over the strap to make it black. Keeps things clean looking.


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fleetus macmullitz 09-13-2020 06:58 AM

Mark,

I really like the clean look of the rear of the car.

Could you explain your rear spoiler choice (instead of say an adjustable rear wing) and how it works on track?

Thanks.

Stielow 09-13-2020 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Cosmo mentis (Post 706481)
Mark,

I really like the clean look of the rear of the car.

Could you explain your rear spoiler choice (instead of say an adjustable rear wing) and how it works on track?

Thanks.


Like you said it looks clean. If I was building this to be a track weapon I would do a different rear spoiler. 99% of time I’ll just be driving this on the street. For the few open track day I do it will be fine. I would rather have it look stockish vs some “Ricer” wing on it.


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raustinss 09-13-2020 03:39 PM

Curious as to why you haven't or when you're going to put a I.R.S on one of your Camaros Mark ?

patriot68 09-13-2020 08:07 PM

Can you post the upper radiator hose part # please?

Stielow 09-14-2020 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by patriot68 (Post 706504)
Can you post the upper radiator hose part # please?


Dayco Hoses
E71703
D71636


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Stielow 09-14-2020 06:07 AM

Camaro LT5
 
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Originally Posted by raustinss (Post 706496)
Curious as to why you haven't or when you're going to put a I.R.S on one of your Camaros Mark ?


I’ve worked on a lot of IRS setups at GM and they are hard to get correct. I’m happy with my solid axles. Power hop issues. Breaking halfshafts and CV joints. Once you get to 800 plus Ft*Lbs a IRS get very big and heavy.


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RDuke 09-14-2020 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 706480)
For the stuff that needs service it is the Gate Power Grip clamps. For hoses that need to be serviced an regular worm gear hose clamp with heat shrink tubing over the strap to make it black. Keeps things clean looking.


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Thanks!

fleetus macmullitz 09-14-2020 11:54 AM

Mark,

Leaving cost out of the equation for now, would you ever want to install a full frame chassis in a 1st gen?

What would be your reasons pro or con?

Thanks...

cpd004 09-14-2020 01:28 PM

If I missed it in here, my apologies. How do you normally handle your connections at the battery as far as any circuit protection and then where they (or it/positive) runs in to the engine bay for distribution?

BTW...thanks for always giving us a look behind the curtain and most importantly, the why you do things a specific way.


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