I for one enjoy the technical end of things.

If you don't like it, or it bores you, don't read it. I'm in the process of building a car that for me is a lot of money. I like to understand and at least be able to make an educated decision.

If I choose to buy an "expensive" upgrade, I like to know ahead of time whether it is Fluff or truely good technology, then make a decision accordingly.

If this is not your cup of tea, pick anouther topic and knock yourself out.

tyoneal

Well i'm glad to (finally) read some of you are sharing my point of view.

I mean you can be a anybody, full 'o' cash and just be willing to give it around because you like cars and don't know how to work on 'em...But that should not stop you from finding a few minutes a day to educate yourself and understand what you are doing. (it just makes no sense :willy: )

I'm no millionnaire, but i will do things the same way when i get there. (working at it !!! :unibrow: )

I tought about something tonight.... Remember when everybody we're building Pro-Streeters; You needed to have an 8-71 lung on top of that496 Rat, a Lenco behind it, 14 x 32 Goodyears and so many points to that cage that you'd lose count of 'em to run 10.50's ....when Chuck Samuel could do 9's in his El Camino on 9 inch slicks on 1-4 barrel and steel wheels....

But that Scott Sullivan Nova did Look cool. (Hey, i'm 33...I just remember those cars that's all!!!:lol: )

Same thing..."WOW!" Factor....

You can get the job done or even better if you "think" of what you are doing,(what is called engineering i guess) and.....Yes.....you will "WOW" the ones that are like you (edit,theorically speaking; those that go 'see' car shows and don't know squat, onlookers) with your "flashing" namebrand toys at car shows if thats what you are after...

I think that spending the cash is more than OK if its worth it...But to know that, you need to know what you are buying...and why! Back to square one.

Lead.

Huh!!

I missed that one Stewart...(?)

Lead.

LMAO! When I make my next stock investment do I need to pass it by you guys first. :D

I am really curious on what type of car do you own? I owned my 1967 RS Camaro since 1983. Have you ever driven a muscle car with 4 wheel drum brakes? I can tell you that stopping the car was an experience. I never really liked how it handled either, but it was great at the drag strip. I have already driven my Camaro to the edge, when the handling was very scary.

Actually, last month on a trip to Germany for work. Well, I admit that someone with a red 1969 Camaro from Lateral-g.net encouraged me to test on how fast a rental car could go on the autobahn. I took the rental car up to 200 km/h, which is about 120 mph on the autobahn. I was just out of motor, and those pesky rich people in their Mercedes Benz/BMW's or Porsche would blink their lights or honk their horn at you. So you would have to get over in the middle lane. Now, if I had my 1967 Camaro finished and it was over in Germany. I wonder on who would be getting over in the middle lane?

So, when you have a need for speed!! Gotta have a custom front sub, Quadra-link, twin turbo, baer brakes, 3 piece wheels, recaro seats (Gotta be comfortable!!!)

The main reason for my project is to have a 67 Camaro that handles, brakes, and has some of the nice comforts of new cars. Another cool thing is now I have the money to create the Camaro that I always wanted.

Jeff

http://www.kodakgallery.com/67rscamaro

Wow, some of the comments in here really surprise me. If you guys want to piss and moan about something costing way more than it needs to send an email to HRE.

And before you jump up DSE's tailpipe about cost, think about the R&D, and hydroform toolings costs that are spent up front to build something like this. I tell ya it's WAY more than most people on this site have in their entire car.

It's yet to be seen who really has the best subframe (it's all subjective to begin with) but it sure has some nice features. I personally like the hand fabbed look of the WD piece but wouldn't hesitate to run either of them on my own car.

The meat flappers in the group might want to wait for some empirical track data and driving feedback before you pass judgement purely based on suspension numbers ya probably don't understand, and how the competition compares. :thumbsup:

I agree. Even if never on a track - the skills of most "spirited" drivers easily surpasses what most of these cars are capable of with stock components.

Jeff

This statement, in a nutshell, summarizes what those who aren't jumping on the new DSE subframe bandwagon are reacting to. In fact, when you have a "need for speed," you DON'T need a custom front sub, Quadra-link, twin turbo, baer brakes, 3 piece wheels or recaro seats. To suggest a car is "slow" if it doesn't have those things is simply incorrect.