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Vegas69 04-18-2009 08:39 AM

I can't hear it over the exhaust.

fleet 04-18-2009 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 208051)
I can't hear it over the exhaust.

In the wake of the every increasing LS motor tsunami, its refreshing to hear some big block humor, intentional or not! :D

Vegas69 04-21-2009 10:45 PM

Ya...and I think my car is quiet. :rofl:

I got the car back together last Wednesday in preparation for a car show at the local Harley Davidson dealer. I used my coolant system pressure tester after I installed the water pump and intake. Those two leaks were fixed but the gauge still dropped about a half pound in 2 minutes. I ended up needing to move a hose clamp and tighten another a hair and it held 16 lbs no problem. So the intake and water pump both definitely had a leak after inspection after removal. That's all fixed now.

Got up early Saturday and cruised over to the show. I actually entered multiple categories and had a great time. I must of had 7-8 friends show up to keep me company and the car was a huge hit with a nice crowd most of the time. It was a public vote show. Unfortunately the voting slips were inside the dealer and nobody I talked to around my car seemed to know anything about voting. I thought I had it in the bag. Afterall my friends all voted for me and I had a crowd all day. Boy was I wrong. I got beat by a 68 Pro Street Camaro!:D All I can figure out is that all the old farts that entered the show voted for that car or Pro Street is still king. :rofl: That will be the last time I enter a car show. I was thinking on the way over there, I would really just like to keep driving. That is the best part of this car anyway. It looks hot but it drives outstanding.

I've been lucky enough to get the car out the last four days in a row and log a few hundred miles. I've been playing with shock adjustments and brake bias. I have all the rear brake in it and added a little more firmness out back. It's just the best car I've ever driven. It's a blast. I'm entering my first Autoross Sunday.

I did attract the hot chicks at the show. The local gun store had models. I was so dumbfounded when they all jumped in my car I didn't even get a shot. I did drag the best looking one over for a photo later. You can kind of see the Pro Street car by the right side of my hood in the last shot.
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Flash68 04-21-2009 10:50 PM

Pro Street rules! :lol:

Hopefully we can see some vid of the auto-x.

Spiffav8 04-21-2009 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 208464)
Pro Street rules! :lol:

Hopefully we can see some vid of the auto-x.

I'd rather see the vid of the three hot chicks in Todds car...:lol:



So Todd...did you win the contest or what?

Flash68 04-22-2009 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Spiffav8 (Post 208471)
I'd rather see the vid of the three hot chicks in Todds car...:lol:

absof*ckinglutely! :D

tones2SS 04-22-2009 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Spiffav8 (Post 208471)
I'd rather see the vid of the three hot chicks in Todds car...:lol:



So Todd...did you win the contest or what?

Yeah, Todd.
Hook us up!!:thumbsup:

Vegas69 04-22-2009 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Spiffav8 (Post 208471)
I'd rather see the vid of the three hot chicks in Todds car...:lol:



So Todd...did you win the contest or what?

Nope...I got beat out by that Pro Street Orange 68 Camaro with the 445 slicks and the blower through the hood. Instead of an SS emblem or RS emblem, it has a Pro Street emblem. LOL I had a good time, I just won't be sticking around for the end of car shows from now on.

Spiffav8 04-22-2009 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 208511)
Nope...I got beat out by that Pro Street Orange 68 Camaro with the 445 slicks and the blower through the hood. Instead of an SS emblem or RS emblem, it has a Pro Street emblem. LOL I had a good time, I just won't be sticking around for the end of car shows from now on.

Figures that the one car I was the most critical of wins. In no way shape or form was that car cool other than it was a Camaro. The color sucked, the interior sucked and the stance was ridiculous. I swear it looked like someone puked in it....maybe there is a huge Pro Street movement that I don't know about....or understand.

MWCC 04-22-2009 03:43 PM

What probably happend to you Todd is normal. A lot of shows are very political. You need to be in with the right people to get the votes. Peoples choice or not, a lot of shows are who you know. Maybe the wrong crowd was there.

I would have voted for ya if I was there!! That car is SWEEEET!!:thumbsup:

Vegas69 04-22-2009 04:01 PM

Appreciate it guys....the public for the most part wasn't voting. I think you are exactly right Nick. The car show crowd dictated the outcome. We all know the average cars show guy is in his 50's or 60's and set in his ways. I did have a couple say they were voting for me. I would never vote for a pro street car so there you go. I was the only pro touring car on the lot. I bet my ride home was the best. LOL

awr68 04-22-2009 05:36 PM

Just keep driving it....you know it kicks ass!! :thumbsup:

Flash68 04-23-2009 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by awr68 (Post 208592)
Just keep driving it....you know it kicks ass!! :thumbsup:

Yeah dude, you don't need the validation that its bad ass. :D

Vegas69 04-24-2009 10:08 PM

Prepping the car for the autocross Sunday. I decided to clean both fuel filters since the car has a decent amount of miles. I also decided to figure out exactly how much fuel I have with the gauge on Empty. Ricks tanks show empty with 5 gallons in reserve I figured out tonight. I pumped all the gas out into a can with the fuel pump to simulate running out of gas. That ought to get me atleast 25 miles. :D Nice to know on a road trip.To my surprise the fuel filters were spotless. I must of done a good job of cleaning out everything originally. I'll pump the tires up to 40psi and I'm ready to go Sunday. http://www.myautoevents.com/pls/mae/...event_id=10025

fleet 04-24-2009 10:31 PM

Todd, you seem prepared to take on any pro-street car that dares enter this contest, huh?

:D

Vegas69 04-24-2009 10:45 PM

HA HA :cheers:

Flash68 04-25-2009 12:38 AM

Video or it didn't happen....

tones2SS 04-25-2009 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 208570)
Appreciate it guys....the public for the most part wasn't voting. I think you are exactly right Nick. The car show crowd dictated the outcome. We all know the average cars show guy is in his 50's or 60's and set in his ways. I did have a couple say they were voting for me. I would never vote for a pro street car so there you go. I was the only pro touring car on the lot. I bet my ride home was the best. LOL

You are exactly right Todd.:thumbsup:
I would have voted for Payback. I bet you did have the best/most comfortable ride home too!!!:cheers:

Vegas69 04-25-2009 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 208982)
Video or it didn't happen....

Not sure about this event.....maybe after some practice.

68protouring454 04-25-2009 11:10 AM

fyi, i would inflate or deflate tires to 34-36 for auto x,

fleet 04-25-2009 12:24 PM

I hear it helps if you're angry, or at least look angry.

:D

skatinjay27 04-25-2009 01:25 PM

are you going alone?
call me i video it for you (i wont post it unless you want.)LOL

Vegas69 04-25-2009 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 68protouring454 (Post 209028)
fyi, i would inflate or deflate tires to 34-36 for auto x,

Thanks for the heads up Jake. I run 35 all the time anyway.

6D9 04-28-2009 12:38 PM

Todd....have you get your car to the strip yet??

Vegas69 04-28-2009 02:07 PM

I went to the autocross Sunday. I am having a set of racing wheels made right now and will probably get out to the drag strip soon. I have shattered my big and skinny dreams with my Forgeline purchase. I am going to go with a wheel and tire I can safely run autocross, road course, and drag strip.

Flash68 04-28-2009 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 209446)
I went to the autocross Sunday. I am having a set of racing wheels made right now and will probably get out to the drag strip soon. I have shattered my big and skinny dreams with my Forgeline purchase. I am going to go with a wheel and tire I can safely run autocross, road course, and drag strip.

Damn, now you're gettin Forgelines? Which ones? You sellin the Boosts then?

It never ends...

Vegas69 04-28-2009 02:56 PM

Boosts aren't going anywhere. They are still my favorite for my car. Just want a spare set of lighter weight 18's with a set of R compounds since I intend to race the car alot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D And you are 100% right, it never ends dude. Your journey has just begun.

Flash68 04-28-2009 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 209453)
Boosts aren't going anywhere. They are still my favorite for my car. Just want a spare set of lighter weight 18's with a set of R compounds since I intend to race the car alot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D And you are 100% right, it never ends dude. Your journey has just begun.

Yeah good. Those Boosts are money on 1st gens. I kinda regret changing my mind and not getting them. You done good.

18s and R compounds sounds yummy. You thinkin R888s?

Vegas69 04-28-2009 03:51 PM

I really want the Hoosier A6's for autocross but I do intend to run the optima challenge and drag strip for fun and don't and can't afford to buy that many compounds. R888 should work for everything fairly well.

6D9 04-28-2009 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 209446)
I went to the autocross Sunday. I am having a set of racing wheels made right now and will probably get out to the drag strip soon. I have shattered my big and skinny dreams with my Forgeline purchase. I am going to go with a wheel and tire I can safely run autocross, road course, and drag strip.



Good deal man.....sounds like a plan! Should run really good I bet. 500rwhp should get you some soild low 120 traps I would think. Sometimes I wish I went the big stroker BBC route instead of the Procharger...just so much crap to worry about!

Vegas69 05-07-2009 10:27 PM

The Forgelines are officially in production and I should have them in about 30 days with fresh R888 rubber. Can't wait.

I am running my second Autocross Sunday. There are some things I wanted to fix and tweak before this weekends race. I encountered what I believed was some brake pad knock back. Basically, I would go into the first corner with great pedal and going into the next corner I would have to much pedal travel. It delayed my timing and I eventually just pumped them once between corners. (like I didn't have enough going on) So I jacked up the car when I got it home and checked for pad drag. The fronts seem to have plenty of drag after parking the car. The rears however had barely any to none. I decided to install a 2 psi residual valve to keep the pads up against the rotors and creat some drag. Evidentally there is enough play in the rear end to cause some knock back. I can't feel any and have never had this problem on the street. This weekend will let me know if it's fixed.
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Upon inspection before the last autocross I found a leaky axle seal in the RR. It was starting to get onto the rotor and the drum brakes for the e brake. When the rear end was assembled whoever installed the axle seal must of used a seal driver that was a little small. As you can see in the photo the inside of the seal was caved in some and caused the leak. I can understand why...they are kind of a biatch to get in. You really need a seal driver kit with a 63mm driver. Axle is back in and the brakes are back on now.
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Last but not least is I encountered enough wheel flex for the inside lip of the wheel to contact the shock bushing and housing in the LR. I also determined that my current setup will not work with my 18's. I have two brackets being cut at the water jet shop in the morning. I'm moving my shock mount in 2 inches for extra clearance that will keep the shock on the same plane with no bind and approx same length. A small ride height change wil need t be made but the rub will be gone and it will work for both 18's and 19's. The rear end bracket is 1/8 and I stepped it up to 1/4 just to be safe. The bracket will also have rounded corners and painted to match.
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...1969/016-1.jpg

fleet 05-07-2009 10:59 PM

Great TCAND* tech as always Todd. :thumbsup:

I think I should build one like yours.

It's the only PT car with an online service manual. :D



*These cars are never done

Flash68 05-07-2009 11:17 PM

Impressive work man. Good luck on the auto-x. Make us proud! :D

BBC69Camaro 05-07-2009 11:18 PM

How close where was your rim to the lower shock mount?

Spiffav8 05-07-2009 11:57 PM

Be sure to let me know where and when for Sunday. :unibrow:

98ssnova 05-08-2009 01:56 AM

Hey Todd I would resafetywire those brakes double neutral is not good and there is alot of slack in the wire would want your brakes rotors to loosen up on you at the event.

bigtyme1 05-08-2009 03:09 AM

Todd, let me know how the shock brackets turn out. I may have to do the same thing. Infact if you to make and extra set PM me a price and I'll take them.

Vegas69 05-08-2009 07:42 AM

I enjoy the tweaking and dialing in of the car. Everytime I put a wrench on the car it's a little better. I've searched through many forums for ideas so I feel it's the least I can do to save somebody a headache.

The shock was probably 3/8" LR from the wheel. Bigtyme...feel free to steal the photo and send it to your local waterjet. They are only costing me $40. Let me make sure they work as intended first. I'll snap some pictures this weekend.

I see what your saying about the safety wire. There not as loose as they may look.

fleet 05-08-2009 07:57 AM

Todd, your car is a role model to all those little Camaros out there hoping to be pro-touring Camaros when then grow up. :D

Vegas69 05-08-2009 09:35 PM

I won't be making the race. One autocross and I already have a torn upper gbar bushing and bleeding the brakes I see a few bubbles where the machined surfaces meet RR. The two center bolts feel bottomed out or cross threaded. You can acutally wiggle the center bolts that hold the caliper together. All three other calipers feel seated and won't wiggle of course. It has great pedal and will hold for 2 minutes but after 2 mintues there is just enough to wet your finger. So you guys with stock g bar links might as well upgrade now if you plan to drive your car. I'm going to request a new caliper from Wilwood since it's clearly an assembly problem. What a buzz kill!:D

The good news is the residual valve has gave me the brake drag I need and the brackets turned out sweet. Time for a bud light.:cheers:


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