You are definitely taking the correct steps in making the DSE tubs fit perfect. I wanted to go the extra mile and do just what you are doing, but decided I just didn't want to put that much effort to get that 'perfect' fit in the wheel wells. I was being a bit lazy:rolleyes:

Jeremy .... thanks for talking to me Sat., never would have guessed you'd have an accent being from Mississippi :) , almost got the closeout ready for the mig gun.
Used Eastwood's Internal Frame Coating on the inside area and that seemed to cover all that got in it's way (omni directional nozzle) .... I did have to tape the brass nozzle to a coat hanger wire so I could aim it and keep it from being willy nilly on the tubing. Had a pix but ImageShack would not post it correctly.

http://imageshack.us/a/img9/1818/bk98.jpg
Finished the outside corner, dress and install!

Almost pulled the gun last nite .... it was late and I was trying to hold this closeout on 3 axis and weld so I called it, I'll try again tonight.

HAHA! Yeah, I'm a born and bred southern boy:yes:

Glad to see the tubs haven't stalled you too much. Looks like you got a good handle on them now:gitrdun:

:thankyou: I'm all over them now .... did a little welding the other night and finished the driver's side shock closeout last night. Did not want to get back into that trunk more than I had to, and it was at least 95 in that dang garage.

Anyway... take a look, I should get to the frame close out this weekend, keep your fingers crossed we should get some cooler weather coming into our area. When it's 110 in the garage it's NO FUN :badidea:

http://imageshack.us/a/img600/584/c7mf.jpg
Eastwood's Internal Frame Coating... nice stuff.
http://imageshack.us/a/img827/3355/il4s.jpg
She's parallel @ 2.75"
http://imageshack.us/a/img9/2104/h0h9.jpg
One closeout down ....3 more to go .:thumbsup:

Thanks for looking ....

It's looking good.You are going to have a very well built camaro when she's all finished.

:thankyou: If it's worth doing it's worth doing right!!!

Scott, met Mr. Miller @ GG Loveland. I went on the Friday and watched the autocross for most of the day. Talked with him some but he was keeping that 69 busy, nice frame design .... 315 in the front, nice!

Your are quite the fabricator .... you are doing it right!:cheers:

just as always quality work,well done:thumbsup:

Update 7/28
 

:thankyou: I hope others can learn from this thread .... the right way to do things (slowly), I know I learn from other threads also.

Your car is coming along quickly, nice!!!

Been in the garage welding and thinking if it wasn't for my OCD I might have this tub done done already .... anyway, take a look. Most of the welding is done on the drivers side, I was running outa gas and so was my mig tank, still have to make the floor match the tub at either ends ( make use of my stretcher/ shrinker) and weld those in.

http://imageshack.us/a/img534/456/x9bn.jpg
Sprayed Eastwoods Internal Frame down front and back!
http://imageshack.us/a/img580/2922/tsvv.jpg
Yeah, I cut the frame too deep ...oh well, it's only metal!
http://imageshack.us/a/img839/7586/v9ex.jpg
Finished the closeout, mostly!
http://imageshack.us/a/img802/930/1lsi.jpg
She's straight .... :thumbsup:

I have to get out and clean the garage now ... I have a big mess, thankfully it quit misting and the sun came out.

Thanks for looking .....

Looking good!

Thank's,Kevin's a good kid.Really proud of him.Did he take for a ride.

Thanks .... almost done with one side!

I did not ask for a ride (didn't want to seem like a stalker) I drooled over the car and took a bunch of pictures .... mostly your subframe, and took some video of the runs. Maybe next year if he remembers me :grouphug:

Eureka!!!!!!
 

THIS IS THE COLOR for my car .... check out this Mercedes matte color!

It's exactly what I've pictured in my little pee brain :lostmarbles: little black here and there (hood maybe) and she'll be NICE!

http://cdn.carsroute.com/wp-content/...ert-Gold-6.jpg

This ain't your Grandma's car by the way .... gold is ok!

That could work Chief! I like the suggestion of some black stripes or accents. I think that would look very nostalgic and still have a bad ass modern muscle feel to it.:gitrdun:

It could kind of be a new twist on the Smokey Yunick theme.

http://www.inflexwetrust.com/wp-cont...-am-camaro.jpg

Been reworking the flanges on the mini tubs .... I didn't like the idea of clamping the tub over to the inside to make up the gap (close to 5/16") and then welding the tub under tension. So I flattened the flange, re-drew and made the flange where I needed it to be .... now I have a tub that is 2.75" through out the arc of the tub.

Take a look at the drivers side that has been reworked and re-flanged to make up the gap .... AND the flange is nice and crisp @ 90 w/o that 3/8 roll that came with the tub. Killed two birds with one body hammer and dolly :thumbsup:

http://imageshack.us/a/img837/9196/3gb0.jpg
The black sharpie line was the old flange line ... moved it over a bit!
http://imageshack.us/a/img202/4931/w323.jpg
That's how they should be stamped!

The sharper bend will close that gap between the inner and outer wheel house and look way better w/o 1/2" seam sealer .... yes?

Getting there ..... little more hammer and dolly work and then the welder comes out :headspin:

Thanks for looking .....

:thumbsup: Thanks .... needs black fer sure. Thinking CHC 68 Project Redemption layout w/ that Desert Gold and black! I'll have to ask Chris' permission.

See above post for image!

Nice work Chief, yup that will look much better without the thick seam sealer!!

:thankyou: Haven't work on her cuz my boys came out for a visit, one went home and the youngest stayed an extra week .... that's ok!

I'll get back on her this week .....:popcorn2:

You really don't have to rub it into my face with those fancy new minitub flanges:mad:

Just kidding, I wanted to do that as well, but just didn't want to take the time to accomplish it. They look great!

Any chance your car is a factory a/c car? Mine isn't and I am installing the Vintage Air kit. I don't like the VA dash vents, so I want to go with the original style vent. They have an odd shaped hole and I'm having a difficult time marking out my dash to cut that hole.

Jeremy .... sorry, mine is not an A/C car. Just got in off the road or I would have checked this sooner, hope someone has chimed in on your thread and helped out.

I wasn't rubbing in the flange :sarcasm_smiley:

It's cool. I made a template off of a friend's 69 Firebird. If you plan to add air to your car and use the factory style vents, then I have a template along with my cutouts if you want them.

Update 9/1
 

Jeremy .... I will take you up on that offer when the time comes :thankyou:


Well ... I have had this list of things to get done rolling around in my head and I got some of them done over the past few weeks:

http://imageshack.us/a/img713/8149/k1p5.jpg
Mini tub ready for final fit .... quarter on order!

http://imageshack.us/a/img594/4529/6f5l.jpg
Set ride height on jig ... naw, new rubber wheels.

http://imageshack.us/a/img832/8669/yith.jpg
Clean these up ....

http://imageshack.us/a/img42/2609/bqwy.jpg
Much better!

http://imageshack.us/a/img209/6480/44sx.jpg
Getting ready for Lizard Skin and some 3M bonding!

http://imageshack.us/a/img69/5407/1sa8.jpg
Almost ready for the skin!

http://imageshack.us/a/img541/1314/9w1a.jpg
Ouch, driver's side latch .... not good!!!!

So ... any suggestions on this driver's side latch? Are the repro's any good? I should be spraying epoxy primer tomorrow, Lizard skin and 3m bonding the passenger door skin if all goes well.

Spent most of today prepping and sweating the small stuff when I realized that I didn't have any room to MOVE the skin if I need to anyway ..... it's way too tight on the frame. Looks like I will have to use lots of GAP SPRAY :)

Thanks for lookin .....

Looking good!

The reproduction door latches are fine. I have one on my driver's door. I misplaced my original and so had to get a repop. It works just fine.

I still have to remove the vent bezels from my dash. I haven't taken the time to do that as I've been knee deep working on my console. It's not fun trying to bend 16 gauge sheet metal with a body hammer, bench vice, c-clamps and some 1/4" plate steel. Next week I'm going to build a space shuttle capable of reaching Mars with a washing machine, some juicy fruit and hydrogen peroxide:wacko:

I thought Chiefs only knew how to drink coffee...you got skills :bow: I'm prior navy gse3

Thanks.

Thanks for your service .... attention to detail and drinking coffee are my top two skills! Now go and get something done that you should have gotten done yesterday .... and double time!!!!

:thankyou:

Lazy day today. No current project of my own, so am enjoying reading others. Chief, I'm just blown away by your work. Will be following along to completion.

Looking good Chief

Update 9/7
 

:thankyou: just trying to do it right the first time, don't want to do this again anytime soon! There's plenty more .....

:thankyou: Thanks Wayne, been tryin to get somethings done that I can in a day or two, waiting on my drivers quarter and then I'll open up that can of worms :superhack:

So, I had some hours in the garage today ... been so hot I had to get going at the crack of dawn in order to spray epoxy before it got too hot, wiped everything down taped off the edges and sprayed epoxy.

When it cooled off in the day I put down some Lizard Skin on the inside of the door skin .... in prep for the bonding of the door to the frame, tomorrow? Maybe .... here's some pictures to look through.

http://imageshack.us/a/img802/3960/p9ft.jpg
Door skin ready for epoxy!
http://imageshack.us/a/img844/4499/y0q8.jpg
Taped off edges for 3M bonding to frame.
http://imageshack.us/a/img580/1769/9pzg.jpg
Spraying epoxy finally ....
http://imageshack.us/a/img9/5233/kvh2.jpg
Lizard Skin on the inside of the door skin ... pretty cool stuff!
http://imageshack.us/a/img826/352/dvm8.jpg
She's ready for skins:hapdance:

So that's what I did today .... more tomorrow!

Thanks for looking ...

Lizard Skin Lessons
 

Thought I'd post some lessons learned from using Lizard Skins Sound Control product on my door skins .... in case someone was wondering!

The product is very easy to use ... provided you purchase their applicator gun, and the clean up is with water and soap. Mixed with the paddle provided and applied the first coat yesterday and let it dry, I tried to use the included WET FILM GAUGE to test thickness ... that just made a mess and confused me (simple minded), think credit card .036 thou and they want no less than .040 in two applications. That's the goal.

I used a plastic serving spoon to get it into the pot from the pail ... instead of pouring, cuz when it's done there is product left from the siphon angle and the spoon will get the remains out and back into the pail will little waste.

I used about 45 psi at the gun with a turn and a half on the adjustment tip for the second coat and you can see the texture it left .... more product more stipple, more air more drier dimpled look.

I used a razor blade to clean the edges that had over spray, you can sand and paint the product after it has fully dried ... and that is cool :gitrdun:

http://imageshack.us/a/img22/555/fq3q.jpg
Just after the second coat was sprayed!
http://imageshack.us/a/img94/4643/a1p4.jpg
Cured and dry!


Had other pictures but ImageShack is acting up with mongo pictures .....
Any questions, please ask.

Nice!

Chief,
Looks real good and your doing a great job, great motivation for us to keep moving. I'm looking to spray L. skin in the next couple weeks and with your write up it seems something i can tackle without much worries..keep up the great work.

Mini tub
 

I like the idea of cutting the frame rail deep and widening the tub! More rear tire!!

Great job so far keep up the good work and the photos coming in. And thanks for your service to our country..:cheers:

Still here have not washed away with the floods here in NOCO! Man these last two days have been crazy, the Governor sent us home at noon ... so I went and worked on the car :relax: Planned to go archery elk hunting Sunday but all the roads up to the mountains are closed :bang:

Thanks Wayne!

Tony, it was pretty easy to work with, spray a test patch and adjust air and get a feel for the amount coming out. I ran with 1 1/2 out on the nozzle and that seemed to lay out nice. Good luck!

More tire, MO BETTER!

:flag2: Thanks and there's plenty mo pictures!

So .... cleaned up the reinforcement pieces that the window fuzzies get attached to, still need to get some zinc primer on them and weld them to the outer door skin prior to attaching the skin. If the weather warms up I may try my hand at bonding the passenger side door skin......that's why there is bare metal all around the perimeter of the door skin and the frame... for the 3M Bonding.

http://imageshack.us/a/img29/3931/bhdu.jpg
Closeup of the Lizard Skin after pulled the tape.... 0.040?

http://imageshack.us/a/img856/8913/f98v.jpg
Touching up door with POR Chassis Black before I cover w/ skin!

Thanks for looking ....

Excellent job there Chief! Keep the pixes coming

Update 9/16
 

Thanks Jeremy ... trying to keep everyone motivated with pictures :buttkick:

So, it's been raining and flooding here in NOCO for a week and the temp never got above 60 so I could not get the door skins bonded, so plan B. Fit in the passenger side mini tub and get some measurements.

Made a go no go gauge outa wood that fits snug (41 5/8") and would keep things parallel with the drivers side tub ... worked well. Fit snug inside the backseat area, up and over the shock area and half way through the trunk .... and then I took a turn or something, it's metal I can fix it!

Pictures ..... here's the mini tub clamped with the measurements, the surprise was the tub in the trunk - there is a gap of 3/4" between them :confused59: , the front was 5/8" just like the driver's side. Same drill .... flatten the flange and move it over to fit the outer wheel house flange :popcorn2:

http://imageshack.us/a/img194/8273/r5g2.jpg
My go-no-go gauge fit in the trunk!
http://imageshack.us/a/img843/1043/b420.jpg
I undercut the floor at the end ... and there is a gap between the tubs.
http://imageshack.us/a/img37/2334/szfn.jpg
The front of the tub ... same as drivers side :disgusted:
http://imageshack.us/a/img41/224/i4ud.jpg
Wasn't expecting this fer sure ....

Quick depth measurements shows the same as the drivers side :hapdance: That's all for today, thanks for looking ....

it's metal I can fix it!

That's the best attitude to have and why your doing so well !I need to think that way a lot more. :thumbsup:

I can work with metal, give me a piece of wood and I'll screw that up!

Man did I make a mess today with this 3M Bonding stuff. It was a good day in the garage, got the window fuzzy re-inforcement welded onto the door skin and epoxy primed the door frame and the door skin where the weather stripping attaches .... figured I better get it now before it was bonded together.

Then I cleaned the frame and the skin and put on the 3M Bonding adhesive and got at bending the skin over the frame .... this was my first door skin and I was a little apprehensive about messing it up and then the pressure of only having 90 minutes with the adhesive.

Well the adhesive was setting up before I came back around to wipe it off, so I guess I'll have to sand it off and re-prime .... no biggy. The skin is sealed, protected from corrosion and bonded all in one step.

Pictures.....

http://imageshack.us/a/img6/3862/dugr.jpg
Welded the re-reinforcement and epoxy primed
http://imageshack.us/a/img407/5369/imlu.jpg
Epoxy primed the frame while the skin was off.
http://imageshack.us/a/img443/4311/syq5.jpg
Covering all bare metal on the skin w/ 3M adhesive.
http://imageshack.us/a/img716/245/h7pp.jpg
Door frame gets same w/ bead on outside edge.
http://imageshack.us/a/img401/554/kioe.jpg
This top corner was a PITA!
http://imageshack.us/a/img542/532/gi6n.jpg
Skin came out pretty even.

So ... one down, I'll have to bring the door into the house to cure cuz the temps will get down to the 50's tonight. Next door I won't use so much bonding adhesive .... seems to squeeze out after you start bending and there is plenty to spread around, oh well.

Thanks for looking ....

9/22
 

Well that big mess I made yesterday w/ the adhesive actually worked out in my favor ... a razor and some 80 grit wrapped around a paint stick and it sanded down pretty easy, like having seam sealer and bondo in one!

This picture is why I went with adhesive instead of the traditional crimp and welding .... the adhesive pushed up into the inside of the door frame where they meet, there is no way water is getting in between the frame and that door skin!
http://imageshack.us/a/img600/1269/wy4w.jpg
Looking down the driver's side door!

Didn't get to the pass side door cuz the temp wasn't warm enough ... that's another day.

You're making me want to reskin my perfectly good GM doors so I can make them turn out as well as yours'! Good job:cheers: