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gearheads78 10-29-2009 09:04 AM

Not sure how I have missed this one but WOW!!!

Your fab work is awsome. Can't wait to see more.

72novadriver 10-29-2009 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bentfab (Post 244214)
Billy,

I noticed in your second picture that your using regular steel braided -6 line coming out of the high pressure side on your power steering pump. CHANGE IT !!!! That hose isn't designed for power steering. You need to change it over to a steel braid teflon inner lined type hose. The regular steel braid is not designed for those types of pressures. The steel braid hose has about a 1300 psi working pressure. The spikes in pressure on the power steering system will cause it to burst in a short time and the heat it generates isn't good for it either.

Hope this helps.

Mark


Hey Mark, I appreciate the heads up. Probably saved me a mess :cheers:. That was the hose the hydraulic store recommended to me about a year ago for the application. I called them up, and the max working PSI for the hose is 1500 which your right its not going to be enough. Thanks again.

GregWeld 10-29-2009 09:23 AM

Billy -- You can use that kind of hose on the LOW PRESSURE side - ie., the return line from your canister but BENT is correct - you need TFE braided hose on the HIGH Pressure side - pump to rack....

From my experience - in case you haven't worked with the TFE stuff -- don't cut this with a cut off saw -- it MELTS the liner and you'll never get the hose put together. And ditto - if you try to use some type of "clamping" cut off... that squeezes the TFE and deforms it.

I have a circular saw - set up with a hose cutting jig (sold by XPS I think) the saw uses a blade that is toothless -- called a CIRCULAR KNIFE BLADE -- think about a meat cutters blade... and this blade slices through the braid and TFE liner without the heat or deformation. Maybe BENT can chime in here on a way to cut this stuff without the saw/jig investment??????

Something else - YOU might know about - but when I respond to threads like this - I write with the thought that others may be reading... Use SWIVEL fittings on this stuff... because when you tighten them - they'll try to twist your hose - and it makes it almost impossible then to route it the way you envisioned. With the swivel fittings - the hose can remain exactly how you intended.

Just my .00000005 worth.


:lateral: :woot:

ccracin 10-29-2009 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 244247)
Just my .00000005 worth.
:lateral: :woot:

Oh come on, your opinion is worth much more than that. At least .00000006! :rofl: Lots of good info on here these days. I love it!

tones2SS 10-29-2009 09:46 AM

Great work Billy.
Keep up the posts please.:thumbsup:

bentfab 10-29-2009 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72novadriver (Post 244245)
Hey Mark, I appreciate the heads up. Probably saved me a mess :cheers:. That was the hose the hydraulic store recommended to me about a year ago for the application. I called them up, and the max working PSI for the hose is 1500 which your right its not going to be enough. Thanks again.


No problem!! I tend to notice the small things.



Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 244247)
Billy -- You can use that kind of hose on the LOW PRESSURE side - ie., the return line from your canister but BENT is correct - you need TFE braided hose on the HIGH Pressure side - pump to rack....

From my experience - in case you haven't worked with the TFE stuff -- don't cut this with a cut off saw -- it MELTS the liner and you'll never get the hose put together. And ditto - if you try to use some type of "clamping" cut off... that squeezes the TFE and deforms it.

I have a circular saw - set up with a hose cutting jig (sold by XPS I think) the saw uses a blade that is toothless -- called a CIRCULAR KNIFE BLADE -- think about a meat cutters blade... and this blade slices through the braid and TFE liner without the heat or deformation. Maybe BENT can chime in here on a way to cut this stuff without the saw/jig investment??????

Something else - YOU might know about - but when I respond to threads like this - I write with the thought that others may be reading... Use SWIVEL fittings on this stuff... because when you tighten them - they'll try to twist your hose - and it makes it almost impossible then to route it the way you envisioned. With the swivel fittings - the hose can remain exactly how you intended.

Just my .00000005 worth.


:lateral: :woot:

Good pointers Greg. I actually use a cut off wheel. Just be slow and let the wheel do the cutting. Don't force it. The inner tube might melt a little but just clean it with a small blade or your finger nail. Make sure it's a good strait, square cut also.

They don't make a swivel teflon hose end that I'm aware of or ever seen in my experience. Instal one end and then loosely instal the other. Route your hose and screw the connections on. Take a marker and draw a line on the hose and on the fitting. Take it off and tighten it up in a vice and make sure your fitting and hose line up with the marker on the final tighten and you should have no problems. Teflon hose assem. are time consuming. So be patient and take your time.

Hope I made sense.

Mark

GregWeld 10-29-2009 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bentfab (Post 244295)
No problem!! I tend to notice the small things.





Good pointers Greg. I actually use a cut off wheel. Just be slow and let the wheel do the cutting. Don't force it. The inner tube might melt a little but just clean it with a small blade or your finger nail. Make sure it's a good strait, square cut also.

They don't make a swivel teflon hose end that I'm aware of or ever seen in my experience. Instal one end and then loosely instal the other. Route your hose and screw the connections on. Take a marker and draw a line on the hose and on the fitting. Take it off and tighten it up in a vice and make sure your fitting and hose line up with the marker on the final tighten and you should have no problems. Teflon hose assem. are time consuming. So be patient and take your time.

Hope I made sense.

Mark


Mark ---

I don't want to in any way say "see here" or that kind of thing - but I have a whole drawer full of PTFE Aeroquip SWIVEL fittings... so I HOPE I'M HELPING you both out here!!! Because they really make a lot of this SO MUCH EASIER!

Here's a link to the Aeroquip PDF catalog page with the PTFE hose ends that swivel -- they're plated - so I BUFF 'EM UP BEFORE I put them on the hose... and they stay nice a shiny!

http://www.hydraulic-supply.com/pdf/performance/40.pdf


:hail: :hail:

bentfab 10-29-2009 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 244332)
Mark ---

I don't want to in any way say "see here" or that kind of thing - but I have a whole drawer full of PTFE Aeroquip SWIVEL fittings... so I HOPE I'M HELPING you both out here!!! Because they really make a lot of this SO MUCH EASIER!

Here's a link to the Aeroquip PDF catalog page with the PTFE hose ends that swivel -- they're plated - so I BUFF 'EM UP BEFORE I put them on the hose... and they stay nice a shiny!

http://www.hydraulic-supply.com/pdf/performance/40.pdf


:hail: :hail:



Mis-under standing. When you referred to swivel hose end I thought you ment a live swivel like 45's, 90's on steel braided lines. Which means it can move once it's assembled. All the teflon hose ends 45's and 90's are non swivel. Which means once it's assembled in it's fixed position the angle doesn't change.

Example: two 90 degree ends. One end is assembled and angled down in the 6 o'clock position. If the other end is tightened down in the 9 o'clock position those two angles never change.

If they were live swivels on both ends then they will turn 360 degrees for ever.

Don't forget all hose ends swivel or you could only tighten one end.

These discussions are always good. It helps everyone become smarter.

Thanks Mark

72novadriver 12-05-2009 08:49 AM

update
 
Heres a few pics of some recent progress.




http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k.../DSC033901.jpg

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k.../DSC033941.jpg

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k...r/DSC03395.jpg

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k.../DSC034071.jpg

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k.../DSC034091.jpg

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k.../DSC034111.jpg

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k.../DSC034121.jpg

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k.../DSC034131.jpg

gracin7 12-05-2009 09:44 AM

Killer fab work,like this project alot!!!


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