In my eyes, the road ralley doesn't test these cars. It may be a good litmus test for a drag car, not for a road racer. You could drive a sprint cup car from Vegas to Pahrump if it had a full tank. Road racers can take extreme temperature and torture. I don't think it should be done away with, I just don't think it's a way to sift out the race cars. If they want to do that, they will need to come up with standards that each car must meet. If you can get it registered at the DMV, it's hard for me to say it's not a street car regardless.

We should be happy there is a show to put our pony in...... Whatever rules they make is a OK with me. I will go back and say that it's unlikely any vintage car will take out a modern Z06, Viper, Porsche with a reasonable driver. It is the Ulimtate street car, not, lets handicap it so a muscle car can win. I always like to compare myself to modern cars when I race. It's fun to take down a viper, vette, gtr, etc...

I've been reading this thread and all I've got to say is that I'm still kicking myself in the ass for having two tickets and not making it out there this year. :lolhit:

I am a friend on Danny's and have seen the Z06 up close. I have seen that car from it's first time on the track as bone stock as GM made it to what it is today.

I just wanted to clear the air on the Z06. It's not much more than a modded street car and could be replicated in a couple of weeks with another stock car and about 25k in parts + labor. It would seem that the intent of SEMA is to showcase aftermarket parts. This car is exactly that. There is not one part on this car that can not be ordered by telephone today.

I do see the point of the newer cars vs old older cars in the same competition. I do not have the answer on how that can be equalled. Maybe there needs to be a split class by year? Older that 1985 go to the historic class, newer than 1986 run in the modern class. Also make the modern class open. No restrictions as far as tires, body, etc.

I think the "show" portion of the event is very biased toward the older cars. Is the scoring for this section public knowledge?

I mostly wanted to say thanks to a bunch of people for allowing me to beat my car mercilessly, but I have to chime in on a couple items I see here.

I am extremely grateful to even be considered of the caliber to be involved in this event. I volunteered two years ago and see that it has grown significantly more competitive since then. These cars are built to be monsters on the street and the track so making a set of rules to govern such a diverse group of cars will be very difficult.

I really liked the road rally and was disappointed that some people blew it off. I was even more disappointed it had such a low point value. It seems that the usability of the car would be a prominent feature of a "street car". It ought to be a bigger part of the competition.

I absolutely had a blast on the road course. I think the warm up laps and seperate three timed laps are a great way to rank the field. I was still learning the course on the third lap, but if I wished to be more competitive I should have scheduled a track day. The only gripe I could offer is track temp and condition. Cold tracks suck. People who ran in the afternoon had a stickier track to run on. I don't think there is a fix for that. That is part of racing.

The autocross was fantastic. The design was magnificent. I've had several dreams since then with the throttle pegged and smoke pouring off the 335's on the 180. The morning guys had to deal with puddles. Again probably no way to fix it.

The design challenge is another area to seperate the street stuff from the race stuff. Maybe we should offer points for street accessories like cup holders, real seats with lumbar and recline features, audio/video systems and garage door openers. Cars with change in the ash tray get 100 points. Starbucks receipts crumpled under the seats 50 points. French fries stuck in seatbelt receptacle 20 points.

I was bested in overall rank by cars that did not compete in all facets of the competition. That should not happen.

My thanks list in no particular order: Mike and Wilwood for finding a set of brakes for my pig and making it possible for me to be at SEMA, Cam and Optima for giving me a chance to play with the big boys at OUSCI, Jimi and FM3 for such a kick ass event, Kris at Sierra NV paint for getting a fresh coat on with two days to spare and all my dudes at ivmotorsports for helping me deal with all the normal issues that happen right before trying to race.

Can we get a link to your car ?

He's got the killer fat fendered AKA: Widebody VOLVO.... Which was so much fun to watch out there!

A little info on the winning vette;

http://powersource.optimabatteries.c...ning-corvette/

Awesome car, awesome driver. Hard to beat combo!

From that article: "Danny’s driving ability is certainly on par with that of any of his fellow OUSCI competitors.."

Only on par? :lol:

I'm not really understanding the new vs. old debate with this competition. Are people really upset that a late model Z06 won the event, beating out '69 Camaros with clean-sheet modern suspensions, ZR-1 engines and brakes, ABS, and whatever else the builder is capable of building? In my mind, there is no new vs. old in this competition. You could bring an IMSA GT2-chassied '69 Camaro if you were so inclined. I'm not debating that it's difficult to engineer and build a car that's more capable than a modern factory-engineered supercar. But this is a competition with very little rules or structure on what's allowed. The best driver with the best tool wins. Period.