I am not a bike rider
 

and think the bike rack is cool as it gets.

I agree! Well done man.

I thought you were using your stock spindles? I talked with ride tech recently and they didn't recomend using a drop spindle with their front suspension for Gen 2.

Ah, not sure how I've missed this thread but I found it now.. Looks awesome Marty.. love the bike rack.

and they were right. The car sits way to low.

Stock modified spindles are going back under the car.

Thanks Tony

This thread has been way to quiet!
Whats going on Marty?

Mike

really like what you are doing with this 2nd gen!

rear suspension
 

Thanks for always keeping us updated with your build. Its quite an amazing car. Unique, simple but not over the top with fabrication.
What made you choose the Ride tech 4 link verses a Watts link? As far as it being a car with a budget in mind it seems like the watts link was the less costly option and still a proven design? Im still learning about a watts link setup and everything else that goes along with it and picking between those two options right now.

Thanks for taking the time to submit the bike rack details. Really original idea and well executed. Just cool to see something unexpected like that !

Scott

Are you wanting to do leaf springs and a watts link? I can't imagine that a watts setup plus aftermarket springs would be much cheaper than a ride tech four link. You also have to think about the leaf spring mods you would have to do for a mini tub and 335 tires and in my mind the four link seems pretty obvious. Also, you get some options for adjustability.

I am unsure right now about what I would like for the rear suspension. I have time so I am trying to figure the plan out for it. a 295 or 315 is fine for me. Wide is awesome but not the most cost effective for something I intend to drive often. Fays watts link is only $650. new set of leaf springs and decent shocks maybe a couple hundred more. If i was going to try and tuck a 335 ya offset shackles and deep tub would be needed and costs go up. My room mates TA has 315 and he just rolled the fender lip. Rear quarters are almost identical. The watts link can be added to most suspension setups. A watts link can be added to the 4 link setup as long as it does not conflict with range of motion for the 4 link or mounting for it. There are several watts link setups that include coil overs, TQ arms and links. BMR is one of them and there are a couple others out there that have a watts link added to their style suspension. I understand going with one company for front and rear suspension and Ride Tech is a great choice with amazing support team and customer service. I'm just curious for a budget build why not a watts link and off set leaf spring shackles to accommodate tire size wanted? If it was considered if there was a deciding factor behind picking one over the other.

Thanks for the compliments on the build guys I really appreciate it.

As for why I choose the ride-tech rear set up.

There are some pretty simple reasons.

My goal was to have a 285 or 295 rear tire on the car with one day a matching front tire. If I choose the leaf springs the tire would be really close to the springs and very close to the outer fender lip and I didn't like either of those options.

I actually had purchased a set of mini-tubs from DSE and a set of used DSE leaf springs from a board members but DSE would not sell me the offset spring perch mount even after I begged them to sell them to me. Long story short the springs went into the scrap metal can so they didn't end up in a land fill.

So keeping with the do it yourself at home theory. I made a call to the guys at Ride-Tech and said I wanted the car to sit lower then stock and have some adjustability for spring rate and ride quality. There kit is pretty much bolt in with minor welding and the best bang for the buck.

I was able to do 95% in my garage with my 11 year old daughters help and I only needed the axle brackets welded on. I think I was charged 90 minutes of shop rate to have the kit welded in and that included setting the pinion angle.

Now if you compare it to the Quadra-Link (which is awesome and proven) most shop estimate between 40 to 45 hours on the install and if you don't have a welder / fab skills that is a huge chunk of money as most shops charge between 60 & 85 dollars an hour. (( $2400.00 -- $3400.00 ))

For me the goal with this project is prove to myself I could build a very capable car and save a boatload of cash doing. Spend money where it was going to make an impact and save money and for me Time.

As you kids get older you don't have 5 hours every night to go out to the garage to work on the car and in most case with the RideTech coilover kits you can take you car apart in the morning and be back on the rode by lunch time.

In the end Customer Service, Quality Parts and Proven combinations is what made me choose RideTech. Plus there all pretty darn nice !!:topic:

I did not see the offset links as an option on their web site. Is it something from the catalogue or requested?

You need to ask for them

Thanks for the info. Can't wait to see the build complete and how it performs.

Been talking with ride tech. The offset ones are their standard for this kit now.

As a Ride Tech Dealer I can't wait to see their new improved A-arms come out.And I also want to say to Marty,Enough already let's get this THING!!!! finished up.lol.Pretty soon this thread will be as long as Payback!!!:ohsnap:

OMG! Say it's not so!!! :D

Who makes the three finger wheel tool you used?

What modification did you end up doing to the back seat and area because of the deep tubs?

The Good Guys at JCG Restoration

http://jcgrestorationandcustoms.com/

Really nice guys

2nd Chance Camaro - Heading to Kenny Davis Hot Rods
2013 05-08 2nd Chance Camaro - Heading to Kenny Davis Hot Rods
www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Morning,

The car is finally leaving for Kenny's.

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Kenny was kind enough to pick up the car for me so I didn't have to drive it to Arkansas

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Good Guys Columbus here we come.

ps - Kenny I want my GTO rollers back.

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Marty there is no way Kenny can get this painted,and assem.by July.!!!!!!!!:stirthepot:

Car looks awesome Marty!! :cheers:

with Marty's pockets? :G-Dub: :G-Dub:

LOL. Car looks sweet! :thumbsup:

You are assuming that Marty is being truthful that he just sent his Camaro to Kenny. Knowing Marty, Kenny has had the car for several months!!!!

Either way, I'm sure Kenny will put his entire staff on this project to have it completed by the Columbus Good-Guys Show..... 2013, right?????


--ET

Yes the cars has been at Kenny's for some time now and it happens to be at his new Body Shop as we speak. So it's getting really close. I am hoping to be caught up on posts in the next 4 weeks.

now if I could just get the Carbon Fiber bumbers finished I will be really happy.

ps - ye have little faith in Kenny.

Ha it's my wife that has all the money. The good thing about this car is it's being built to be a driver first then one day it will mature / morph into a GG Street machine contender.

I want a car that will be fun to drive and take to the Mountain Bike trails and some of the entrance roads are stone & dirt.

Nice to see it coming along.

You gonna paint a bike to match just for the heck of it?

I just tricked out an older Trek hardtail, and when it was done i was like, "ewe". didnt quite come out like i'd hoped.

I missed it, did you go auto or manual? When i'm done after a 3 hour loop (and its been since last year, before my surgery) the last thing i want/need is more left leg work outs. But i put a T56 in mine. I will have bike mounts, just dont know where yet. I'm working on some trunk lid ideas, with the handle bars facing forward, parallel to the car.....

Mike

clear bra the rockers :lol:

The car is Satin Blue from the Audi R8 with subtle Carbon Accents. The goal is not to be flashy and as a plus I won't have to wax it. Just run it through the touchless car wash a couple times a week. Just call me lazy.

Version 1 Tranny is 700r4
Version 2 Tranny is going to be a 4l60e with a Twist machine Paddle shift set up. ( already own it and can't wait to put it in down the road )

I have the billet pedal assembly to run a manual trans but I want a nice cruiser right now so Auto magic it is.

There are two bikes for the car.

Bike 1 is a Trek Ticket (Show Bike)
the bike is Silver with Blue Accents ( it's pretty bitchen looking)

Bike 2 is a Jamis Dakar 650b Pro
with Red Industry9 Torch Hubs & there new Trail Rims, Race Face bars, stem, seat post, cranks and a SRAM drivetrain.
this has become my new go to bike and I want it with me so I can ride after a Good-Guys Show.

Great Idea

Looking forward to seeing your car done Marty! Maybe I will make it to Columbus to see it,,

Thanks Chris.

I will even buy you dinner if you make it.

With the DSE deep tubs what modifications did you have to do to keep the back seat usable? Or did the interior not get affected too much?

Narrowed the rear seat bottom and added some to the plastic interior panels

2nd Chance Camaro - Moser "C" Clip Eliminator with Kore3 Brakes
2013 05-08 2nd Chance Camaro - Moser "C" Clip Eliminator with Kore3 Brakes
www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Morning all,

Prior to the car leaving for Kenny's Dennis at High Speed Welding installed the Moser "C" Clip eliminator kit on the rear Axle. He had
to modify the Kore3 bracket for the kit to work. But it worked and it's ready to go.

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I can't wait to have both cars at home again

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Marty,

Slight off-topic question: How is your garage floor coating hold up with all of the work you are doing?


--Eric