:thankyou: I knew how I wanted the door finished .... just never done a door skin before, so with some patience and a second AMD door skin, 3M bonding adhesive, Lizard Skin Sound Control, POR 15 and some Finish One epoxy primer we have one finished door! :lol:

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/8479/qd8y.jpg
FLASHBACK .... ouch!
http://imageshack.us/a/img571/174/u2we.jpg
MO BETTER ... some detail sanding left.

Working on the pass door .... hopefully it'll warm up some, 38 this morning should be 60? Thanks for looking ....

:gitrdun: Got-R-Did!

Good Garage Day!
 

Got-R-Did the passenger door has a skin permanently attached! A good garage day fer sure, got the window fuzzy re-inforcement welded to the skin, epoxy primed that and the opposite side of the frame, broke out the 3M adhesive and got the skin on the frame.

http://imageshack.us/a/img855/7558/8n1z.jpg
Welded the window channel to the skin.
http://imageshack.us/a/img208/6246/mdui.jpg
Epoxy primed before the skin goes on.
http://imageshack.us/a/img202/9216/ua6y.jpg
Got 3M on all surfaces .... now the work begins!
http://imageshack.us/a/img690/5639/93e4.jpg
DONE!

Man I'm glad this isn't a 4 door .... I have to bring the door in the house to cure over night, I'll sand some other day. Trying to get things that need "ABOVE 70 DEGREES" cuz it's not going to be that warm much longer here.

Thanks for looking ....

This probably going to be one of the best reassem. 1st gen gen's out there.Really going the extra mile.:trophy-1302:

Thank you .... most of the details will be over looked by the average Joe, but I know it was done correctly! Maybe my car would be worthy of one of your sub-frames someday? It's not in the budget right now, but .....

It looks great Chief. I was just reading about door skin replacement in Chevy Hp .

Thanks
 

:thankyou: Hey Wayne ... in your reading there, am I doing this right? :D

agreed, great job at the detail.

:thankyou: :thankyou: that means lot to me! I know what I need to do to make it better than GM and with all the great ideas on this forum I just keep moving forward.

I saw Craig's door re-skin in Chevy HP .... nice article, he's the genuine body man alright! But I know my bonded re-skin will keep out water from between the frame and the skin, Craig's method is no better than GM .... time warp into 2013 maybe?

you sure are doing things better than GM,great work so far:thumbsup:

How about if I make you a special good guy deal.Call me next week.:thumbsup:

Git-N-R Dun
 

:thankyou: Wished they had done a better job the first time .... cuz I wouldn't have to do all this damn work. Thanks for the compliment, still a long way to go!

You must be at the GG in Texas .... I am jealous. My sister lives nearby in Keller, yeah I'm jealous. I'm on the road next week, I'll find time during the day, working nights on the reservoir.

Another good garage day ..... got the garage heated up and the skins all sanded down, looks presentable now. Couldn't spray epoxy today too cold so I installed my new driver's side door latch and hung the door.

Came out pretty close for an aftermarket skin, fiddled with the hinges, placed paint sticks (3/16) in door sill for reference and tightened all down.
The rear bottom corner is a little tight, but I think I can adjust that out :thumbsup:
Now if my AMD quarter will ever get here I will have a reference with the door and can proceed from there.

Here's some pictures ....

http://imageshack.us/a/img689/4736/4bo8.jpg
Both doors sanded down and ready for some epoxy!

http://imageshack.us/a/img812/4927/3qjq.jpg
Lining up the door!

http://imageshack.us/a/img12/3444/bvnf.jpg
About as close as I can get them :thumbsup:

http://imageshack.us/a/img824/1443/wl8h.jpg
Fits better than I thought it would :ohsnap:

Well, that's what I did today .... hopefully I can get the passenger side door hung and it fits this nice (crossed fingers). Gotta keep plugging away !!!!

Thanks for looking .....

Excellent work! What epoxy primer are you using?

:thankyou: Jeremy ..... was thinking about your alignment issues when I said to myself "I can't be this close already" She's getting there. I'll see how the pass side goes today, need to get the garage warmed up first .... we've already had SNOW!

I am using Finish One epoxy primer, I get it at Napa cuz it's cheaper than the Sherwin Williams Automotive paint place here in town. Figure if it's good enough for Pete Jackson's car (of Barrett Jackson) it's good enough for little ol me!

I wouldn't be too worried about any alignment issues. Now that you are aware of the severity of panel alignment from seeing my experiences, I feel you'll be able to have everything where you need/want it with a little tweaking. It's good that you are cognizant of the issue this early in the stage though. I think that will work in your favor:)

I'm sure that epoxy is plenty good. The reason I asked was I'm switching from the Dupont epoxy I had been using and going to HOK epoxy. The HOK epoxy is about the same color as what you are using. Does your's mix A/B with a 1:1 ratio or does it have a catalyst that it mixes with? The dupont I've been using has a nice sheen, which gives you the ability to see imperfections in the body and is tough as nails, but their catalyst has no shelf life.

Jeremy ....messed w/ passenger side door yesterday, it didn't go as nice as the drivers side, go figure. I'll post some pixs later today, maybe the fra.... is bent?, I didn't want to say that out loud, but something is tweaked.:bang: :bang:

Anyway, the Finish One mixes 1:1 and is a very nice epoxy from what I know so far, the car will get sanded and another coat of epoxy and then the primer coat starts.

Passenger Door
 

is seeing it my way , felt like a chiropractor today .... tweaking the passenger side door to line up with the body! Hold the top and push the bottom in, move over a couple inches and repeat as necessary until body lines up :popcorn2: The door frame must have been tweaked ... my body man said to line up the door front rocker and the back top and start tweaking and she'll come in, I got er within 3/16 by myself and now I'll need some help to get the rest out ....

Here's some pictures .... is this the most ugly door gap you've ever seen? Not even GAP SPRAY can fix this :disgusted:

http://imageshack.us/a/img820/9815/rktg.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img18/5853/rk02.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img23/9425/tdk8.jpg


Anyway .... if anyone has any ideas please chime in, I don't want to reskin this dang door!

Thanks for looking...

follow this Jeff Lilly gap detailing page he welds in some metal on the door edge and then trims it back to the perfect edge

When Dan@Holohan's replaced my door skin it was as bad or worse than that. He added metal to the door edge like was mentioned. Nice clean gaps now :-)

Yup, welding rod or thick coat hanger welded to the door edge will get you there with a little finesse grinding.

Sent you an email with the instructions for cutting out your dash to accept the factory vents

Let there be LIGHT
 

3400 lumens to be exact!!!! OK, this isn't my Camaro but I did have to use a crimping tool that I bought for the Camaro to do Weatherpak connection to get my new LED headlight wired onto my XR650R (that's my other addition :thumbsup: ) See the street legal kit only had a H4 55w light and it sucked so .... go big or go home, how about 3400 lumens outa of 4 leds that only measure 3X3" ? That's what I said!!!! So I had to go for a ride around the reservoir, little chilly here after the sun goes down, man what a difference .... 3400 lumens is a lot of light:headspin:

So, my driver's side quarter came in but I had to get the bike put back together to get that project done and outa the way for the camaro .... weekend work :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Pictures .....

http://imageshack.us/a/img546/4628/xr5f.jpg
Now I can do all the pins I need on the Camaro too :thumbsup:
http://imageshack.us/a/img18/5111/gqy7.jpg
3400 Lumens outa a 3"X3", that's awesome!!!!
http://imageshack.us/a/img62/8023/yuux.jpg
Can you say ... light for close to 300' ?
http://imageshack.us/a/img692/5209/mxly.jpg
Someone has a degree in Origami to package this!!!

Anyway, bike is done for now .... time to look over that quarter panel tomorrow!

Thanks for looking ......

Are you replacing both quarters or just the driver's side?

The light looks cool:thumbsup:

AMD quarter not up to the task!!!!
 

I am replacing both quarters .... as soon as I get a quarter that resembles the quarter that's on my car, which the AMD quarter does not!!!!!!

The outside quarter channel doesn't match OEM (5/8"), actually decreases in width from front to back. :disgusted:

http://imageshack.us/a/img513/5730/4ll1.jpg
This is my GM quarter still on the car, notice the quarter channel!
http://imageshack.us/a/img707/3792/rau1.jpg
The very front is close ....
http://imageshack.us/a/img850/9320/z0my.jpg
This is the middle ...
http://imageshack.us/a/img23/7602/jazk.jpg
Back by the window.
http://imageshack.us/a/img202/2517/vb91.jpg
My car's stamping in door jamb!
http://imageshack.us/a/img820/7863/ivev.jpg
One of these doesn't look like the other!

I have other pictures of this quarter on ImageShack that make me cringe ..... am I asking too much of this quarter panel? of this industry? Can someone make a quarter that looks like a 67 Camaro driver's side quarter, please call me!

Nice! Who is this lamp from? One of my riding buddies has a 650R and has been complaining about his headlight.

I measured my driver's side quarter and I get a consistent 5/8" all the way from the front to the back. That's with taking a tape measure and measuring to where the outside of the quarter starts to make the bend. If you want to keep that quarter, then I'd slice it right down the middle from front to rear and make it a consistent measurement, matching your factory quarter width.

As for the door jamb, what build date is your car? I know that my quarters are NOS 67 coupe quarters, but they are later build quarters. It's my understanding that the 67's had the full telephone receiver in the early run, but that switched to what the reproduction has later in the build year. My NOS quarters have the same jamb stamping as your reproduction. My original quarters looked just like your original quarters, so I wouldn't stress much on the difference in the stampings there.

Carl ... this is a Baja Designs Squadron Led Race light, read not DOT. I will ride on the street until someone stops me, I would rather be seen than pulled out in front of, been there twice now.... not fun!

Jeremy ... I measured my NOS quarter and I get a consistent 5/8" also, this AMD starts just at 5/8" and tapers to 3/8" back by the window, that's crap stamping. The other option is to keep my window lip and cut in the AMD under that .... what APITA!

Did you look at my ImageShack page at the other spot that is messed up? Top of the door jamb where the windlace meets, think forward weather strip for the quarter glass just below the window channel????? Messed up!!!!!

My Camaro is an early Jan 67 so that would make sense with the stamp shape on the jamb, didn't know there was a difference, thanks.

I haven't even got to the trunk area yet, or the tail pan ..... waiting on the AMD rep to come and look at this quarter!

Thanks! I saw it was a Baja Designs enclosure but wasn't sure if they made the lamp too. We can get away with a fair amount on the dual sports in California. As long as you don't ride like an idiot in town, that is.

I see a little bit of metal missing in the jamb where the windlace meets, but other than that, I don't really see anything wrong with the AMD quarter there. I'm not there to see them in person, so its difficult to tell. I'm aware of the problems with the quarters not fitting well in the trunk channel and around the tail panel, but don't recall ever hearing anything about poor fitment in the door jamb area.

It's good you have an AMD rep in your area that can come by there and check out the problems in person. Hopefully, they will get your problems taken care of.

With my experience, nothing fits the car like the original part did. That's even with NOS parts. I've had to modify every panel on my car to get a better fitment and that even includes the original panels I removed from the car!

The answer is
 

they are all like that!!! AMD says the 67 quarters in house have the same taper in them as the one I have here :headscratch: Great .... you'd think someone would QA the stampings every now and then, say every 50 quarter panels?

Has anyone had better luck with another vendors quarter panels for a 67 Camaro?

Please chime in ....

Maybe search or ask around on Team Camaros about different brand quarters fitment. Getting technical questions answered here seems to be hit-or-miss.

I would be more inclined to fix the problem with the AMD quarter you have, but that's just me:)

I think you will find there are issues with almost every repo quarter out there... I guess it is the nature of the beast when dealing with these Taiwan stamped out parts. Kind of a pick your poison, for it seems that you may find a quarter that fits a certain area better, but then is worse in another!:bang:

I know I didn't like my driver side quarter panel fitment... until I ordered another one and that one made the first one look great! :wacko:

I won't bother with them. I know that is the correct answer also ... just makes me angry :bur2: that the industry can get away with stamping crap or I can do without!

I'll make due ... just another delay with aftermarket parts fitting like crap :bang: :bang:

What happened to a company taking pride in their quality parts? You call AMD and listen to them brag about how their 67-69 quarter panels fitting better than anyone other company .... it's their hold message :headscratch:

I know what you're stepping in .... what company did you end up with your quarters? How was the window channel?

I know you have a conv, on the coupe GM has a 5/8" and the AMD came with a taper cuz the stamp is crap .... so I will have to use my channel and splice the quarter into it and whatever else fits like crap.

Your car is looking very sharp by the way, I like your string idea. Are those AMD doors? How's the lines?

Keep up the good work ....

Cutting up
 

a driver's quarter today .... good garage day! Left the jamb area and the window channel .... thinking I might use them both, the channel fer sure, need to clean up the surface rust and get some epoxy on the undersides.

I think I will try and save my jamb area and reuse most of it, it's gotta come off gently and epoxy everything underneath .... heck the door fits this quarter better than the AMD one anyhow!

At least I have full access to the mini tubs now!!!!!

QUESTION: What is everyone else doing with the tail pan area of the quarter panel? It is supposed to tuck in under the tail pan and then the tail pan gets welded on, right? That's the way it looks like on my car. How can I even check the quarter for fitment with the flange in the way? I really don't want to take the tail pan off just to get quarters on .... even thou that's the correct answer :headspin:

Pictures ...

http://imageshack.us/a/img11/8023/vxxz.jpg
Got most the quarter off today!
http://imageshack.us/a/img542/1123/pof8.jpg
Rust under the window channel :bur2: at least it's parallel. AMD is NOT!!!!
http://imageshack.us/a/img407/1496/9i1a.jpg
Working on the tail panel .... cleaned up pretty good!
http://imageshack.us/a/img546/2652/ssfl.jpg
You can see rust in front of the door jamb .... got to come off...... grrrr!!

Thanks for looking ....

Looks like you still have a section of the old quarter at the bottom of the tail panel still attached. What about cutting this same section off of the new quarter and welding the new to the old right at that seam? That is how I did my quarters at the roof seam. What I did on the tail panel area you are inquiring about is I cut off the lip from the quarter in that section and left just a little bit of it at the bottom and then the area that tucks behind the tail panel at the bumper line. Between those areas I have just a seam.

Jeremy ...that's what I thought you'd say, I left a little there but it's got rust from water sitting in the back of the quarter. I POR'd it awhile ago but I don't know if there is enough to weld to without blowing through!

Have I become that predictable?:)

Ok, one other thought: what about taking a piece of scrap sheetmetal cut at about 1/2" wide at the length of the area in discussion and attach it to the back of the old quarter or the new quarter? This way, you'd have a backer to keep from getting blow-through. I'm not sure, though, if there is enough room to make that happen. If there is, it may be a viable option.

I would just drill the spot welds needed to remove the little bit of the old quarter, and then tuck then new panel in it's proper place.:superhack:

Update 9/10
 

Got the jamb off, what APITA! I'm glad I got to the back of jamb .... seems there was a little critter house and RUST, grrrrr!

Got the quarter panel out from behind the tail pan, not too bad! I braced my window channel with some angle and commenced cutting that jamb off, cleaned it up some but will require some more attention and some POR15. Only thing left of the old quarter is the drip rail and where she's welded to the car under the roof line.

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/15/98c3.jpg
Drilled out the spot welds and got the quarter from behind the tail pan.
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/191/0ejg.jpg
Overall not too bad .... sure couldn't leave it that way, could you?
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/39/beoz.jpg
The back side ... this would keep rusting of course!!
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/69/6rzb.jpg
Little bit of TLC ... more time and some POR15 and she'll be good:thumbsup:

Good garage day for sure, made a big mess, no one bothered me and I got some progress on the quarter. Hopefully I can get the last remaining quarter parts off and start addressing my window channel and check fitment tomorrow.

Thank a Veteran and have a good day tomorrow!!!!

Looks good Chief!

On my car, when I removed the original quarter, the door jamb brace nearly fell off of the car. The factory spot welds did not take very well. I had to reweld mine. Check and make sure yours is welded in place well.