Neil, it comes down to pyhsics. You can rework a Camaro forever and it will NEVER out perform modern engineering. It's simply to top heavy, nose heavy, and heavy. :unibrow:

Dude -- Get yourself some balsa wood and do a cored laminate floor next time... some lexan windshield and back glass... take them stupid windows out of the doors... and the headliner while you're at it... Dump the A/C -- you won't need that with no side windows... Can't hear the stereo with those big dumps, so it can go... and nobody is climbing in over the roll cage to the back seat - so you can dump that too....

EEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAA


Oh wait -- I just went out and looked at the track car.... seems somebody already thought about all that! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


On a serious note -- the drag coefficient of the Corvette has to be about HALF of what some of those cars were pushing...

I've been saying ever since wheeling them around Bondurant and Spring Mountain --- "that Corvette is about the best car a guy could buy - it's a BARGAIN given what we spend to make our cars HALF as fast or brake half as well...." All that and the A/C blows cold!

One way to beat a modern Corvette is to do like my car... and my car weighs almost 3200 lbs. I do have 200 lbs of lead added to the rear for balance and the minimum weight for SCCA autocross. I have been kicking myself since Sunday. Danny and Mark had 80 points to my 72. If I would have gone just .5 seconds faster on the road course and improved my brake challenge by .2 seconds, I would have won. The woulda shoulda coulda can be played all day long. I did not my best at the time and I know what to do next time. I am sure everyone else could say the same thing also. But my point is, the Raybestos Performance Design Challenge does make up a lot of ground. I got 18 points for 4th place and Danny got 0. Next year, he will have to make some major changes to get those points. He probably will do something.

HAHAHAHAHA Oh man, Brian! Now you're getting to be like Mark Stielow! He spent a bunch of time just working on the StopTech challenge = back when it was set up to use the G meters(?) -- you had a speed to reach before you could hit the brakes..... So he worked on all manor of stuff to get that down --- THEN they changed the event! :lol:

Add some ABS to the car..... That seems to really really work well for that type of event!

if you would have won you'd really be catching a shiz storm for not having windows!:D

Oh, I know. :yes: That would have been the reason I won. :unibrow:

Danny and Mark were the class of the competition. We will see if I get a rematch.

Windows Shmindows!!

I'm pretty darn sure you are going to make a point of getting a rematch and who the hell would not want to see you run again anyways!!

Your car belongs at these events!!

I must say though, big props to Mark for running a 3600 lb car as well as he did.

I helped Mark wrench on Devil at VIR, when he had some problems. The thing that really suprized me about the car is how mild manored, and stock it seems. Starts, idles, and drives like a new car, but yet its a beast. Shows you how well engineered it is, and what a good driver Mark really is. Ron

Hell Mark, Danny, Brian, Mary or Brian,,,,, they all did a great job out there and all their cars where awesome... This is kind of fun splitting hairs on who did what,,, all 51 cars where pretty much exceptional and the drivers & cars at the top of the pack are truly awesome see ... Congrats to you all...

Wow 16 pages on OUSCI!!
Not surprisingly, an impressive response
RideTech has been a sponsor of the OUSCI since its inception in 2008. I’ve been a hotrodder since around 1976. My opinions here are both professional and personal [and some are the same!]
Professionally:
RideTech builds suspension systems and components for street cars whose owners want to drive in an aggressive manner and feel as comfortable as if they were driving a new corvette. I consider the C5 and C6 Corvette to be a feasible benchmark to shoot for when evaluating the success of our suspension components. The OUSCI [as well as the RTT events and the Goodguys event is where we get to publicly and tangibly demonstrate our wares.
I think we’ve succeeded.
We’ve ALWAYS brought cars that were built with off the shelf parts, in a manner that MOST of our customers could subscribe to. The Warpig 66 Chevelle, The Velocity 68 Camaro, and now the 48 Hour Camaro had all run well and represented our company and our suspension systems well. I LOVE being able to directly compare our cars to the state of the art vehicles in any genre…tuner, exotic, late model, racecar or not. I can go down that list and mentally compare each car and it’s build level to our stuff and decide if we have succeeded or not. I believe that MOST customers are doing the same thing. They understand that a 67 Camaro with an OEM subframe and a 550 hp motor with an amateur driver of medium talent probably will not be able to beat a nicely prepped Z06 with a VERY talented driver on a road course. They get it. AND they respond by buying enough of our products to allow us to do this all over again next year. THAT is why RideTech continues to sponsor, promote, and participate in OUSCI, and all the rest of the dynamic driving events throughout the year.

Personally:
As a hotrodder…man I want to WIN this thing someday! I went 5 seconds faster this year than last year on the road course and dropped from 9th to 22nd! So, what am I going to do?
Build a faster car, of course!
Beyond that…re-read my professional comments above. I can’t think of a better overall event than OUSCI. The fact that there are 16 pages of commentary on this event shows that is has rung a bell with everybody regardless of position or opinion. There wasn’t one car there that I thought was out of place. I LOVE seeing how my junk stacks up against the various “exotica” and crave the opportunity to do so again next year.

Some people don’t think much of the “design” portion of the event…they think a “car show” element doesn’t belong in a “race”. Two things to remember about that: Beyond the fact that this is not a real race, If it weren’t for the design portion of the event it would have become overrun with racecars immediately. The second thing is that recalculating the scores without the design element didn’t change a whole lot. I guess my definition of “a whole lot” might be different from someone who might have moved up in the standings more than I would have, but since this is my rant I have not bothered to consider anyone else’s definition

One element I would like to add for next year: The fastest road course driver gets to take the design judge’s car around the track for 3 laps.

Here is one serious thing I would like to see for 2012: Spectators. Can you imagine playing the superbowl in an empty stadium? Spring Mountain is NOT very conducive to spectators, but there are a lot of venues that are. I’d sure like to explore that avenue. If a NASCAR race can bring in 150,000 people to Las Vegas Motor Speedway, couldn’t OUSCI bring in 10% of that?
OK...on to next year!