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Shmoov69 12-19-2012 04:40 PM

Just out of curiosity, what happened to the wire reinforced glass that schools used to have when I was a kid? That would have slowed thing a bit!

And the whole tax thing is good in theory, but when was the last time the govt actually stuck to a good idea and didn't totally screw it up with tons of bacon?!!':question:

GregWeld 12-19-2012 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 452599)
Excellent ideas, I'm for it however. I hope it doesn't turn into another gov piggy bank for them to use as they wish. Stealing from Peter to pay Paul isn't going to fly. Greg can you see if you can call Biden. I'm sure there are many ideas we can give him since he only has a few weeks to come up with a plan.



I sent my idea - exactly as I posted here - to BOTH the Senators from Washington (Murray and Cantwell) and to the White House -- via their on line "contacts" forms. The White House contact page is not separated for Biden vs Obama...

GregWeld 12-19-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Shmoov69 (Post 452612)
Just out of curiosity, what happened to the wire reinforced glass that schools used to have when I was a kid? That would have slowed thing a bit!


That's "safety glass" not security glass... that stuff was used so you didn't kick a ball through the glass accidentally and shatter it. Dude! How long has it been since you were in school??? :lol: The world is advancing we now have laminated glass... :woot:

Shmoov69 12-19-2012 05:34 PM

LoL!! Well, I knew you couldn't just walk thru it. It was a PITA to "knock out" for sure!!

GregWeld 12-19-2012 05:55 PM

Here's another thing I find "disturbing"... and every time I go to the range/gun shop -- there's a case full of these... I've always "questioned" (silently <pun> to myself) why would anyone need something like this? For what purpose? Ranges are noisy places -- we're already REQUIRED to wear eyes and ears... so it's certainly not to protect my ears from loud noises, is it.

YET --- We know why! TAXES!! For a $200 "Tax stamp" -- ordinary people can buy Silencers...


Can I own a silencer?

Silencers have never been illegal under federal law; they have only been regulated and taxed. This means that if your state doesn’t prohibit ownership of silencers, you can probably buy one. Here are some things you also need to know.
• Must be 21 years old when purchasing from a dealer
• Typically, if you can buy an handgun, you can buy a silencer
• Must not have been convicted of a felony or pleaded guilty to
domestic violence charge(s)
• Must be a United States Citizen

Z10ROD 12-19-2012 06:17 PM

dam there were a lot of really good ideas in this thread and fast too. but for some reason I don't think congress will be able to accomplish anything close to these ideas. at the very least i hope they make buying any firearm like gettting a cc license. education and background with a mental health exam. i'm crossing my fingers. It needs to have some balls Joe !!!!!

Ketzer 12-19-2012 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 452627)
Here's another thing I find "disturbing"... and every time I go to the range/gun shop -- there's a case full of these... I've always "questioned" (silently <pun> to myself) why would anyone need something like this? For what purpose? Ranges are noisy places -- we're already REQUIRED to wear eyes and ears... so it's certainly not to protect my ears from loud noises, is it.

YET --- We know why! TAXES!! For a $200 "Tax stamp" -- ordinary people can buy Silencers...


Can I own a silencer?

Silencers have never been illegal under federal law; they have only been regulated and taxed. This means that if your state doesn’t prohibit ownership of silencers, you can probably buy one. Here are some things you also need to know.
• Must be 21 years old when purchasing from a dealer
• Typically, if you can buy an handgun, you can buy a silencer
• Must not have been convicted of a felony or pleaded guilty to
domestic violence charge(s)
• Must be a United States Citizen

One thing missing from your list of musts; Patience
That $200 "stamp" (it really does look like an oversized postage stamp on your paperwork) takes on average about 10 months to get. Talk about a cooling off period! There are only a handful of processors and they are not rushing through anything. It is very much a "soup nazi" type ordeal. Am I complaining? NO. Class 3 or title 4 or whatever you want to call them, shouldn't be easy to get. (I won't digress into how easy that stuff can be had illegally :rolleyes: )

Jeff-

Vince@Meanstreets 12-19-2012 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 452617)
That's "safety glass" not security glass... that stuff was used so you didn't kick a ball through the glass accidentally and shatter it. Dude! How long has it been since you were in school??? :lol: The world is advancing we now have laminated glass... :woot:

LOL, I hope he didn't eat the paint chips too.

Something Greg was alluding to.... http://m.modbee.com/modesto/db_26252...tguid=ASYRd4gW

intocarss 12-20-2012 08:14 AM

HUGHSON, Calif. —Marine Sgt. Craig Pusley was on duty Wednesday. Desert camo fatigues, knees slightly bent, the young father stood a self-imposed watch at Hughson Elementary School.

One man. No rifle. No pay. No breaks.

"When I enlisted, I swore to defend this country from all enemies, foreign and domestic," said Pusley, 28. He served two tours in Iraq, in Baghdad and Ramadi, and one in the Helmand province of Afghanistan before leaving active duty.

"Schools are kind of against the rules over there," he said. Over there, he stood guard for 24-hour stretches with a "battle buddy." The pair spelled each other through short breaks for bare necessities.

He has no battle buddy in this small Central California town near Modesto, about 80 miles south of Sacramento. But after reading a Facebook post urging soldiers be posted at every school in the wake of last week's tragic shooting at an elementary school in Connecticut, he decided to take action on his own.

To the surprise of his very pregnant wife, Kristina, Pusley got up early Wednesday and dressed in uniform. He walked out of the house and around the corner to the kindergarten through third-grade school at 7:30 a.m.

"I was just praying and hoping the principal would say yes," he said.

Principal Laura Fong did. "I said, 'Absolutely!' In light of all that's happened, this is especially the time to make sure we help students and families feel safe," she said.

Kristina Pusley, expecting in two weeks' time, brought future Hughson Elementary kindergartner Canon, 3, to visit daddy midmorning. "I'm proud of him for it," she said.

From 7:30 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. Wednesday, Pusley stood his post, greeting kids as they arrived and saluting the flag with the kindergarten class of Annette Diliberto.

"I just want to have a word to this community that I stand between them and any danger," he said. Asked about his lack of firepower, Pusley said, "I don't need to be armed to do this. I don't have a fear in the world that if someone came here, I'd have the strength and the ability to protect them."

But by Wednesday night, he was facing a different type of threat.

By wearing those fatigues instead of a dress uniform in public, the Marine reservist said, he violated Marine Corps protocol and could face up to a $10,000 fine and five years in prison. Worst of all for a proud veteran and provider for a growing family, "dishonorable" could be stamped across his honorable discharge.

He said he was warned by phone by former Marine Jordan Pritchard, who stood a similar guard earlier this week at an elementary school in Nashville, Tenn. Pritchard was notified by the U.S. Marine Corps that he was the subject of a formal investigation, Pusley said.

"I made a mistake. I shouldn't have worn it. I apologize to my community, my nation and the Marine Corps," Pusley said, adding he's written a letter of apology to President Barack Obama as well.

He's a stay-at-home dad right now. The family is living on savings and his Reserve pay, enjoying being safe and together after his years away.

He will not be at Hughson Elementary on Thursday, he said. Besides fears for his future and his family, Pusley was clearly taken aback by the publicity and attention showered on him at the school.

Many Hughson residents drove by; many stopped to shake his hand. A television crew checked in. Facebook spread the word.

School receptionist Angelee Martin said she spent the morning leaking tears every time she looked out at him. "Everybody feels so safe with him there. He just impresses me so much," Martin said.

Parent Danielle Batteate said having a Marine on campus was wonderful. "Somebody, out of their own heart, is actually protecting our children," she said.

Other parents posted the news on Facebook, bringing well-wishers who offered the Marine cup after cup of coffee. But too much coffee would mean leaving his post before school let out, so a growing collection of cups sat cooling around the flag pole.
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Sieg 12-20-2012 08:24 AM

Thanks Jerry - Great story!

No comment regarding my gut feelings on the $10K tax threat imposed on him.


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