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Ron Sutton 04-05-2018 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Panteracer (Post 675866)
Ron,
Just noticing in the pictures that the anchor points for the upper and
actually lower a-arms are slotted. There seems to be a labeled washer
or insert that you can move the a-arm anchoring points up or down in
the slot. I assume this is a piece that holds the anchoring bolt to a
certain height... are there different height inserts or are you just sliding
the anchor bolt up and down??

I ask this because someone else doing a second gen was moving his lower anchor points up or down based on info you gave him by welding a washer
in at a certain height... seems like the race cars with slotted anchor points
let you adjust this with the slot or inserts.. kinda of a trick thing if I am
thinking right

Bob


Great question Bob!

On our Track-Warrior front clips ... all 4 versions ... the LCA & UCA brackets have slots for our slugs. When I designed each of these front suspensions, I made them so we can build them "semi-custom" for each customer, with different ride heights, frame widths, etc. I placed the slots in a location that allows me use precision slugs to optimize each semi-custom front frame & suspension.

The precision slugs are on page 188 of our catalog HERE. We have "0" slugs to put the LCA or UCA pivot in the center, and then offset slugs every 1/16" ... up to .250". This allows me to dial in the exact roll center, camber gain, anti-dive, etc I want on each front suspension.

When we're correcting the geometry in a factory frame or front clip, I don't use the slugs. It is so hard to get them right ... when we make changes ... I don't want the lower pivots to be adjusted or moved after I've nailed down where they go. So in these cases, I prefer & recommend we simply weld thick, hardened washers to the outsides of the LCA buckets ... in the correct location ... and call it good.



Panteracer 04-05-2018 02:14 PM

Weld Sutton Mustang
 
Thanks Ron
Now I am understanding some of the thought process

Bob

DBasher 04-13-2018 12:21 PM

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Just sayin....

Ron Sutton 04-13-2018 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 676203)
Just sayin....

Dan Basher = :stirthepot:
Me = :lmao:
The Lateral-G Gang :ohsnap:
Mike Tolle Welding the Headers up Today = :welder:
Rob Dickey = :popcorn2:
Greg Weld = :thumbsup:
Randy Chastain ... :whenitsdone: = :hapdance:
All of us on June 28th at Thunderhill = :cheers:

one-off customs 04-13-2018 05:12 PM

Weld, Sutton 70 bad-ass mustang
 
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Thought I would update some pics of the mustang, the backbone, trans mount and the header configuration on the pass side. Its TIGHT but Mike Tolle is doing an awesome job.[ATTACH]65414

DBasher 04-15-2018 10:47 AM

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What’s going on here? I understand the mount for the lift cylinder, what is the lil doodad next to it?

57hemicuda 04-15-2018 11:38 AM

I would guess that's a raceway for fuel/brake line and wiring that is snaked inside the perimeter chassis

Ron Sutton 04-16-2018 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 676261)
What’s going on here? I understand the mount for the lift cylinder, what is the lil doodad next to it?

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Originally Posted by 57hemicuda (Post 676262)
I would guess that's a raceway for fuel/brake line and wiring that is snaked inside the perimeter chassis


Ron is on the right track.

But we don't run wires or brake lines through it. We run the 2 #8 fuel lines (Supply & Return) as well as the #6 air line for the Air Jax. Running the fuel lines in the frame is simply better protection. We use 1-3/4" mandrel bent tubing at each end of the frame rail to curve the hoses up & in ... the way we want ... to make sure they stay away from dangerous stuff.

The wiring is ran under the floor in a 1" open space between the bracing structure & the belly pan. The brake lines use special Stainless AN #3 bulkhead fittings to also route through the front dog legs & rear 2x3 crossmember ... and into the 1" open space between the bracing structure & the belly pan.


DBasher 04-16-2018 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron Sutton (Post 676288)

Ron is on the right track.
We run the 2 #8 fuel lines (Supply & Return) as well as the #6 air line for the Air Jax. Running the fuel lines in the frame is simply better protection.


I was thinking it might be that but then thought, why would they run fuel lines so close to suspension and a big honkin tire? I’m sure it’ll be protected. :thumbsup:

How are the lines secured inside the rail? :headscratch::sieg:

Ron Sutton 04-16-2018 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 676307)
I was thinking it might be that but then thought, why would they run fuel lines so close to suspension and a big honkin tire? I’m sure it’ll be protected. :thumbsup:

How are the lines secured inside the rail? :headscratch::sieg:

The fuel lines are kept away from the tires.
The hoses are secured at each end of the tubes.

:cheers:


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